## Background
Published on YouTube by Destin Sandlin on the SmarterEveryDay channel on July 26, 2026, this video outlines the journey to build an all-American barbecue scrubber and the economic forces surrounding domestic manufacturing. The show notes detail the project's supply chain partners, links to order the Smarter Scrubber, and educational reading recommendations on the Bretton Woods system.
## TL;DR
Destin Sandlin presents a detailed engineering and macroeconomic breakdown of his attempt to manufacture 'The Smarter Scrubber' entirely within the United States. Across three major engineering hurdles—redesigning plastic knobs using metal 3D printing, navigating monopsonies in chain mail sourcing, and engineering a dual-laser automated indexing station—he demonstrates that domestic production is technically feasible. Moving from workshop engineering to macroeconomic theory, he uses a 'Profit Prioritization Perambulator' model to explain how short-term profit extraction systematically degrades product quality and guts supply chains. Ultimately, Destin reframes domestic manufacturing not as an insurmountable technical barrier, but as an ethical choice to prioritize long-term self-reliance, quality, and human well-being.
## Atmosphere & style
The video blends an energetic, inquisitive shop-floor enthusiasm with serious economic candor and grounded, self-reflective humor. Destin balances technical curiosity—enthusiastically showing off custom machine automation and laser setups—with genuine frustration over global supply chain incentives and product degradation. The narrative arc shifts fluidly between hands-on DIY problem-solving in Alabama workshops, high-level discussions on Capitol Hill, and playful visual demonstrations of economic theory, creating an authentic, thought-provoking, and deeply human educational experience.
## Key takeaways
- [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=0s) Initial attempts to manufacture the Smarter Scrubber 100% domestically exposed systemic ethical and economic challenges within modern capitalism, including monopsonies and short-term profit pressure.
- [04:03](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=243s) Over 15.1 million wire bristle grill brushes have been recalled by the CPSC due to severe health risks from metal bristle ingestion.
- [05:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=301s) Mantle's metal 3D printing technology combined with CNC routing drastically reduced turnaround times for tool-steel injection mold cavities from months to a week.
- [10:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=607s) Transitioning from a manual in-mold insert process to an automated Swiss-style CNC lathe dropped component cycle times from over 2 minutes to 40 seconds.
- [17:51](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=1071s) Preserving uncodified trade secrets and tool-and-die manufacturing expertise is critical for domestic industrial resilience against aggressive foreign undercutting.
- [20:06](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=1206s) A monopsony in the single domestic chain mail manufacturing facility locked up 100% of its production capacity, forcing alternative ethical supply chain partnerships.
- [22:27](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=1347s) Partnering with MailleTec in Canada allowed ethical production using US-melted wire while preserving regional labor standards and supply chain transparency.
- [26:57](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=1617s) Designing a 16-position rotary indexing dual-laser workstation in-house eliminated handle engraving bottlenecks by processing three parts simultaneously.
- [34:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=2064s) The 'Profit Prioritization Perambulator' model illustrates how executive focus on short-term profit extraction ('enshittification') systematically degrades product quality and worker well-being.
- [42:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=2535s) Reinvesting increased manufacturing efficiencies into lower retail prices optimizes total market volume and ensures long-term business viability over short-term payouts.
## Detailed walkthrough
### [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=0s) The Reality of American Manufacturing and Capitalism
Destin opens with the core question driving this entire journey: can you actually manufacture a product completely in America? Reflecting on his first video about trying to build a simple barbecue grill scrubber entirely in the USA, he notes that depending on who you ask, the effort was either a resounding success or a miserable failure. For Destin, whose parents were auto workers, manufacturing domestically started as a personal engineering goal. However, digging into the process revealed systemic flaws in modern capitalism when ethics are stripped away—issues like monopsony and the constant pressure to trade long-term self-reliance for short-term profits. What began as a localized attempt to revive manufacturing capacity in Alabama felt like kicking a hornet's nest, exposing economic forces that affect the broader system.
Partnering with his friend John Youngblood, who originally conceived the product idea, Destin describes the overwhelming reaction to their initial release. The project caught national media attention, leading to a PBS NewsHour segment by Paul Solman that gave them an outside perspective on their own efforts. The scrubbers have since spread far and wide—so much so that Destin jokes bears are now stealing them off people's porches, supported by video evidence from a customer named Matthew.
At the same time, the dangers of traditional wire bristle grill brushes have become glaringly obvious. Recalling his previous warning about warning labels on wire brushes, Destin highlights that a staggering **13.4 million wire bristle grill brushes** have been recalled by the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) due to severe health risks. Loose metal bristles get stuck on grill grates, transfer to food, and end up ingested, creating life-threatening surgical emergencies. While Destin wants viewers to support the Smarter Scrubber, his deeper focus is examining why modern manufacturing consistently degrades product quality over time—a symptom of pushing profit maximization over human well-being.
- **Recall scale:** 13.4 million wire bristle grill brushes recalled by the CPSC due to ingestion hazards.
- **Media coverage:** Featured on *PBS NewsHour* with reporter Paul Solman.
- **Macro economic concepts introduced:** Monopsony, ethical capitalism, and domestic supply chain self-reliance.
To make these complex macroeconomic themes accessible, Destin structures the episode around three specific, real-world engineering hurdles they had to solve for the Smarter Scrubber:
1. **The Knob:** Solving the mystery of foreign sourcing and building a 100% American-made assembly.
2. **The Chainmail:** Navigating the surprisingly complex engineering behind the scrubbing mesh.
3. **The Laser Etcher:** Building a custom automated laser marking machine for the handles.
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[05:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=301s) Part 1: Solving the Knob Problem with Metal 3D Printing
The journey to fix the scrubber's knob began with a frustrating discovery at the warehouse: a box of knobs promised to be American-made was stamped "Made in Costa Rica." To maintain the project's strict 100% Made in USA standard, Destin needed a new injection mold fast. While 3D printing is often hyped as the future of manufacturing, Destin clarifies that standard 3D printing cannot produce parts at mass production scale fast enough—plastic injection molding remains essential for real manufacturing output.
```
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Traditional Injection Mold |
| [ Machined Steel Cavity ] ---> Insert Metal Part ---> Inject Plastic |
| * High cost, long lead times (months/years), labor intensive |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
vs
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Mantle Metal 3D Printing Process |
| [ Metal Paste Laydown ] -> [ Router Finishing ] -> [ Sintering Oven ] |
| * Tool-steel hardness cavities produced in just days/weeks |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
```
To create an American mold quickly, Destin turned to Ted, CEO of Mantle. The original Costa Rican design was an insert mold, requiring a worker to manually place a metal threaded insert inside the open mold cavity before every single shot—a slow, labor-intensive process. Ted proposed a clever redesign: injection mold a solid plastic knob with a hexagonal top recess, allowing a custom threaded metal insert to simply press and click into place after molding.
