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- GoldenSound tested MQA by publishing an acoustic track embedded with hidden test signals to Tidal, discovering that the format is measurably lossy, adds high-frequency noise even during silent passages, and causes ultrasonic aliasing down into the audible band. (0:00)
- The glowing blue 'MQA Studio' provenance indicator does not guarantee studio origin or bit-perfection; standard 44.1 kHz CD masters trigger the light and upsample to 352.8 kHz, while forum tests showed up to 30% of bits can be truncated without turning the light off. (13:47)
- Tidal's HiFi tier delivers undecoded lossy MQA streams rather than true 16-bit/44.1 kHz FLAC on MQA-cataloged tracks, prompting artists like Neil Young to pull their music over unauthorized alterations of original masters. (12:38)
- Following early outreach with his findings, GoldenSound's tracks were pulled from Tidal by MQA and distributor access was cut, and MQA's technical rebuttal attributing added noise to omitted dither was refuted by tests showing identical degradation on dithered masters. (33:02)
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## Background Published on YouTube by GoldenSound on April 15, 2021, this video presents an empirical investigation into the claims and technical realities of MQA (Master Quality Authenticated). According to the description and show notes, it is a deep-dive review and measurement analysis exploring the problems and controversies surrounding the format, supported by an extensive list of community references and technical papers.
## TL;DR To test MQA's closed proprietary ecosystem, GoldenSound encoded and published original acoustic tracks containing hidden test signals directly onto Tidal and Deezer. Comparing the resulting streams against the untouched master files revealed that MQA is not lossless, introduces measurable high-frequency noise and non-linear filter ringing, and folds ultrasonic test signals down into the audible spectrum as aliased distortion. GoldenSound further demonstrates that the format often upsamples standard 44.1 kHz Red Book recordings into inflated 352.8 kHz outputs under an unverified 'MQA Studio' authentication light, effectively substituting true lossless FLAC on Tidal with an altered, lossy alternative. Addressing MQA's defensive corporate rebuttal and retaliatory takedowns, the analysis dismantles their arguments regarding dither, filter leakiness, and conversion profiling, urging audiophiles to reject proprietary lock-in in favor of open, verifiable high-resolution audio.
## Atmosphere & style The presentation carries the methodical, unflinching weight of a whistleblower pulling back the curtain on an industry-wide illusion. GoldenSound speaks with calm, articulate precision, avoiding hyperbolic rage in favor of measured scientific scrutiny, clinical oscilloscope charts, and direct spectrum analyses. The pacing conveys mounting incredulity as MQA's shifting marketing claims crumble under empirical testing, punctuated by dry, understated humor regarding corporate defensiveness. Watching the video feels like sitting through a rigorous forensic debriefing—equal parts revelatory, quietly defiant, and deeply validating for an audiophile audience long weary of proprietary obfuscation.
## Bulletin - [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=0s) GoldenSound tested MQA by publishing an acoustic track embedded with hidden test signals to Tidal, discovering that the format is measurably lossy, adds high-frequency noise even during silent passages, and causes ultrasonic aliasing down into the audible band. - [13:47](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=827s) The glowing blue 'MQA Studio' provenance indicator does not guarantee studio origin or bit-perfection; standard 44.1 kHz CD masters trigger the light and upsample to 352.8 kHz, while forum tests showed up to 30% of bits can be truncated without turning the light off. - [12:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=758s) Tidal's HiFi tier delivers undecoded lossy MQA streams rather than true 16-bit/44.1 kHz FLAC on MQA-cataloged tracks, prompting artists like Neil Young to pull their music over unauthorized alterations of original masters. - [33:02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1982s) Following early outreach with his findings, GoldenSound's tracks were pulled from Tidal by MQA and distributor access was cut, and MQA's technical rebuttal attributing added noise to omitted dither was refuted by tests showing identical degradation on dithered masters.
## Key takeaways - [03:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=225s) MQA restricts full unfolding strictly to DACs with analog outputs, preventing independent researchers from capturing a clean digital stream to verify bit-perfection against studio masters. - [05:47](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=347s) Automated ingestion filters initially rejected pure test tones, requiring GoldenSound to embed sweeps, impulses, and white noise into a legitimate acoustic piece to bypass MQA's gatekeeping. - [06:57](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=417s) While Deezer delivered a 100% bit-perfect FLAC match of the original 44.1 kHz master, Tidal's MQA encode suffered from altered waveforms, overshooting transients, and elevated noise. - [08:49](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=529s) DeltaWave null tests on commercial tracks and synthetic masters show that MQA adds background noise across the runtime and alters audible-band frequencies. - [11:11](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=671s) Dynamic range testing using a -60 dBFS tone demonstrated high-frequency noise rising roughly 45 dB below signal level on 44.1 kHz encodes and 20 dB above the test signal on 88.2 kHz-derived files. - [11:11](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=671s) Standard 44.1 kHz master files authenticate as 'MQA Studio' and upsample to 352.8 kHz without recovering any real ultrasonic content, merely applying internal upsampling filters with added noise. - [12:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=758s) MQA encoding increased file size from 30 MB to 33 MB on a 44.1 kHz master, disproving claims that the format conserves streaming bandwidth compared to standard FLAC. - [13:47](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=827s) MQA employs an intentionally leaky reconstruction filter that generates mirror images and ultrasonic reflections back into the frequency spectrum above Nyquist. - [16:53](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1013s) Undecoded MQA playback folds genuine ultrasonic tones (such as 35 kHz and 40 kHz) down into the audible spectrum at 9.1 kHz and 4.1 kHz with minimal attenuation. - [18:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1087s) MQA's claim that folded ultrasonic data is safely buried below -120 dB is disproven by measurements showing leakage artifacts resting as high as -60 dB, rendering them audible. - [24:23](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1463s) Modern broadband makes proprietary audio compression unnecessary, as native 24-bit/192 kHz lossless FLAC requires less than 5 Mbps—well below 4K video streaming demands. - [27:29](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1649s) iFi's proprietary GTO filter exhibits frequency response curves, leaky roll-off, and ultrasonic imaging identical to MQA unfolding because it was developed with MQA's direct assistance. - [28:57](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1737s) MQA's claim of end-to-end ADC and DAC hardware correction is contradicted by indie ingestion workflows, which collect no data regarding the converters or hardware used. - [35:50](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=2150s) An audience survey revealed widespread consumer confusion, with two-thirds of pro-MQA respondents mistakenly believing MQA matches or outperforms native 24-bit/192 kHz FLAC.