To overcome the long lead times typical of domestic toolmaking, Mantle utilized their specialized metal 3D printing technology. This process lays down a metal paste, uses a CNC router to trim precise contours, and then bakes the part in an oven to produce tool-steel-hard mold cavities with extremely tight tolerances. By pairing Mantle's printed cavity with local toolmaker Chris Robson—an injection molder whose equipment Destin's team eventually purchased so he could retire—they drastically cut down the turnaround time.
> "Whereas the injection mold journey I had to go on to make these parts took years, the turnaround time on the knob was just a week. It was awesome."
- **Original issue:** Knobs marked "Made in Costa Rica" arrived at the warehouse, violating the project mandate.
- **Mantle technology:** Combines metal 3D printing paste, CNC contour routing, and oven curing to create tool-steel mold inserts rapidly.
- **Design shift:** Switched from an in-mold insert process to a press-fit hexagonal locking mechanism, eliminating manual insert placement during molding cycles.
- **Vertical integration:** Destin's team acquired Chris Robson's injection molding machinery to bring all plastic molding operations in-house in Alabama.
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[10:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=607s) DIY Machining Failures and Bailing Out with Titans of CNC
Fixing the plastic knob was only half the battle; they still needed the internal threaded metal insert made domestically. When the original supplier revealed their in-stock inserts were imported and a domestic run would take months, Destin attempted a DIY garage workaround. Armed with 303 stainless steel hex bar stock, a matching hex collet, and programming help from his friend Rob, they tried turning the parts on a single-spindle CNC lathe.
The garage test yielded a part in **2 minutes and 11 seconds**, but the single-operation setup created severe production flaws. Parting off through the internal threads squished burrs directly into the threaded hole, requiring manual hand-tapping on every single piece just to thread a bolt through. To fix it in one setup, they would have needed back-side ID grooving tools and automated bar pullers—features their machine lacked. Facing heavy backorders and an unsustainable manual bottleneck, Destin called in a favor from the popular YouTube channel *Titans of CNC*.
Destin traveled to Texas during Titans of CNC's "Boomtastic" event to meet with Titan's son, Tyson, who had programmed a high-end Swiss-style lathe (screw machine) to run the parts. Tyson managed to drop the cycle time down to approximately **40 seconds** per part using a multi-spindle setup with roll tapping and live tooling:
```
[ Bar Stock Feed ] ──> [ Face & Drill ] ──> [ Profile & Hex Mill ] ──> [ Dynamic Sub-spindle Handoff ] ──> [ Back-side Tap & Deburr ] ──> [ Eject to Conveyor ]
```
The Swiss machine handled internal deburring seamlessly, dropping finished brass and stainless steel inserts onto a mini conveyor belt. Destin brought a bucket of injection-molded plastic knobs to the event floor, turning event attendees into an impromptu assembly line to press the inserts into place and clear the backlog. Shortly after, the primary US engineering supplier tooled up their facility in North Carolina to produce the threaded inserts at scale. With North Carolina supplying the metal inserts and Alabama running the injection molding, the knob assembly officially reached 100% Made in USA status.
- **Garage cycle time:** 2 minutes, 11 seconds per insert (required manual thread deburring and tapping).
- **Swiss lathe cycle time:** ~40 seconds per insert on Titan's machine (fully automated with dual spindles and roll tapping).
- **Material:** 303 stainless steel hex bar stock.
- **Final supply chain location:** Threaded metal inserts produced in **North Carolina**, plastic injection molded in **Alabama**.
- **Customer upgrade offer:** Customers who received early units with original Costa Rican zinc-coated knobs can purchase the new 100% stainless steel American-made replacement knob at cost via the Smarter Scrubber website.
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[16:44](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=1004s) Manufacturing Lessons: Cycle Time and Metal 3D Printing
Reflecting on the experience of manufacturing plastic knobs with brass or stainless steel threaded inserts in the United States, Destin highlights two fundamental insights about modern American production. First, technology has advanced rapidly: while injection molds used to require tedious full CNC machining, modern metal 3D printing—such as Mantle's 3D printing technology for mold cavities—dramatically speeds up tooling turnaround times. Second, cycle time is everything in high-volume manufacturing. While hobbyists or small shops can turn out one-off metal parts on a CNC in a garage, scaling up requires ultra-fast, dedicated setups.
This extreme focus on minimizing cycle times explains why 3D printing plastic parts directly is unfeasible for mass production. Standard plastic 3D printing takes too long per unit, making injection molding necessary to achieve low cycle times. To build a competitive product, manufacturers must optimize every step: leveraging injection molding for plastics, using specialized CNC setups for metals, and utilizing metal 3D printing for rapid tooling.
* **Key Manufacturing Takeaway:** Injection molding and dedicated metal setups drive cycle times down to levels where domestic production becomes economically viable.
* **Modern Molds:** Metal 3D printing substantially cuts down the turnaround time required to fabricate injection mold cavities.
[17:51](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=1071s) Preserving Tool and Die Knowledge on Capitol Hill
Destin recounts being invited to the Hill and Valley Forum—a high-level gathering bringing together policymakers from Capitol Hill and tech leaders from Silicon Valley to discuss domestic manufacturing and America's economic trajectory. Addressing an audience of influential figures and venture capitalists, Destin argued that restoring American manufacturing isn't as simple as injecting capital or relying solely on artificial intelligence. True manufacturing capacity relies on a fragile human "knowledge chain"—the specialized expertise of tool and die makers who craft custom end-effectors for robot arms, progressive stamping dies, and injection molds.
To illustrate the fragility of this expertise, Destin shares the story of Roger, a veteran tool and die maker featured in an earlier Smarter Every Day video, who passed away between filming and the video's release, taking decades of uncodified trade secrets with him. He contends that foreign competitors, particularly China, have strategically undercut American tool and die shops by offering tools for $15,000 that cost $60,000 to produce domestically. By breaking this intellectual chain, competitors systematically dismantle America's industrial baseline. He urges every manufacturing company to pair their resident technical "wizard" with an apprentice to preserve critical knowledge before it vanishes.
> "AI is fantastic, but... at the end of that robot arm to pick up this bottle, you have an end effector that is made by somebody in tool and die... If they can break the intellect chain, they beat us."
[20:06](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=1206s) Sourcing Chain Mail and Navigating a Monopsony
Turning to the scrubber's stainless steel chain mail, Destin revisits a frustrating setback from a previous episode. Attempting to source non-Chinese chain mail, they ordered stock from a supplier in India, only to discover upon delivery that the supplier had secretly drop-shipped Chinese-made chain mail. Emphasizing transparency, Destin clarifies that they never sold a single grill scrubber using this Chinese chain mail; instead, the box was quarantined in a warehouse corner because using it violated the project's core mission of domestic manufacturing.
```
Supply Chain Bottleneck (Monopsony):
[Single US Chain Mail Factory] ---> (100% Capacity Locked) ---> [Massive Single Client]
│
Blocks Access To
▼
[Smarter Scrubber / Small Buyers]
```
The difficulty in securing US-made chain mail stems from an economic concept Destin learned at the Hill and Valley Forum: a **monopsony**. While a monopoly features a single seller controlling the market, a monopsony occurs when a single dominant buyer controls the demand side. The sole factory in the United States capable of weaving the specific chain mail needed had its entire production capacity locked up by a sudden surge in orders from a single massive corporate client. Deprived of access to domestic supply, the team faced a manufacturing crisis.
* **Monopsony Defined:** A market condition where one dominant buyer exerts overwhelming control over suppliers, leaving smaller buyers without access to manufacturing capacity.
* **Strict Quality Integrity:** The Chinese chain mail mistakenly acquired through India was completely withheld from production to uphold the project's ethical standards.
[22:27](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=1347s) Partnering with MailleTec in Canada
The supply crisis was resolved when MailleTec, a specialized chain mail manufacturer located in Canada, reached out after seeing the video. On a Zoom call with Mason from MailleTec, Destin explores the company's background. Mason recounts how MailleTec had built up its business over years supplying an American company, expanding production from a few hundred units a month to nearly 10,000 units. Then, virtually overnight, the American client abruptly canceled all orders to switch to a cheaper Chinese supplier to widen their profit margins—forcing MailleTec into devastating layoffs.
Recognizing MailleTec's expertise and shared values, Destin and his partner John decided to split their chain mail orders between the US source and MailleTec, which weaves the mesh using wire melted and drawn in the United States. Addresssing potential internet critics who might accuse him of hypocrisy for accepting Canadian production while rejecting knobs molded in Central America, Destin draws a clear moral distinction:
* **Fair Labor & Transparency:** Destin maintains direct contact with MailleTec, knowing their working conditions, fair wages, and ethical standards firsthand.
* **Supply Chain Sustainability:** Unlike offshore production driven purely by bottom-line margin extraction, working with Canadian partners preserves regional expertise and ensures ethical labor.
* **Physical Segregation:** In the Alabama assembly warehouse, Canadian-woven heads and US-woven heads are stored and labeled separately ("Chain mail USA" vs. "Chain mail made in Canada from USA wire").
> "I know the people that are doing this. We've talked. I know the conditions under which they're working. I know they're not being exploited... One is more sustainable and it's more kind to people. One is just about money and profit."
[26:57](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=1617s) Designing an Automated Dual-Laser Indexing Station
Inside the Alabama warehouse where workers assemble the scrubbers, Destin walks through the production line for the stainless steel handles supplied by T&C Stamping. Because progressive stamping dies proved geometrically unfeasible, the handles are stamped using station tooling. Afterwards, each handle requires precise laser-engraving on two separate surfaces: the brand name ("Smarter Scrubber") on the handle body, and the origin statement ("Made in USA" or "Chain mail made in Canada from USA wire") on the opposite side of the scrubber head.
Initial production relied on contractor Chris Robson laser-engraving handles one at a time, which quickly created a severe bottleneck. The team then brought the process in-house with two separate laser units, but manual handling still throttled throughput. To solve this, Destin, David Linderman, and David Bronner from Modern Machine Integrators engineered an automated laser-engraving station centered around a 16-position indexing rotary table.
<Sequence>
{/* Reason: Procedural walkthrough of loading, sensing, and automated laser marking sequence on the rotary table. */}
<Step subtitle="Human operator loads three stamped handles into custom shuttles" title="Load Blank Handles">
The operator seats three handle blanks onto 3D-printed plastic posts ("shuttles") mounted on the rotary indexing table.
</Step>
<Step subtitle="Automated check for part presence and light curtain clearance" title="Sensor Verification & Safety Check">
Three optic sensors verify part placement (turning from red to green) while a safety light curtain ensures the operator's hands are clear of the rotation zone.
</Step>
<Step subtitle="16-position stage presents three parts simultaneously" title="Rotary Indexing">
The table indexes forward, rotating three handles into the enclosed laser chamber behind a solid aluminum barrier that blocks optical radiation.
</Step>
<Step subtitle="Simultaneous dual-sided laser engraving" title="Dual-Laser Firing">
Two distinct computer controllers fire separate laser heads concurrently: one engraves the logo on the front face, while the second engraves origin details on the reverse side.
</Step>
</Sequence>
* **In-House Innovation:** Custom 3D-printed shuttles hold the complex handle geometry, presenting both sides of three scrubbers to two stationary laser heads in a single machine cycle.
* **Safety & Ergonomics:** Solid aluminum shielding and optical light curtains keep the human operator safe while retaining quick manual loading without needing expensive robotic automation.
[33:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=1980s) Zooming Out: Capitalism and Systemic Challenges
Standing beside a custom setup he humorously calls a "redneck masterpiece," Destin synthesizes the broader lessons learned from solving these individual manufacturing hurdles. Drawing an analogy to the "Perambulator"—a device from Neal Stephenson's science fiction novel *Seveneves* used to balance complex orbiting variables—Destin notes how modern manufacturing is constantly forced to balance quality, ethics, supply chain resilience, and profit prioritization.
By solving granular challenges across the product—redesigning the plastic knob, establishing a dual US/Canadian chain mail supply, and automating laser-engraving—the team proved that domestic manufacturing is technically achievable. However, these specific triumphs highlight the immense systemic friction American makers face against global market forces. Destin prepares to shift from individual shop-floor solutions to analyzing the overarching macroeconomic structures of capitalism.
* **Components Resolved:**
* **Knob:** Replaced offshore units with domestic injection molding using metal 3D-printed molds.
* **Chain Mail:** Mitigated monopsony risks by combining US supply with Canadian weaving using US-melted wire.
* **Engraving:** Built a custom 16-position rotary indexing dual-laser workstation to eliminate production bottlenecks.
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[34:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=2064s) The Profit Prioritization Perambulator
Destin introduces a physical model he designed to demonstrate business decision-making, jokingly dubbing it the "Profit Prioritization Perambulator." The setup features various geometric shapes representing core economic forces within a capitalist framework:
* **Star (Product Quality):** Represents high five-star reviews and build quality.
* **Person (Societal Good):** Represents the happiness and well-being of workers, customers, and the surrounding community.
* **Profit:** Represents financial returns, which Destin emphasizes is not inherently bad but serves as an essential market signal.
* **Dotted Triangle (Business Viability):** Outlines the boundary of a sustainable business. Everything inside the dotted lines is a viable company, while anything pushed outside results in business failure.
* **Green Trapezoid (The Middle Class Sweet Spot):** Represents a healthy balance where workers are well-compensated, quality remains solid, and profits stay within reasonable bounds.