## Detailed walkthrough ### [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=0s) The MQA Experiment and the Backlash
GoldenSound introduces his comprehensive investigation into MQA's marketing claims by explaining a unique experiment: he published his own music on Tidal in MQA format to bypass the lack of public testing tools. In an effort to act in good faith, he reached out to MQA prior to releasing this video to present his findings and give them an opportunity to respond or suggest alternative testing. Instead of a constructive dialogue, his music was swiftly removed from Tidal the very next day, and MQA contacted his publisher to block him and remove all of his content.
GoldenSound reflects on this defensive reaction, noting that “...for a company with nothing to hide they are sure very keen on keeping information like what i'm about to show quiet.” He emphasizes that this video is not an attack on the many excellent hardware manufacturers who have integrated MQA into their products, nor is it meant to dismiss subjective listening preferences. Rather, it is an objective, evidence-based analysis of MQA's specific technical claims. Through his testing, he promises to prove that MQA is not lossless, adds unwanted noise and distortion even in silent portions of tracks, is rarely sourced from true high-resolution masters, and that the "MQA Studio" blue light does not actually authenticate anything.
- **Core Claims to be Proven:** - MQA is not lossless. - MQA adds unwanted noise and distortion, even during silent passages. - MQA is usually not sourced from a high-resolution master. - The "MQA Studio" blue light does not authenticate the file's integrity or origin.
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[03:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=225s) What is MQA and Why is it So Hard to Test?
MQA is marketed as a proprietary music encoding format that promises to deliver the absolute best listening experience by unlocking "every detail of the original master recording." The core marketing claim is that MQA takes high-resolution studio recordings and "folds" the high-frequency information beneath the noise floor of a standard 44.1 kHz file. This file can theoretically be played back on standard, non-MQA DACs as a normal CD-quality track, or it can be "unfolded" back to high resolution. The first unfold is typically performed in software (such as the Tidal app) to output 88.2 kHz or 96 kHz, while subsequent unfolds are handled by hardware renderers or full decoders to reveal the "original" studio resolution.
The primary issue for independent researchers is that MQA is entirely proprietary and closed-source, making it exceptionally difficult to test. Unlike open formats like FLAC, MP3, or DSD, users cannot encode their own files to see how the encoder behaves. Furthermore, MQA licensing rules strictly prohibit any device with a digital output from performing a full MQA unfold. The full unfolding process is restricted entirely to DACs with analog outputs, preventing users from capturing a clean digital stream of the unfolded file to compare it bit-for-bit against the original high-resolution master. GoldenSound explains, “It is only in dax with an analog output meaning it's impossible to test if unfolded mqa really is the same as native hi-res because we cannot get a true digital unfold and check it against the original.”
```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: Test File Creation and Distribution Flow accDescr: Flowchart showing how GoldenSound created test files disguised as an acoustic track and distributed them to Deezer and Tidal to compare MQA against native FLAC.
A["Original Master (Acoustic Track + Hidden Test Signals)"] --> B["44.1 kHz Version"] A --> C["88.2 kHz 'Deluxe' Version (with 35/40 kHz tones)"]
B --> D["Deezer (Native FLAC)"] B --> E["Tidal (MQA Encoded)"]
C --> F["Deezer (Downsampled to 44.1 kHz)"] C --> G["Tidal (MQA Encoded & Unfolded)"]
D --> H["Result: 100% Bit-Perfect"] E --> I["Result: Overshooting Transients & Added Noise"] F --> J["Result: Clean Downsample, No Added Noise"] G --> K["Result: High-Frequency Noise & Aliasing"] ```
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[05:47](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=347s) Sneaking Test Signals Past the MQA Gatekeepers
To overcome these testing limitations, GoldenSound decided to publish his own music so he would possess both the exact original master files and the final MQA-encoded distribution files. However, MQA has implemented strict gatekeeping measures to prevent analysis. When he first attempted to submit standard test signals—such as a simple 1 kHz sine wave or an impulse response test—the publisher informed him that the MQA encoder was "unable to encode" the files.
GoldenSound remarks on this convenient limitation: “When i first attempted to do this i was told by the publisher that the mqa encoder was unable to encode the file how convenient...” To bypass these automated checks, he composed a legitimate acoustic track and hid a comprehensive suite of test signals inside it. This included an impulse response, white noise, a square wave, a 32-tone test, and a complete RightMark Audio Analyzer (RMAA) test sequence. He published a standard 44.1 kHz version and an 88.2 kHz "deluxe" version. The deluxe version contained additional hidden high-frequency test tones at 35 kHz and 40 kHz, alongside full-range frequency sweeps from 20 Hz to 44 kHz, allowing him to verify if MQA truly preserves high-resolution data after unfolding.
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[06:57](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=417s) Analyzing the 44.1 kHz and 88.2 kHz MQA Files
The test results revealed significant differences between the original masters and the MQA-encoded files. When comparing the 44.1 kHz master against the file delivered by Deezer, the FLAC file was 100% bit-perfect. However, the Tidal MQA version was heavily altered by the encoding process. GoldenSound notes, “Immediately the waveform looks different transients are overshooting giving the impression of it being louder at some points and there is more high frequency noise compared to the original even in what should have been silent portions of the track.”
The impulse response test on the MQA file revealed a minimum-phase ringing pattern that did not decay linearly. While minimum-phase filters avoid pre-ringing (which can make transients sound "snappier"), they introduce phase distortion because different frequencies travel through the filter at different speeds. This phase shift can negatively impact musical elements like timbre, which rely on multiple frequencies aligning perfectly in time. Unfolding the file only exacerbated these anomalies. The only way GoldenSound could correct the transient behavior was by running the track through HQPlayer's "poly-sinc-mqa" filter, which is specifically designed to clean up MQA-induced noise and filter errors.
The 88.2 kHz "deluxe" MQA track on Tidal fared even worse. While the Deezer version was cleanly downsampled to 44.1 kHz with no added noise, the Tidal MQA version exhibited high-frequency noise throughout the track—even during passages of absolute silence. Most concerningly, high-frequency content that originally existed above 22 kHz was not preserved cleanly; instead, it was aliased and reflected back down into the audible frequency band as distortion.
- **Key Findings from File Analysis:** - **Deezer FLAC:** 100% bit-perfect match to the original master. - **Tidal MQA (44.1 kHz):** Altered waveform, overshooting transients, and elevated high-frequency noise in silent sections. - **Filter Behavior:** Minimum-phase filter with non-linear decay, causing phase shifts and group delay. - **Tidal MQA (88.2 kHz):** Significant high-frequency noise and severe aliasing/imaging of ultrasonic content back into the audible band.