On the side of the apparatus, three sliders correspond to Quality, Profit, and Societal Good. Adjusting these controls shifts the internal mechanics, physically demonstrating how prioritizing one element forces trade-offs across the others.
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* **Quality:** Measured by a star icon (reviews and durability).
* **Societal Good:** Represented by a person icon (employee and customer well-being).
* **Viability Boundary:** The dotted triangle indicates whether a company stays solvent or fails.
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[36:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=2186s) Three CEO Archetypes: Over-Engineering, Over-Paying, and Profit Extraction
To demonstrate how different leadership philosophies affect business viability, Destin simulates three distinct CEO archetypes using the Perambulator:
1. **The Engineering-Obsessed CEO:** Driven by a desire for extreme quality, this CEO insists on using expensive super-alloys like niobium or "Fantastalloid" to build indestructible products. By maxing out quality without regard for costs, profit drops to zero, pushing the business outside the dotted triangle into immediate bankruptcy.
2. **The Overly Generous CEO:** Prioritizing worker happiness above all else, this leader overpays employees so they can afford bass boats and lets them off early at 1:00 PM for fishing tournaments. Without maintaining balance, the business quickly collapses.
3. **The Profit-Driven CEO:** Focuses strictly on maximizing financial returns. Starting with a viable product—such as a stainless steel grill scrubber—this leader slowly compromises on ethics and quality to extract maximum profit through a sequence of steps:
* **Lower Material Quality:** Swapping 304/303 stainless steel for cheaper overseas alloys increases profits while keeping quality high enough that customers don't immediately leave.
* **Labor Exploitation:** Replacing permanent employees with temporary contract workers without benefits or long-term job security pushes profit margins higher.
* **Short-Term Offshoring:** Moving all operations overseas to strip out domestic production costs completely.
Destin notes that this third strategy wedges the business into the top corner of the triangle—what he humorously terms the "profit crotch." This represents the absolute maximum profit a company can extract without immediately driving away customers.
> "This is the most profit you can get out of a company without poking through the other side and ticking people off. And this is why almost every product you have that you've loved has eventually become a crappier version of itself."
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* **Cory Doctorow's "Enshittification" (termed "Encrappification" by Destin):** Describes the shift where a business transitions from capturing market share via product excellence to pure profit extraction.
* **Minimum Viable Product (MVP):** Market incentives reward delivering the absolute lowest quality product consumers will tolerate while continuing to pay.
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[41:05](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=2465s) Crossing the Line: Product Recalls and The Smarter Scrubber's Position
If a profit-obsessed CEO pushes cost-cutting too far—skipping quality control or using unsafe adhesive methods—the company "pops right through the profit crotch." The result is a defective or dangerous product that inflicts harm on consumers, leading to massive product recalls and brand collapse. Destin points out that this exact cycle played out with wire-bristle grill brushes, leading to millions of units being pulled from store shelves.
Destin and his business partner, John, initially positioned **The Smarter Scrubber** on the high-quality, high-cost side of the spectrum. However, recent manufacturing breakthroughs have shifted their cost structure without sacrificing quality:
* **Injection Molding Acquisition:** After their partner Chris retired, John and Destin acquired his injection molding machinery, eliminating third-party markups.
* **Custom Automated Laser Machine:** Destin engineered an automated laser-processing machine that sped up production by 3x compared to their original setup.
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* **The Profit Dilemma:** Increased manufacturing efficiency created higher profit margins, leaving John and Destin to choose between short-term payout or long-term growth.
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[42:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=2535s) Business Strategy with John from JJ George
Destin sits down with his business partner, John from JJ George (the distributor for The Smarter Scrubber), to discuss how to allocate their newly optimized profit margins.
When Destin jokingly asks if it's "yacht time," John outlines a long-term business strategy instead:
* **Reinvesting Profits:** Rather than taking short-term payouts, they are lowering the retail price to sell higher volumes over time, ensuring long-term business viability.
* **Normalizing the Business:** Because Destin cannot turn *Smarter Every Day* into a permanent product channel, the business must support traditional paid advertising and function independently.
* **High Conversion Rates:** Analytics show a standard e-commerce conversion rate is ~3%, whereas The Smarter Scrubber converts at **~8%**. This indicates strong word-of-mouth referral traffic from consumers actively searching for the product.
```
Standard E-Commerce Conversion: [3%]
The Smarter Scrubber Conversion: [8%] ======>> (High word-of-mouth demand)
```
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* **Production Speedup:** The new laser setup increased handle processing speed threefold.
* **Marketing Strategy:** Transitioning from creator-led organic promotion to paid advertising and retail distribution.
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[44:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=2685s) Economics Realities: Supply/Demand vs. Profit Optimization
Destin bridges theoretical microeconomics with his real-world experience manufacturing in the United States, breaking down two distinct economic curves that explain their strategy:
#### 1. The Market Distortion (Supply and Demand)
When major competitors recalled millions of dangerous wire grill scrubbers, the market supply dropped dramatically. Combined with sustained consumer demand, the equilibrium price for grill scrubbers across the market surged upward.
#### 2. Classical Profit Optimization
Rather than raising prices to exploit the market shortage, John chose to lower prices to maximize volume:
$$\text{Total Profit} = \text{Quantity Sold} \times \text{Profit Margin Per Unit}$$
Lowering unit margins increases overall sales volume, resulting in a larger total area under the profit curve.
```
Price
^
| \ <-- High Price / Low Volume
| \
| \=========> Optimal Price Point (Maximizes Area = Max Total Profit)
| \
+-------------------> Quantity
```
Destin concludes that domestic American manufacturing is not blocked by technical limitations, but rather by short-term executive priorities:
> "I wanted to know if I could make something in America because I'm an engineer, and I thought this was a technical problem. It's not a technical problem. This is an ethical problem."
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* **Short-Term vs. Long-Term Thinking:** Short-term profit extraction guts local supply chains and communities by moving production overseas, whereas long-term planning sustains local jobs and domestic manufacturing infrastructure.
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[49:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=2950s) The Pitch: Ethics, Cathedrals, and Domestic Manufacturing
Destin finishes with a final pitch for The Smarter Scrubber, emphasizing safety and community impact over aggressive sales tactics:
* **The Wire Brush Danger:** At the start of filming, 13.4 million wire-bristle brushes had been recalled in the U.S. Over the single month of editing this video, an additional **1.7 million** units were recalled due to ingestion risks from loose bristles. Destin urges viewers to switch to safer alternatives like balled-up aluminum foil, onions, or wooden scrapers—even if they don't buy his scrubber.
* **The Cathedral Analogy:** Referencing C.S. Lewis, Destin explains his motivation isn't personal pride in ownership, but satisfaction that a complete, high-quality domestic supply chain exists:
* **Injection Molding:** Performed domestically using acquired machinery.
* **Metal Handles:** Stamped by T&C Stamping (where viewers are invited to ask for Weston).
* **Labeling:** Stickers printed by a supplier in Wisconsin.
* **Scrubbing Surface:** Chainmail sourced and assembled in local American communities.
Destin concludes that choosing locally manufactured products supports local supply chains and fights the broader trend of product degradation across consumer goods.
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* **Recalled Wire Brushes:** Over 15.1 million total wire bristle brushes recalled to date.
* **Supply Chain Partners:** T&C Stamping (metal handles), Wisconsin sticker suppliers, local injection molding facilities.
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Here is the detailed, faithful walkthrough of the transcript segment.
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[52:03](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=3123s) Customer Feedback, Unique Features, and Versatility
Here's my take: once people actually get the Smarter Scrubber into their hands, all complaints about price vanish. Destin jokes that holding it feels like wielding a "medieval weapon" that could be used for self-defense if anyone ever threatened your family. Now that a large number of units have been sold, Destin has gathered feedback from users across various regions who shared videos explaining what they love about the tool. A customer on the Georgia coast notes that despite the salty air where "everything down here rusts," the scrubber shows no rust at all. Another user from British Columbia, Canada, who bought units for himself, his father, and his brother, demonstrates taking the handle off to get into tight edges and grooves—playfully noting that "it doesn't get caught on my back hair" and thanking Destin for making a product in America that makes him proud. There is even a story about a bear stealing a scrubber off someone's porch; while Destin jokes he wants to claim it's "bear proof," they never recovered it to confirm, though he assumes the bear went after it because it smelled so good.
Users also highlight the product's versatility beyond the outdoor grill. The silicone core can be removed to scrub cast iron in the kitchen sink, cleaned with a garden hose, or thrown directly into the dishwasher. In response to common questions, Destin confirms the scrubber can be used on a hot grill since the silicone is rated for temperatures in the 300s—though he advises users to use common sense so they don't melt it. Addressing a misconception that the flat chainmail design only cleans the top of grill grates, Destin takes responsibility for not explaining the design clearly earlier. He demonstrates how the tool's specially designed side radius allows users to tilt it up on its edge to get deep between the grates, while the front curved section can be rocked up to hook underneath and pop off any burnt residue clinging to the bottom of the rails.
- **Durability & Build:** Constructed with stainless steel components and heavy-duty stainless steel threads, built as a high-quality tool intended to be passed down to your kids.
- **Versatility:** Works on outdoor grills and indoor cast iron; safe to rinse with a hose or place in the dishwasher.
- **Heat Rating:** Silicone component is rated for 300+ degrees Fahrenheit.
- **Design Elements:** Side radius designed for cleaning between grates; front curved lip designed to hook under grates and pop off stubborn burnt buildup.
[52:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=3140s) How to Purchase and Final Pitch
Wrapping up the product pitch, Destin directs viewers to SmarterScrubber.com to order. The product is sold direct-to-consumer through JJ George and ships globally, though viewers should check the site to see if their specific country is supported. Destin explicitly notes that they do not sell on Amazon due to the issues outlined in their previous video. They currently have inventory ready to fulfill orders quickly, but if items go on backorder, their in-house manufacturing capabilities will allow them to replenish stock rapidly.
Destin expresses sincere gratitude to the audience for following along on this journey and considering supporting the project. As he delivers his classic sign-off—"I'm Destin. You're getting Smarter Every Day"—a sudden, massive lightning strike detonates right outside the building, cutting him off mid-sentence. The video ends on a candid note as Destin reacts in shock to the thunder, double-checking to make sure the cameras are still recording.
- "They know that this is a medieval weapon, and they can do harm to anybody that would threaten their family if they need to."
- "This is built so that hopefully you'll end up giving this to your kids."
- **Sales Channel:** Available exclusively at SmarterScrubber.com and distributed via JJ George (intentionally not sold on Amazon).
- **Production Status:** In-house production means rapid fulfillment and quick turnarounds on backorders.
## Notable quotes
> [05:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=301s) Whereas the injection mold journey I had to go on to make these parts took years, the turnaround time on the knob was just a week. It was awesome. — Destin Sandlin
> [17:51](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=1071s) AI is fantastic, but... at the end of that robot arm to pick up this bottle, you have an end effector that is made by somebody in tool and die... If they can break the intellect chain, they beat us. — Destin Sandlin
> [22:27](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=1347s) I know the people that are doing this. We've talked. I know the conditions under which they're working. I know they're not being exploited... One is more sustainable and it's more kind to people. One is just about money and profit. — Destin Sandlin
> [36:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=2186s) This is the most profit you can get out of a company without poking through the other side and ticking people off. And this is why almost every product you have that you've loved has eventually become a crappier version of itself. — Destin Sandlin
> [44:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=2685s) I wanted to know if I could make something in America because I'm an engineer, and I thought this was a technical problem. It's not a technical problem. This is an ethical problem. — Destin Sandlin
> [52:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=3120s) They know that this is a medieval weapon, and they can do harm to anybody that would threaten their family if they need to. — Destin Sandlin
> [52:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=3120s) This is built so that hopefully you'll end up giving this to your kids. — Destin Sandlin
> [52:03](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6HEes8daw&t=3123s) it doesn't get caught on my back hair — Customer from British Columbia
## Mentioned
Destin Sandlin, John Youngblood, Paul Solman, Ted, Chris Robson, Rob, Tyson, Roger, Mason, David Linderman, David Bronner, Cory Doctorow, C.S. Lewis, Gordon McGladdery, Smarter Every Day, Smarter Scrubber, JJGeorge, Mantle 3D Printing, T&C Metal Stamping, Titans of CNC, MailleTec, Modern Machine Integrators, Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), PBS NewsHour, Search Engine Podcast, Hill and Valley Forum, Seveneves
Destin Sandlin argues that reviving domestic consumer manufacturing is fundamentally an ethical challenge rather than a technical one, as systemic pressures in modern capitalism incentivize short-term margin extraction at the expense of craftsmanship, supply chain resilience, and consumer safety.
Overcoming Domestic Tooling and Cycle-Time Bottlenecks (5:01)
Attempting to manufacture a barbecue grill scrubber entirely in the United States exposed severe domestic production hurdles. After discovering initial batches of plastic knobs were marked "Made in Costa Rica," Sandlin's team sought domestic alternatives. Standard 3D printing proved far too slow for mass production, necessitating injection molding. To bypass months-long domestic mold-making delays, the team used Mantle's metal 3D printing technology—combining metal paste deposition, CNC contour shaping, and furnace sintering—to create tool-steel mold cavities in approximately one week.