[08:49](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=529s) The Noise Mystery and Comparing Real-World Masters
GoldenSound notes that MQA encodes are not lossless regardless of original sample rate, and playing them without an MQA DAC or software unfolding creates real playback issues compared to streaming the pure lossless FLAC. Analyzing his test file, he developed a hunch: the elevated high-frequency noise floor centered around 25 kHz seemed proportional to the amount of ultrasonic content MQA was forced to reconstruct. Because his original 88.2 kHz master contained full-range white noise, it pushed that reconstruction mechanism hard. To confirm the hypothesis, he prepared an alternate 88.2 kHz master with the white noise omitted and ultrasonic energy drastically rolled off. Unfortunately, before that revised master went live, MQA intervened and had his tracks pulled from TIDAL entirely, cutting short direct live confirmation.
```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: Ultrasonic Noise Hypothesis Workflow accDescr: Flowchart contrasting test tracks with and without ultrasonic content to explain noise generation in MQA.
subgraph GoldenSoundTrack["GoldenSound Test Master"] A["88.2 kHz Master (Full White Noise)"] --> B["MQA 44.1 kHz Encode"] B --> C["Heavy 25 kHz Noise Band Across Whole Track"] end
subgraph SamSmithTrack["Commercial Comparison Master"] D["SamSmith Master (No Content >22 kHz)"] --> E["MQA 44.1 kHz Encode"] E --> F["Clean High End (No 25 kHz Noise Band)"] end
C -.->|"Supports Hypothesis"| G["Noise added is proportional to ultrasonic content reconstructed"] F -.->|"Supports Hypothesis"| G ```
He found circumstantial proof by comparing a commercial release that existed both as a native 88.2 kHz file and an MQA file sourced from that same 88.2 kHz master: Sam Smith's track "Too Good at Goodbyes." Examining the native 88.2 kHz file revealed that it actually contained zero musical content above 22 kHz. Consequently, the 44.1 kHz MQA release showed none of the elevated 25 kHz noise band seen in GoldenSound's heavy-ultrasonic test file. Running DeltaWave software comparisons between the native and MQA versions of the Sam Smith track confirmed this behavior: while high-frequency noise was still added by MQA, a strange band of difference or distortion ran through the entire track well within the audible spectrum—an artifact absent from GoldenSound's synthetic files. As GoldenSound sums up the fundamental problem: “MQA or any method aimed at high fidelity shouldn't be adding noise.”
- MQA files played back without decoding add background noise that is absent in native lossless streaming. - Files with natural bandwidth roll-offs around 22 kHz create far less ultrasonic noise than tracks with rich high-frequency spectra extending up to 44 kHz. - DeltaWave null testing of real-world commercial releases exposes audible-band differences and alterations introduced by the MQA process across the entire runtime.
[11:11](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=671s) Low-Level Linearity, Dynamic Range Loss, and Upsampling 44.1 kHz Tracks
Analyzing low-level performance reveals significant signal degradation across both 44.1 kHz and 88.2 kHz MQA encodes. GoldenSound included a standard dynamic range test signal: a 1 kHz sine wave at -60 dBFS. On the original unencoded master, dynamic range was pristine, limited only by the FFT gain of the measurement analyzer. In the 44.1 kHz MQA file, high-frequency noise appeared roughly 45 dB below the signal level, accompanied by broadband noise across the entire spectrum sitting about 65 dB below the tone. In the MQA file generated from the 88.2 kHz master, this high-frequency noise rose to roughly 20 dB *above* the -60 dB test signal.
```mermaid flowchart LR accTitle: 44.1 kHz Master Upsampling Chain accDescr: Flow diagram showing how a standard 44.1 kHz file is labeled MQA Studio and upsampled to 352.8 kHz.
A["Original Master: 44.1 kHz / 16-24 bit"] --> B["TIDAL Ingestion"] B --> C["Authenticated as 'MQA Studio'"] C --> D["DAC Unfolding / Rendering"] D --> E["Output Display: 352.8 kHz Sample Rate"] E -.-> F["No extra data retrieved: pure upsampling with added noise"] ```
Investigating the unfolding process yields even more troubling discrepancies. When playing GoldenSound's standard 44.1 kHz test track, the hardware DAC authenticated it as "MQA Studio" and unfolded it to a massive 352.8 kHz sample rate. Because the source file was never a high-resolution recording, no ultrasonic information existed to unfold; the DAC simply applied an internal upsampling filter. TIDAL offers no interface indicator to tell consumers whether an MQA file contains genuine high-resolution material or represents an upsampled standard-resolution master. When GoldenSound asks why any listener would accept this, he points out the obvious absurdity: “And if it is a 44.1 kilohertz original, why would you want the MQA version when all it's doing is adding noise and other unwanted effects compared to playing lossless?”
- The -60 dBFS 1 kHz test tone revealed high-frequency noise sitting 45 dB below the signal level on 44.1 kHz encodes, and 20 dB *above* the signal level on 88.2 kHz-derived encodes. - A standard 44.1 kHz master file triggers full "MQA Studio" authentication, upsampling all the way to 352.8 kHz despite containing zero ultrasonic content. - Consumers cannot differentiate between an upsampled Red Book release and a genuine high-res master within the TIDAL interface.
[12:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=758s) TIDAL's Forced MQA Delivery and Neil Young's Defection
Examining stream delivery directly in the TIDAL desktop application exposed a major bait-and-switch for subscribers paying for uncompressed audio. Selecting the "HiFi" quality tier instead of "Master" did not serve the original lossless CD-quality FLAC; TIDAL merely streamed the lossy, bit-mangled MQA file without running the unfolding code. GoldenSound argues that paying customers are being deceived, declaring that if lossless streaming is eliminated on titles labeled "Master," users should cancel their accounts immediately: “Even if MQA is a benefit in some cases, it should be a choice; it should not be mandatory. Speak with your wallet and demand lossless.” Furthermore, MQA fails to fulfill its primary pitch of bandwidth savings: GoldenSound's 44.1 kHz original master was 30 megabytes, while the resulting MQA file swelled to 33 megabytes.
This practice provoked industry pushback from prominent recording artists, most notably Neil Young, who removed his catalog from TIDAL after discovering the platform converted his 44.1 kHz recordings into MQA "Master" tracks without consent. GoldenSound quotes Young's scathing assessment of TIDAL's format conversion directly: “In his own words: 'TIDAL's master is a degradation of the original to make it fit in a box that collects royalties. That money is ultimately paid by the listeners. I am not behind it. I am out of there, gone. My masters are the original.'”
- Selecting "HiFi" on an MQA-encoded album on TIDAL delivers an undecoded MQA stream rather than a bit-perfect 16-bit / 44.1 kHz lossless FLAC. - File size increased from 30 MB (original FLAC) to 33 MB (MQA encode), contradicting marketing claims of efficient bandwidth compression. - Neil Young pulled his entire catalog from TIDAL to protest the unauthorized alteration and monetization of his CD-quality masters.