Machining the knob's internal 303 stainless steel threaded insert presented additional cycle-time bottlenecks. A garage single-spindle lathe required 2 minutes and 11 seconds per unit and left burrs inside the threads, creating manual rework. Partnering with Titans of CNC, they reprogrammed production on a dual-spindle Swiss-style lathe with roll tapping, dropping cycle times to roughly 40 seconds before transitioning full-scale insert production to North Carolina and plastic molding to Alabama. To resolve handle processing bottlenecks, Sandlin developed an automated 16-position rotary indexing station with light curtains and dual lasers, tripling engraving speed.
Monopsony Pressures and the Disappearing Knowledge Chain (17:51)
Sandlin contends that domestic industrial revival is constrained by the erosion of foundational trade expertise. Addressing policymakers and investors at the Hill and Valley Forum, he argued that advanced automation and artificial intelligence still rely on the specialized craftsmanship of tool and die makers. Foreign competitors have undercut domestic toolmakers by selling tooling for $15,000 that costs $60,000 to fabricate in the United States, breaking the domestic "knowledge chain" as aging master machinists retire without trained apprentices.
Domestic sourcing was further obstructed by a monopsony—a market condition where a single dominant buyer controls demand. The only United States factory capable of weaving the required stainless steel chainmail had 100% of its capacity booked by a single massive client, shutting out smaller domestic buyers. After rejecting secretly drop-shipped Chinese chainmail from an Indian supplier, the team partnered with MailleTec, a Canadian manufacturer that had experienced severe layoffs when an American customer abruptly shifted production to China. The scrubber's chainmail orders were split between domestic supply and MailleTec, which weaves the mesh using steel melted and drawn in the United States.
The Perambulator Model and Product Degradation (34:24)
To analyze how corporate incentives degrade products over time, Sandlin developed a physical model titled the "Profit Prioritization Perambulator." The mechanism maps the necessary trade-offs between three core forces: product quality, societal good (worker and customer well-being), and profit. Operating outside the sustainable boundary causes enterprise collapse: over-engineering exhausts capital, while over-allocating resources strictly to worker compensation without market discipline leads to business failure.
The profit-driven executive archetype maximizes returns by substituting cheaper materials, shifting permanent staff to temporary contract labor, and offshoring manufacturing. This drives businesses into the "profit crotch"—extracting maximum profit just before provoking consumer abandonment, a pattern aligned with Cory Doctorow's concept of "enshittification." Pushing past this threshold results in hazardous failures, exemplified by the Consumer Product Safety Commission recalling over 15.1 million wire-bristle grill brushes due to metal bristles detaching into food and causing surgical emergencies.
Profit Optimization and Ethical Business Strategy (42:15)
When in-house vertical integration and automated laser processing expanded the Smarter Scrubber's profit margins, Sandlin and distributor John Youngblood of JJ George chose long-term viability over immediate payout. Rather than raising prices during market shortages caused by wire-brush recalls, they lowered retail prices to maximize total profit across higher sales volumes under classical profit optimization models.
The venture deliberately bypassed Amazon, selling directly through SmarterScrubber.com. The product achieved an e-commerce conversion rate of approximately 8%, compared to the 3% industry standard, which Youngblood attributes to high word-of-mouth intent. Sandlin compares establishing a fully integrated, ethical domestic supply chain—incorporating Alabama injection molding, Alabama laser marking, Wisconsin packaging, and North Carolina metal inserts—to cathedral building, emphasizing long-term regional capacity over financial extraction.
Sandlin concludes that sustaining domestic manufacturing depends on executive ethics rather than technical capability alone, urging businesses to balance profit with craftsmanship and encouraging consumers to support local supply chains even when lower-cost alternatives exist.
[5:01] Destin Sandlin: Whereas the injection mold journey I had to go on to make these parts took years, the turnaround time on the knob was just a week. It was awesome.
[17:51] Destin Sandlin: AI is fantastic, but... at the end of that robot arm to pick up this bottle, you have an end effector that is made by somebody in tool and die... If they can break the intellect chain, they beat us.
[22:27] Destin Sandlin: I know the people that are doing this. We've talked. I know the conditions under which they're working. I know they're not being exploited... One is more sustainable and it's more kind to people. One is just about money and profit.
[36:26] Destin Sandlin: This is the most profit you can get out of a company without poking through the other side and ticking people off. And this is why almost every product you have that you've loved has eventually become a crappier version of itself.
[44:45] Destin Sandlin: I wanted to know if I could make something in America because I'm an engineer, and I thought this was a technical problem. It's not a technical problem. This is an ethical problem.
[52:00] Destin Sandlin: They know that this is a medieval weapon, and they can do harm to anybody that would threaten their family if they need to.
[52:00] Destin Sandlin: This is built so that hopefully you'll end up giving this to your kids.
[52:03] Customer from British Columbia: it doesn't get caught on my back hair
Original transcript
[0:00] Can you manufacture
something completely in America?
[0:03] That is still the question.
[0:06] In the first video on this topic,
I explained how we tried to make
[0:09] a simple barbecue grill scrubber
completely in America,
[0:13] and depending on who you ask, we either
succeeded or we failed miserably.
[0:17] This started off
[0:18] as an engineering challenge for me,
because my parents were auto workers,
[0:22] and I wanted to make something in America
because that was important to me.
[0:26] But what I learned was way
bigger than that.
[0:29] I learned about systemic challenges
in our capitalistic system
[0:33] if you have no ethics applied.
[0:36] I learned about things like monopsony,
[0:38] which is a fancy word
that we'll go into later.
[0:41] There are systemic level issues in
the whole manufacturing thing in America
[0:46] that are important to understand,
because if you don't understand them,
[0:50] you will trade short-term gains
[0:52] for long-term freedom and self-reliance.
[0:55] This little project has taught me so much
because I thought I was just going to try
[0:59] to flip on some manufacturing
[1:01] capacity here in Alabama,
but it's so much bigger than that.
[1:05] It's like kicking a hornet's nest,
because now I understand the whole system
[1:09] has a problem, and other people
are recognizing that as well.
[1:14] Today, on Smarter Every Day,
we're going to dive into these issues
[1:17] and try to understand
more about the importance of self-reliance
[1:20] and manufacturing in your local area.
[1:24] Let's go get smarter every day.
[1:30] This is my buddy John Youngblood.
[1:32] This product idea was his.
[1:34] My contribution was just wanting
to manufacture a thing in America.
[1:38] And when we released this video together
after we partnered up,
[1:42] we were overwhelmed with the response.
[1:44] People just wanting to talk about
how interesting the project was.
[1:47] Other people
[1:48] who had experienced manufacturing woes
and wanted to illustrate their issues.
[1:52] It was a fascinating thing.
[1:54] We even got to kind of look at ourselves
from the outside looking in,
[1:57] because PBS NewsHour, that's Paul Solman.
[2:00] He came down to Alabama and made a piece
on our little scrubber project,
[2:04] which was really cool to see yourself
from the outside perspective.
[2:07] It was pretty fun.
[2:08] Another thing is a lot of people
said, well, did it work?