[13:47](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=827s) The Illusory Blue Light and Leaky Filter Artifacts
The MQA "Studio" provenance indicator (the glowing blue light on certified DACs) provides zero guarantee of audio integrity or bit accuracy. GoldenSound highlights tests by user FrederikV on the Audiophile Style forums, who demonstrated that up to 30 percent of the bits in an MQA file could be completely truncated without extinguishing the blue light. GoldenSound's own 44.1 kHz file triggered the same authentication indicator despite having its master data altered and degraded by MQA's pipeline. Summarizing the indicator's real value, GoldenSound states plainly: “This track has been altered, and so I, the artist, am telling you this is not the version that would have been created or heard in the studio, nor is it truly high resolution. This blue light is MQA's marketing, nothing more.”
```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: MQA Leaky Reconstruction Filter Imaging accDescr: Diagram demonstrating how MQA leaky filtering creates ultrasonic mirror images and time-domain distortion.
subgraph SoftwareUnfold["First Unfold (TIDAL / Roon)"] A["MQA 44.1 kHz Source"] --> B["Upsampled to 88.2 kHz"] B --> C["Leaky Reconstruction Filter"] C --> D["Upward Mirror Images of Audible Content"] end
subgraph TimeDomainIssues["Impulse & Waveform Degradation"] D --> E["Square Wave Notch Distortion"] D --> F["Excessive Overshoot & Non-Linear Pre/Post Ringing"] end ```
When software like TIDAL or Roon unfolds that 44.1 kHz master to 88.2 kHz, spectrum analysis shows mirrored frequency reflections bouncing back into the ultrasonic band above 22.05 kHz. This imaging artifact is directly caused by MQA's unusually slow, "leaky" upsampling filter, an architectural flaw detailed by blogger Archimago and presented by Chris Connaker at the 2018 Rocky Mountain Audio Fest (RMAF). At that talk, MQA representatives in attendance offered no technical explanations for the leakiness, choosing instead to repeatedly interrupt Connaker, demand to know Archimago's real identity, and deflect by insisting he ask dCS why they support the format. Using the white noise section of his test track, GoldenSound mapped MQA's unfolding filter curve against HQPlayer's sinc-L filter (a pristine 2-million-tap reference similar to the Chord Electronics M Scaler). MQA's filter exhibited atrocious ultrasonic attenuation and odd frequency irregularities. In the time domain, reconstructed square waves suffered from severe overshoot, non-linear ringing, and unnatural notches at each transition point. Performing a full hardware decode only multiplied these upward images, extending the notched distortion further down the waveform.
- Forum member FrederikV proved MQA files retain hardware authentication even after truncating over 30% of their data bits. - MQA's upsampling filter is intentionally leaky, creating mirror images of musical content above the Nyquist cutoff (22.05 kHz). - MQA representatives at RMAF 2018 disrupted Chris Connaker's presentation rather than addressing the filter's measurable imaging artifacts. - Synthetic square-wave tests reveal aggressive waveform overshoot, non-linear ringing, and notch artifacts introduced during unfolding.
[16:53](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1013s) Ultrasonic Aliasing in Hi-Res Master Files
To evaluate how genuine high-resolution material behaves under MQA encoding, GoldenSound embedded 35 kHz and 40 kHz sine tones, along with RightMark Audio Analyzer (RMAA) IMD tests and frequency sweeps extending to 44 kHz, inside his original 88.2 kHz master. Because a standard 44.1 kHz container has a Nyquist limit of 22.05 kHz, these tones cannot exist natively within that sample rate. Examining the undecoded 44.1 kHz MQA file revealed severe aliasing: instead of safely stowing the tones away or filtering them out, the encoder folded the 35 kHz and 40 kHz tones back down into the audible band at 9.1 kHz and 4.1 kHz, respectively.
| Test Signal (Original 88.2 kHz Master) | State in Undecoded MQA (44.1 kHz) | State After First Unfold (88.2 kHz) | |:--- |:--- |:--- | | **35 kHz Sine Wave** | Aliased down to **9.1 kHz** in audible spectrum | Restored to 35 kHz | | **40 kHz Sine Wave** | Aliased down to **4.1 kHz** in audible spectrum | Restored to 40 kHz | | **RMAA Sweep (up to 44 kHz)** | Reflected back down below 22 kHz into audible band | Inverted sweep restored to original frequency path | | **Ultrasonic Noise Floor** | Broadband noise modulation | Dense noise band centered around 25 kHz remains |
These aliased tones sat well above the baseline noise floor with minimal attenuation, meaning any listener playing MQA tracks on standard non-MQA DACs will hear loud aliased distortion inside the audible band. The continuous RMAA sweeps similarly hit the 22.05 kHz ceiling and bounced backward down through the audible spectrum. When GoldenSound enabled the first unfold, the 35 kHz and 40 kHz sine tones shifted back to their proper ultrasonic positions, and the sweeping tones unfolded back toward 44 kHz. While this confirmed MQA does restore some high-frequency content as advertised, the decoded signal remained heavily degraded by a massive band of noise centered around 25 kHz.
- Ultrasonic sine waves at 35 kHz and 40 kHz alias directly down to 9.1 kHz and 4.1 kHz in the audible band when played without MQA decoding. - RMAA test sweeps bouncing off the 22.05 kHz Nyquist barrier generate audible down-sweeps on standard DAC playback equipment. - First unfolding successfully restores ultrasonic frequencies to their proper positions, but leaves an elevated band of noise centered near 25 kHz.
[18:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1087s) Debunking MQA's Folding Claims and Dynamic Range Loss
Analyzing the decoded output reveals that the unfolding process leaves severe artifacts lingering across the lower frequencies, pushing the effective noise floor all the way up to roughly -60 dB. This directly contradicts the core technical marketing published on Bob Stuart's *Bob Talks* blog, which asserts that folded high-frequency content is tucked safely into the dynamic range window below -120 dB where it would remain completely inaudible. GoldenSound's test file demonstrates that this assertion is demonstrably false: the content was barely attenuated at all, meaning higher-level musical signals folded into this space would be undeniably audible. To verify this beyond the graphs, GoldenSound conducted a simple listening check and was able to hear the folded test tones playing out loud quite clearly.