[2:12] Are you selling a lot of grill scrubbers?
[2:13] And I'll just put it this way, there are
enough grill scrubbers out in the wild
[2:17] now that bears are starting
to steal them off people's porches.
[2:21] At least we have one video
from a guy named Matthew.
[2:24] I'll show you that later. It's
a very interesting video.
[2:26] At the end of that last video, I showed
you this, a wire bristle grill brush.
[2:30] And I said this:
[2:32] when they put a sticker on here,
it says something like, stop using this
[2:35] if bristles are found on the grill,
replace after one year of use recommended.
[2:39] That person is just trying to sell you
a grill scrubber.
[2:41] They don't care about you
like I care about you.
[2:43] 13.4 million.
[2:46] That is how many wire bristle grill
brushes have been recalled
[2:50] since I said that statement
in the earlier video.
[2:54] That is a big, big number.
[2:56] And the reason the Consumer Product Safety
Commission in America
[3:00] issued these two large recalls
is because those bristles
[3:04] can come off on your grill,
[3:05] and then you can
put your food on the grill,
[3:07] and then the wire
will get stuck to your food.
[3:09] You ingest it, and you have
a surgical emergency to get it out.
[3:12] It's a pretty big deal.
But here's the thing.
[3:15] I'm not just interested
[3:16] in talking about this
because I want to sell you a grill brush.
[3:20] I do want you to buy a Smarter Scrubber.
[3:22] I'll tell you that
at the end of the video.
[3:24] But what I'm really interested in is
what are the systemic forces
[3:28] in our economy that makes that the norm?
[3:32] Almost every product
I have eventually becomes
[3:35] a crappier version of itself,
and I hate that.
[3:38] This is what happens
when you push capitalism to the max
[3:42] and you prioritize profits over people.
[3:44] Profit is a very important component
to the world economy.
[3:49] And today
we're going to talk about the nuance
[3:51] of how that can be used
and what happens when you take it too far.
[3:55] Okay.
[3:56] I was trying to figure out how to explain
all the macro issues in this video,
[4:01] and I did the brainstorming thing,
but ultimately,
[4:05] I think it makes sense to make
this simpler— because if you understand
[4:09] the micro engineering
and production issues that we had,
[4:12] you can understand the big problems
on the macro scale.
[4:15] So here's
how we're going to break this down.
[4:17] The first part of this video
is going to be about the knob.
[4:20] The knob is the part on the back
of the Smarter Scrubber
[4:23] right there
that holds the head to the handle.
[4:26] We had an issue with that.
[4:28] We're going to talk about that
in the first part of the video.
[4:30] The second part of the video, we're
going to look at the chain mail itself.
[4:34] This seems like a pretty simple thing.
It is not.
[4:37] We are going to learn all about that.
[4:39] And the third thing is we are going
to look at a laser machine that we made.
[4:44] So, so this little thing right here,
this etching on the back of the handle.
[4:48] Let me focus on my hand here.
[4:49] That etching is done with a laser
and it's pretty hard to do.
[4:53] We did something really cool
that I think you're going to like.
[4:56] So let's go all the way back here
and let's start at part one, the knob.
[5:01] In the last video at the end of the video,
a weird thing happened.
[5:04] We got what we were told
were American-made knobs to our warehouse,
[5:09] and when we looked at the box,
it's right there on the side.
[5:11] It says Made in Costa Rica.
[5:13] Obviously, that does not meet
[5:15] the requirements of this project
to make something completely in America.
[5:18] So I knew at that moment in time,
at some point in the future,
[5:21] I was going to have to create another mold
to injection mold a plastic part.
[5:26] Okay., real quick, an injection
[5:28] mold is when you take a piece of metal
and you cut out a fancy shape in it.
[5:32] That's the shape of the part you want.
[5:34] And you have another piece
that has the other side of the part.
[5:37] And you push them together
under a lot of force, and you inject
[5:40] molten plastic into that void
between the two parts.
[5:44] And then after it
[5:45] solidifies, you pull them apart
and you pull out the part you want.
[5:49] Now, this is a really smart way
to make a lot of parts very quickly
[5:53] in the first go-around.
[5:54] It took years for me to
to get to the point where I could do that,
[5:58] because I didn't
want to do the mold in China.
[5:59] So I knew doing one of
these molds in America had to happen, but
[6:03] I needed it to happen really, really fast
because we had a ton of back orders.
[6:08] We had sold more scrubbers
than we had parts to give to people,
[6:12] so it was critical.
[6:13] Like, this is a really big deal.
[6:15] So now you may be a person
[6:18] that's heard things like,
oh, 3D printing is the future, right?
[6:21] Yeah, we can 3D print anything.
[6:23] Here's the problem though.
[6:24] You can't 3D print parts at scale fast
enough.
[6:28] You can't do it.
[6:29] So if you're
[6:30] actually going to make production parts,
you really need to be thinking
[6:33] about injection molding.
That's just the way it goes.
[6:36] So when we got to looking at this part
from Costa Rica, we're like, all right,
[6:40] well we're basically going to reverse
engineer this thing.
[6:42] It was what's called an insert mold.
[6:45] So it had a metal part
that was inserted into the mold.
[6:50] And then the injection molding
puts the plastic around that.
[6:54] Now that's a pretty cool way to do it.
[6:56] But the problem with that is it's
very difficult because you actually have
[7:00] to insert that part in there
when the mold cavity is open.
[7:04] That's hard to do.
[7:05] Labor intensive, all the things.
[7:07] So when I talked to Ted from the company
called Mantle
[7:10] at the end of the last video,
[7:12] I just basically asked him straight
up, Ted, will you help us make this knob?
[7:16] I was wondering
if you'd be willing to work with me
[7:18] to make another mold
using your technology for this knob?
[7:22] That'd be great.
[7:23] We print stuff like that all the time.
[7:25] We can do all types of geometry.
[7:27] That would be a shoe-in
for our technology.
[7:29] And we could do it a lot faster
than you would normally as well.
[7:31] Will you please help me?
I will do my best.
[7:34] I'll do my best. And boy, did he help.
[7:36] He even came up with a good design
for the knob.
[7:38] Ted said,
[7:39] instead of having this metal insert
that actually gets molded into the part.
[7:45] What if we just make a knob
that has a hole in the top, a hex hole?
[7:49] You take this thing right here.
[7:51] You injection mold a plastic part,
and then you drop that down in there,
[7:55] and then you push it in place
and it clicks in there.
[7:58] That is a genius idea,
because we no longer have to drop
[8:01] a metal part in between the mold cavity
every time.
[8:05] We can just straight
pull an injection mold part and we can.
[8:08] We're off to the races, right? It's great.
[8:10] One of the reasons that Americans
get whipped in the manufacturing game
[8:14] is because we don't have the ability
to make injection
[8:17] molds as quickly as the Chinese
or some other places, right?