```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: Comparison of Claimed vs Actual MQA Folding accDescr: Diagram contrasting MQA marketing claims of burying folded content below minus 120 dB against test measurements revealing audible leakage at minus 60 dB.
subgraph MQA_Claim["MQA Marketing Claim"] direction TB C1["Ultrasonic Content Folded"] --> C2["Buried Below -120 dB"] C2 --> C3["Completely Inaudible"] end
subgraph Actual_Result["Measured Reality"] direction TB R1["Ultrasonic Content Folded"] --> R2["Attenuated Only to ~ -60 dB Noise Floor"] R2 --> R3["Clearly Audible Artifacts in Low Frequencies"] end ```
The consequence is a severe degradation of dynamic range across both the audible and ultrasonic spectra whenever MQA unfolds high-frequency material. Performing a full hardware decode fails to resolve the issue; instead, it repeatedly mirrors and reflects the file's spectral content upward throughout the ultrasonic band. In evaluating whether MQA successfully reconstructs ultrasonic information, GoldenSound concludes that while it technically returns high frequencies, it does so at the cost of heavily compromised accuracy, poor dynamic range, persistent ultrasonic noise, and audible-band distortion left in the wake of the unfolding process. As GoldenSound summarizes the stark divergence between marketing and measurement: “It does not by any stretch retain 100% of the original recording, and this claim is false.”
- MQA's *Bob Talks* blog claims folded audio rests below -120 dB, but test measurements demonstrated artifacts sitting around -60 dB. - High-frequency test tones folded into the audible band were loud enough to be heard directly by ear. - The 44.1 kHz base files suffer from substantial aliasing reflected down into the audible range at high levels. - Full decoding creates repeated upward reflections into the ultrasonic spectrum rather than clean reconstruction.
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[19:54](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1194s) Quickfire Technical Summary of MQA's Flaws
To distill the technical findings, GoldenSound presents a rapid-fire rundown of the established evidence. First and foremost, MQA is provably lossy whether played back in its folded stock form or through an unfolding DAC. Furthermore, a substantial portion of the MQA catalogue on Tidal consists merely of upsampled standard-resolution files rather than true high-resolution masters. When an MQA file contains genuine high-frequency content, it aliases those frequencies downward into the audible range with minimal attenuation. When unfolded, the decoder restores the upper frequencies and removes the majority of the downward aliasing, but leaves behind severe background noise and spurious harmonic artifacts.
```mermaid flowchart LR accTitle: MQA Signal Processing Workflow and Identified Faults accDescr: Pipeline showing original masters entering MQA encoding, revealing upsampling, aliasing leakage, and leftover distortion after decoding.
subgraph Encoding["Tidal Ingestion & Encoding"] Master["Original Track<br>(Often 44.1 kHz 16-bit)"] --> Upsample["Hidden Upsampling<br>to MQA Container"] end
subgraph BasePlayback["Folded Base File Playback"] Upsample --> Folded["High-Frequency Aliasing<br>Leaked into Audible Band"] end
subgraph DecodedPlayback["Decoder Hardware / Software"] Folded --> Decoded["Unfolded Output:<br>Restores Highs, Leaves -60 dB Noise & Distortion"] end ```
Equally troubling is the impact on streaming platforms: Tidal no longer delivers genuine lossless audio for tracks flagged as "Master." Listeners are restricted either to lossy MQA or compressed streams, completely locking out native bit-perfect FLAC. GoldenSound points out that listeners seeking bit-perfect lossless must turn to rival services like Qobuz or Deezer. The vaunted "authentication" blue light provides zero verification of the original source's sample rate, file integrity, or fidelity to the studio session. However, Roon users can uncover the truth: looking at the final sample rate listed in the track description exposes the actual source sample rate of the master file, revealing how many tracks are merely 44.1 kHz recordings disguised as high-res. Finally, like-for-like file size comparisons demonstrate that MQA has no bandwidth advantage over a standard 44.1 kHz FLAC (MQA is actually larger), though it remains smaller than an uncompressed 24-bit/192 kHz FLAC.
| MQA Feature / Claim | Reality Measured by GoldenSound | |:--- |:--- | | **Lossless Quality** | Measurably lossy in both folded and fully unfolded states | | **High-Res Heritage** | Many releases are simply upsampled 44.1 kHz masters | | **Blue Light / Authentication** | Guarantees neither file integrity nor original studio provenance | | **Bandwidth Efficiency** | Larger file size than a standard 44.1 kHz FLAC file | | **Tidal HiFi Master Tier** | Strips out true bit-perfect FLAC whenever an MQA version exists |
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[21:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1278s) Transparency vs. Obfuscation: Rob Watts, DSD, and the Snake Oil Divide
Stepping back from pure data analysis, GoldenSound offers personal commentary as an audiophile passionate about gear and legitimate technical innovation. The audio industry has always hosted its fair share of snake oil, but products traditionally split into two camps: those whose claims can be tested and independently verified by third parties, and those that deliberately avoid scrutiny. Designers like Rob Watts of Chord Electronics openly champion bespoke designs, such as the WTA (Watts Transient Aligned) filter, claiming it represents the ideal method for 44.1 kHz audio playback. While one may agree or disagree with Watts's conclusions, his philosophy allows open evaluation: any user with a Chord DAC or M Scaler can run test signals through the hardware, analyze the output, and engage with Watts directly on forums like Head-Fi where he explains his engineering rationale in public.
A similar transparency defines formats like DSD, which is an open ecosystem where anyone can encode, decode, test, and critique the technology. Even audiophile cables—frequently ridiculed as pure snake oil—can be tested for empirical differences; GoldenSound notes that measuring a generic BNC cable against an AudioQuest Carbon BNC revealed measurable jitter differences. Whether those variations justify the cost or are audible is up for debate, but the crucial factor is testability. MQA, by contrast, operates on complete obfuscation. The company neither publishes rigorous proof of its claims nor permits the public to test its ecosystem, forbidding consumer-level encoding tools and locking down the digital output of full decoders. “It just operates on a ‘trust us, it's better’ approach,” GoldenSound notes, while its marketing claims remain elusive and continually shift whenever third-party engineers poke holes in the narrative.
- Rob Watts (Chord Electronics) openly discusses filter design on forums like Head-Fi and permits users to measure hardware like the Hugo DAC and M Scaler. - DSD remains an open format accessible to any engineer or hobbyist wishing to evaluate its strengths and weaknesses. - Independent jitter measurements proved an AudioQuest Carbon BNC cable measurably outperformed a generic BNC, highlighting that real physical claims can always be tested. - MQA prohibits user encoding, locks downstream digital decoders to block digital capture, and offers marketing claims that shift once disproved. - While MQA's custom "white glove" analog-to-digital correction work is fascinating (as documented in their "Fairy Tales" article), it represents bespoke remastering, not the reality of the mass automated encoding applied across Tidal. - Stuart’s theoretical folding model falls apart on 16-bit files, which lack the dynamic range required to bury folded ultrasonic data inaudibly.
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[24:23](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1463s) Monopolies, Bandwidth Realities, and Industry Pushback
GoldenSound emphasizes that even if MQA were mathematically flawless and completely lossless, it should never be permitted to become an inescapable monopoly. Consumers must retain the freedom to select native, uncompressed high-resolution PCM over proprietary alternatives. The argument that MQA is essential to conserve bandwidth in the modern era is completely obsolete: an uncompressed 24-bit/192 kHz stream requires under 5 megabits per second. Any household capable of streaming 4K video on YouTube or Netflix possesses more than enough internet speed to handle native high-resolution audio without compression. Instead, consumers are being forced into a closed ecosystem where MQA replaces native masters, leaving listeners with a lossy approximation as their only avenue to high-resolution content.
Manufacturers are not embracing MQA out of an organic belief in its sonic superiority, but because widespread consumer demand leaves them with little choice. High-end manufacturers like Linn have publicly opposed the format, while PS Audio's Paul McGowan has openly discussed their reluctance. McGowan confirmed that PS Audio integrated MQA compatibility solely because the market demanded it, stating candidly that he still dislikes the technology. Hardware vendors face the grim reality that failing to pay MQA licensing fees risks losing retail sales. GoldenSound calls on audiophiles to reject the format, refuse to pay the hardware licensing premiums baked into equipment costs, cancel subscriptions to platforms that replace lossless archives with MQA, and demand total transparency from manufacturers. GoldenSound delivers a clear warning: “If a company can't provide its own evidence and goes to great lengths to prevent anyone else from testing it, that should probably raise quite a few red flags.”
- A native 24-bit/192 kHz FLAC stream requires under 5 Mbps of bandwidth, well within the capability of standard modern broadband. - High-end audio companies such as Linn have published scathing critiques of MQA's proprietary model. - Paul McGowan of PS Audio acknowledged that MQA was added to PS Audio products strictly under market pressure, not engineering preference. - Hardware manufacturers are pressured to license MQA to avoid losing sales, passing the royalty costs directly to consumers. - As a closing technical recommendation, GoldenSound notes that if one must interact with MQA files, performing the first unfold in software is far preferable to running the hardware's subsequent unfolding filters.
[27:29](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1649s) DAC Filter Recommendations and the iFi GTO Filter Discovery
GoldenSound advises listeners on the optimal playback chain: perform the initial decode and then upsample or oversample using the DAC's internal digital filter rather than engaging any downstream MQA rendering. Doing so eliminates most audible-band aliasing while suppressing unwanted ultrasonic images and noise.
While testing, GoldenSound used the iFi micro iDSD Diablo, a full MQA decoder described as a fantastic product. However, evaluating the unit revealed a striking technical detail regarding iFi's proprietary GTO (Gibbs Transient Optimized) filter: its measured frequency response curve is virtually indistinguishable from an MQA renderer filter. Testing showed that the GTO filter displays the exact same "leaky" roll-off characteristics and generates ultrasonic imaging identical to MQA unfolding. Because it is a minimum-phase filter, phase-dependent sonic attributes like instrumental timbre can suffer. Reverting to iFi's firmware version 7.0 and selecting the standard stock filter resolved these issues entirely. The similarity proved unsurprising upon reviewing iFi's technical paper, which acknowledged that the GTO filter was developed with direct assistance from MQA. While GoldenSound maintains that hardware supporting MQA is not inherently bad, consumers should voice their reluctance to pay licensing premiums for features they do not want.
```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: Recommended MQA DAC Decoding Flow vs GTO Filter Issues accDescr: Flowchart contrasting standard DAC upsampling against MQA rendering and iFi GTO leaky filtering.
subgraph PreferredPlayback["Recommended Signal Path"] A["MQA Core Decode"] --> B["Standard DAC Internal Upsampling"] B --> C["Suppressed Aliasing, Reduced Imaging & Lower Noise"] end
subgraph MQAandGTO["MQA Rendering / iFi GTO Filter"] D["MQA Render / iFi GTO Filter"] --> E["Slow Leaky Minimum-Phase Roll-Off"] E --> F["Ultrasonic Imaging & Degraded Phase/Timbre"] end ```
- GoldenSound urges consumers to tell equipment manufacturers: “Tell manufacturers you don't want to pay extra for it.” - iFi firmware 7.0 with the stock filter avoids the leaky minimum-phase imaging observed in the GTO filter. - The iFi GTO filter design paper explicitly notes development assistance from MQA.
[28:57](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1737s) MQA's Defense: Production Chain Assumptions and Lack of Transparency
Before the video went live, MQA provided a formal response. MQA opened by claiming their format is substantially more advanced than traditional digital audio because it compensates for ADC and DAC conversion processes across the full hardware chain. GoldenSound dismantles this claim: when submitting tracks via MQA's recommended publishing pipeline for independent artists, the encoder never requested any information regarding the production equipment, converters, or monitoring hardware used. Furthermore, modern recordings rarely feature an all-analog signal digitized through a single ADC model; they routinely blend multiple converters, synthesizers, sample libraries, and in-production digital processing steps within a single project.
GoldenSound addresses MQA's dismissive reaction to third-party testing: > “When someone like Chris Connaker provides evidence the question gets dodged and you try to change the subject.”
The absence of open analysis tools stands in direct contrast to virtually every standard audio format. Users can play MQA files but have no means of inspecting how masters were manipulated, validating claims against placebo, or verifying test signals without laborious workarounds. Rather than providing technical clarity, MQA responded to direct inquiries by having the author's tracks purged from publishing platforms.
- MQA claims end-to-end hardware profiling, but indie upload workflows collect zero converter or hardware metadata. - Contemporary music production uses diverse ADC models, plugins, and synthesized sources, making global ADC compensation impossible. - Independent verification is blocked by a closed ecosystem that lacks objective evaluation tools.
[30:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1842s) Encoder Limitations, Studio Tool Obscurity, and File Authentication
MQA argued in their statement that their indie encoder is not engineered to handle content where statistical audio profiles shift mid-track or where material deviates from "natural" acoustic sound. GoldenSound points out the absurd practical consequence: if synthetic textures break the encoder, vast swathes of modern genres—from electronic music to hybrid pop—are unsupported. Notably, eight out of the top ten streamed tracks on TIDAL are predominantly digital or synthesized productions, yet they are served as MQA.
While MQA points to proprietary "studio tools" that purportedly solve these issues, their existence remains entirely opaque: the public does not know what they do, who holds licenses, which commercial releases utilized them, or how they perform under scrutiny. GoldenSound suggests MQA adopt an evaluation model similar to Signalyst's HQPlayer, which lets users test its professional engine by restricting playback to 60-second intervals (or even 10 seconds for MQA) without causing commercial harm.
GoldenSound also rejects MQA's assertion that the artist or label bears sole responsibility for confirming the sound on TIDAL to validate the blue MQA authentication indicator. The encoder never communicated this policy, nor does official marketing explain that an MQA file can have a third of its data discarded while still illuminating the authentication light. Even the test file submitted at standard 44.1 kHz sounded different and measured differently from the uncompressed master, contradicting claims of lossless delivery.
- Current TIDAL top-ten metrics show that non-acoustic, synthetic music dominates the platform's MQA catalog despite MQA's caveats. - GoldenSound questions MQA's definitions: “Saying that MQA is lossless but only within vague unspecified criteria and lossless only using non-conventional evaluation methods isn't exactly reassuring.” - If an encoding algorithm changes its behavior based on musical content, it is adaptive DSP rather than bit-perfect lossless transmission.
[33:02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1982s) Debunking MQA's Excuses: Dither Claims, Leaky Filters, and High-Frequency Noise
GoldenSound reviews MQA's specific technical rebuttals regarding the submitted audio files. MQA alleged that several files triggered server-side encoding errors; however, GoldenSound only ever received a single automated error notification, which occurred on isolated artificial test bursts like bare impulses and square waves (a known behavior also seen on hardware such as the Chord Electronics Hugo M Scaler).
MQA further claimed the measured noise floor degradation was a "naive mistake" resulting from GoldenSound failing to apply dither. GoldenSound refutes this outright: > “The first track I submitted called Try Again did have dither and it showed all of the issues mentioned in this video in fact some to a worse extent.”
Dither was intentionally omitted only on the subsequent two tracks to test whether external dithering interacted poorly with MQA's encoder.
When MQA objected to the term "leaky" for their slow upsampling filters—labeling the term "derogatory"—GoldenSound dryly jokes about whether the filter's feelings were hurt, before explaining why the engineering critique stands. Genuine high-resolution audio (such as native 96 kHz) provides over 13 times more bandwidth between the 20 kHz audio ceiling and the Nyquist limit than 44.1 kHz, making steep brick-wall filtering unnecessary without resorting to MQA's lossy folding tricks.
| Feature / Metric | Native High-Res PCM (96 kHz) | MQA Rendered Output | |:--- |:--- |:--- | | **Nyquist Transition Zone** | ~28 kHz band between 20 kHz & 48 kHz (13x wider than 44.1k) | Extremely slow, leaky roll-off allowing ultrasonic bypass | | **High-Frequency Noise** | Flat at natural system dither levels | Noise floor elevated to -43 dB at 20 kHz | | **Ultrasonic Aliasing** | Prevented by clean oversampling filters | Prone to folding down back into the audible band | | **Master Authenticity** | Mathematically lossless representation | Content-dependent adaptive encoding |
MQA claimed the measured ultrasonic aliasing occurred solely because artificial test tone amplitudes were excessively hot. While GoldenSound had uploaded a secondary track with reduced ultrasonic levels to measure down-aliasing thresholds, MQA's takedown of his catalog prevented TIDAL from publishing it; he offers to publish an immediate correction at the top of the video description if MQA provides the processed file proving otherwise.
Finally, MQA asserted that the added noise was merely inaudible ultrasonic dither concentrated at 25 kHz. Measurements disprove this: on both 44.1 kHz and fully unfolded outputs, the noise curve encroaches deep into the audible audio band, reaching an audible −43 dB at 20 kHz.
[35:50](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=2150s) Misleading Master Sample Rate Labels and Consumer Confusion
GoldenSound addresses the metadata surrounding sample rates. Although an MQA file contains tags indicating the original master sample rate, TIDAL’s native interface obscures this information entirely, leaving subscribers with the impression that every "Master" badge represents a full 192 kHz delivery unless they run secondary inspection software like Roon.
This UI opacity actively misinforms consumers about what they are streaming. GoldenSound conducted an audience survey of more than 240 respondents to quantify consumer perception: > “Of the people that said MQA was a good thing, two-thirds of them believed that MQA releases were the same or better than 24-bit 192 kilohertz FLAC.”
The gulf between MQA's technical realities and consumer marketing claims represents the core problem with the format's commercial adoption.
- 46% of survey respondents believed MQA was beneficial to audio reproduction. - Among pro-MQA respondents, fully two-thirds mistakenly believed MQA matches or outperforms genuine 24-bit/192 kHz FLAC files. - TIDAL lacks native indicators displaying true source sample rates, requiring external programs like Roon for verification.
[36:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=2198s) The Core Issue of Transparency and Final Acknowledgments
GoldenSound brings his investigation to a close by emphasizing why the entire ecosystem surrounding MQA desperately requires transparency. He argues that even if one assumes the best-case scenario—that a 24-bit, 192 kHz recording folded down into a 44.1 kHz container could unfold into something completely indistinguishable from an original native 192 kHz recording—that still would not excuse the broader reality of the format. A substantial portion of the MQA catalog available on streaming services consists merely of 44.1 kHz files generated from standard 44.1 kHz CD-quality masters. These files simply cannot match or exceed the quality of native, uncompressed high-resolution FLAC, and marketing them under the guise of an upgraded audiophile experience creates a deeply misleading impression across the industry. As GoldenSound stresses regarding this persistent marketing narrative, “The vast number of MQA releases that are 44.1 kilohertz from 44.1 kilohertz masters are not the same or better than native high-res FLAC, and this misconception is concerning.”
Wrapping up the presentation, GoldenSound hopes the technical breakdown has proven both informative and engaging for the audience. He extends his personal gratitude to Daniel Mellinger and Amos (widely known in the community as Currawong) for their hands-on assistance during the production of the video. Amos in particular curated an extensive compendium of articles, technical analysis, and documentary evidence detailing the history and behavior of MQA—much of which extends beyond what could fit into the video and is provided in the description for viewers wishing to investigate further. GoldenSound also credits the broader technical community whose foundational research, open tools, and testing methodologies informed his experiments, giving credit to Archimago, John Atkinson, Miska, Mans Rullgard (mansr), and Frederik V. Finally, he thanks the 250 individuals who took part in his community MQA survey, gives a special shout-out to his top-tier Patreon supporters, and invites viewers to continue the conversation in his Discord server or the patron Telegram group.
- **Mastering realities:** A massive portion of MQA's streaming catalog originates from basic 44.1 kHz source masters rather than genuine high-resolution material, nullifying claims of superior high-frequency reconstruction. - **Key research contributors:** Currawong (Amos) compiled extensive reference documentation; technical testing and analytical tools drew on prior work by Archimago, John Atkinson, Miska, Mans Rullgard, and Frederik V. - **Top Patreon supporters recognized:** Diamond and Legend tier patrons Chris Ross, Kyle Gravitas, Crack, Daniel Mellinger, King Jong-un, and Lana Bennett.
## Notable quotes > [12:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=758s) Even if MQA is a benefit in some cases, it should be a choice; it should not be mandatory. Speak with your wallet and demand lossless. — GoldenSound
> [12:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=758s) TIDAL's master is a degradation of the original to make it fit in a box that collects royalties. That money is ultimately paid by the listeners. — Neil Young
> [24:23](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=1463s) If a company can't provide its own evidence and goes to great lengths to prevent anyone else from testing it, that should probably raise quite a few red flags. — GoldenSound
> [08:49](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=529s) MQA or any method aimed at high fidelity shouldn't be adding noise. — GoldenSound
> [36:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjsu9-Vznc&t=2198s) The vast number of MQA releases that are 44.1 kilohertz from 44.1 kilohertz masters are not the same or better than native high-res FLAC, and this misconception is concerning. — GoldenSound
## Mentioned GoldenSound, MQA, Tidal, Deezer, Qobuz, FLAC, HQPlayer, Sam Smith, DeltaWave, Neil Young, FrederikV, Audiophile Style, Archimago, Chris Connaker, Rocky Mountain Audio Fest (RMAF), dCS, Chord Electronics, M Scaler, Bob Stuart, Bob Talks, Rob Watts, Watts Transient Aligned (WTA), DSD, AudioQuest, Linn, PS Audio, Paul McGowan, iFi audio, iFi micro iDSD Diablo, Gibbs Transient Optimized (GTO), Signalyst, RightMark Audio Analyzer (RMAA), Roon, Daniel Mellinger, Currawong (Amos), John Atkinson, Miska, Mans Rullgard (mansr), Chris Ross, Kyle Gravitas, Crack, King Jong-un, Lana Bennett
## Video description A deep dive into MQA, and its problems. Testing starts at 5:45
Come chat on discord: https://www.thegoldenone.co.uk Support me on patreon and join the private telegram chat: https://www.patreon.com/goldensound (or subscribestar) https://www.subscribestar.com/goldensound
How to test MQA's leaky filter: https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/62669-how-to-demonstrate-mqas-leaky-filter/ 2018 RMAF MQA talk by Chris Connaker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSv0lcHlawk Archimago's MQA article: https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/reviews/mqa-a-review-of-controversies-concerns-and-cautions-r701/ PS Audio vid on MQA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPfmWKjiccA Schiit on MQA: https://www.schiit.com/news/news/why-we-wont-be-supporting-mqa#:~:text=Today%2C%20Schiit%20Audio%20announced%20that,so%20that%20they%20may%20choose Linn on MQA: https://web.archive.org/web/20201111211105/https://www.linn.co.uk/blog/mqa-is-bad-for-music Neil Young removes albums from TIDAL: https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Tidal-Misleading-Listeners
Further reading on MQA:
GTO filter analysis: https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/55951-ifi-foe-fum/#comments
Benchmark Audio's statement about MQA transient shifting: https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/benchmark-media-systems-la4-line-amplifier-and-dac3-b-digital-to-analog-converter
RealHD stops supporting MQA: https://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=7218
Archimago on transient smearing https://archimago.blogspot.com/2018/02/musingsmeasurements-on-blurring-and-why.html
Rob Watts on digital filters: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/watts-up.800264/page-134#post-15968970
Benchmark on MQA: https://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/application_notes/163302855-is-mqa-doa
Meridian has doctored tests of hi-res in the past: https://audioinvestigations.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-great-debate-amir-vs-arny.html
Filter ringing (with a link to Mans/troll audio) https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30381-mqa-is-vaporware/page/699/?tab=comments#comment-983918
Aliasing vs. imaging: https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30381-mqa-is-vaporware/page/683/?tab=comments#comment-980885
Music aliasing distortion example: https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30381-mqa-is-vaporware/page/683/?tab=comments#comment-980857
Linear phase vs. Minimum phase: https://troll-audio.com/articles/linear-and-minimum-phase/
Sox settings to duplicate an MQA filter: https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/37821-stereophile-series-on-mqa-technology/page/7/?tab=comments#comment-754014
JA's post showing signal aliasing: https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30381-mqa-is-vaporware/?do=findComment&comment=980401
mansr's original Dragonfly DAC analysis: https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30572-mqa-technical-analysis/page/20/?tab=comments#comment-690307
Why MQA's digital filters blur the music: https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30381-mqa-is-vaporware/page/470/?tab=comments#comment-936690
A Survey of Musical Instrument Spectra to 102.4 KHz https://www.cco.caltech.edu/~boyk/spectra/spectra.htm
RealHD Audio on MQA: https://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=6517
Bob Stuart wanted to censor AS: https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30381-mqa-is-vaporware/page/584/?tab=comments#comment-958011
References in MQA's response:
[1] 'A Hierarchical Approach for Audio Archive and Distribution', JAES Volume 67 Issue 5 pp. 258-277; May 2019. http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=20456
[2] 'The Gentle Art of Dithering', JAES Volume 67 Issue 5 pp. 278-299; May 2019. http://www.aes.org/e‐lib/browse.cfm?elib=20457
[3] MQA Q&A Sidebar 1: https://www.stereophile.com/content/mqa‐questions‐and‐answers‐sidebar‐1‐ example‐nielsen‐2l‐120‐track‐1
[4] MQA Q&A Sidebar 2: https://www.stereophile.com/content/mqa‐questions‐and‐answers‐sidebar‐2‐ example‐portland‐state‐chamber‐choir
[5] MQA Sidebar 3: https://www.stereophile.com/content/mqa‐questions‐and‐answers‐sidebar‐3‐example‐ portland‐state‐amazing‐grace‐audibility‐analysis
[6] Bobtalks: MQA CD https://bobtalks.co.uk/blog/mqaplayback/origami‐and‐the‐last‐mile/
0:00 - Intro 1:15 - Summary of topics 1:47 - Pre-video clarifications 3:44 - What is MQA? 5:41 - How I got test files encoded in MQA 6:57 - MQA 44.1khz vs Native 44.1khz 8:14 - MQA HiRes vs Native 88.2khz 11:11 - Reduced Dynamic Range 11:47 - Does unfolding work? (Many MQA releases are just upsampled 44.1khz) 12:41 - No Lossless on tidal if track is MQA 13:47 - MQA "Authentication" means nothing 14:30 - MQA Upsampling filter is leaky 15:33 - Filter attenuation analysis 16:54 - HiRes unfolding analysis 18:53 - Full decode analysis 19:54 - Conclusion 21:19 - My Opinion, and testing cables 25:46 - Why are manufacturers supporting MQA? 27:13 - Best way to play MQA files 27:44 - ifi GTO filter is MQA 28:56 - MQA's response 37:02 - Credits/Thank you
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