[8:21] Well, Ted,
the CEO of Mantle, has a technology
[8:25] that can help change that equation.
[8:28] He has a metal 3D printing technology
that will lay down this paste,
[8:33] and then a CNC router kind of thing will
come along and it'll burr the outside.
[8:37] And that allows you to hold very tight
tolerances on your metal 3D print.
[8:42] They then put it in an oven
and they cure it and out
[8:44] pops a metal part
that's as hard as tool steel.
[8:48] And that's a really big deal,
because now the intricate
[8:52] geometry of the injection
mold, you can 3D print it.
[8:55] So that's awesome.
[8:56] You're leveraging the 3D
printing software and technology
[9:00] to get you to a metal part that can
then get you to plastic injection molding.
[9:05] This is the future. So Ted agreed.
[9:07] We actually collaborated
[9:09] with Chris Robson, our original injection
molder, with some engineers at Mantle.
[9:13] We designed a mold cavity
that would fit the need for our part.
[9:17] Then we had that thing made at Mantle,
and they shipped it out to us.
[9:22] You still need a tool
and die person to make the mold work.
[9:24] Once you have the cavities,
but that cavity part is so hard
[9:28] because that's the intricate,
very high tolerance geometry.
[9:31] When it arrived here in Alabama,
Chris Robson still dressed the mold.
[9:36] You still have to put it in the injection
mold assembly.
[9:39] We did that and we were making parts.
[9:41] So whereas the injection mold journey
I had to go on to make these parts
[9:45] took years.
[9:46] The, the turnaround time on the knob
was just a week.
[9:51] It was awesome.
[9:52] So Chris Robson was the injection molder
that was retiring.
[9:55] We actually ended up buying his injection
molding machine so he could go retire.
[9:59] And we are now operating those in-house.
[10:02] We are doing the injection molding now.
[10:04] We're getting more vertically
aligned on our supply chain.
[10:07] It sounds like we fixed the knob, right?
[10:09] We did not.
It's more complicated than that.
[10:12] You remember the metal insert
I told you about?
[10:15] So the company said, yes,
we have these in hand.
[10:18] They're made in America.
[10:19] I was like, great, that's awesome.
[10:21] I need thousands of them.
They said, okay, cool.
[10:23] Oh, wait, the ones we have in hand
aren't made in America.
[10:26] They're made from overseas.
I said, no, sorry.
[10:28] This little insert right here,
I have to have one made in America.
[10:32] Can you please tool up and make it?
[10:34] And they said, no,
we can't do that for like months.
[10:37] And I was like, are you serious?
[10:39] We have a backorder.
[10:41] We have to make a lot of them now.
[10:42] And so I did what any self-respecting
redneck would do.
[10:45] This is a CNC lathe
that can make parts like that.
[10:48] So what I did is I sourced some 303
stainless steel hex bar.
[10:54] I got a hex collet
that would work on this CNC lathe.
[10:59] And the most important part of this,
my buddy Rob, who knows how to program
[11:03] CNC lathes, I got him involved,
[11:05] and we started trying to figure out
if we could make these here in my garage.
[11:09] All right.
[11:14] Turns out we can.
[11:15] There it is.
[11:17] What was the cycle time?
[11:20] Two minutes, 11 seconds? Yup.
[11:22] Now you just have to find it.
[11:25] Where is it?
[11:26] The only problem is
[11:27] it's a very long cycle time,
and it ends up looking kind of wonky.
[11:32] So instead of having, like,
a nice clean shape
[11:35] with all these teeth on it
and stuff like that,
[11:37] we get these really weird barbs and edges
and it just doesn't work very well.
[11:40] I could have done these
OD features as well.
[11:44] I've just got to grind the tool
just like groove it.
[11:48] Yeah.
[11:48] When you're parting off through threads,
it will actually deform.
[11:53] So you're actually working the thread.
[11:55] Well, you end up
pushing the thread down into the hole.
[11:58] I see.
[11:59] So like on this part,
the only reason I can screw this bolt
[12:02] all the way through it right now
is because I've already run a tap by hand,
[12:06] just back through the hole to get rid
of that burr right there, so we can't.
[12:10] So because we have this CNC lathe that
only has one side operation basically—
[12:13] so we can automate it.
You could automate it.
[12:16] But in order to get it done in one shot,
you would have to
[12:21] put like a little ID grooving tool
and actually relieve
[12:24] cut the backside of the part
before you part it off.
[12:26] You have to go in there and turn around
and groove back in the other direction,
[12:30] just enough so that when you're
tapping through, you're not.
[12:33] You're tapping in the empty space.
[12:35] And then, of course, you'd have to like,
put an air cylinder on
[12:38] something like that
and automate pushing it for the bar stop.
[12:42] I at this point
realized that I was in over my head,
[12:45] but I still had all these back orders
that we wanted to ship out.
[12:48] People wanted their scrubbers.
[12:49] So I called in a favor
with another YouTube channel.
[12:52] There's a channel
called the Titans of CNC.
[12:55] And what's really cool about the Titans is
they are experts at CNC machining.
[13:00] And I heard that they had a special type
of machine called a screw machine,
[13:05] sometimes called Swiss machines,
and I wanted to go out
[13:08] and see if they would help me.
[13:09] So they decided yes,
they would help me get through the gap
[13:13] until I could get the American-made
threaded inserts in hand.
[13:17] Okay, we're in Texas at Titans of CNC,
[13:21] at a thing called Boomtastic,
[13:23] and there's a lot of people lining up
to see what's going on.
[13:26] And here's Dave
who organized all this for me.
[13:28] What's up, Dave? How you doin’ brother? Thank you.
[13:32] Yeah.
[13:32] Machines you can walk inside of.
[13:34] Oh my gosh.
[13:37] If you saw how I was making stuff.
[13:39] Dude, that's a stock feeder.
[13:41] Oh, this is the nano. Yeah,
I've seen this.
[13:44] Are those them?
[13:45] Are you the guy that programmed it?
[13:49] I'm Destin. Yeah. Oh,
nice to meet you, dude.
[13:51] What's your what's your time?
[13:53] What's your cycle time? About 40 seconds
right now. 40.
[13:55] Yeah. That's good.
Trying to get it a little bit quicker.
[13:57] But he only programmed it
for like a day or two ago— I mean, come on.
[14:02] Oh yeah, dude, you had no time to do it.
[14:03] Is it doing it right now?
[14:05] So it's going to roll tap it.
[14:06] Okay. So you are doing roll tapping.
[14:08] Is that a conveyor belt?
[14:09] How does the part feed out? Right after
this tool it’s going to shoot it out.
[14:14] There it is.
[14:16] That may bet the slowest part about it.
[14:18] Tyson, I'm so proud of you, dude.
Thank you.
[14:20] That's so good, dude.
[14:21] Tyson is Titan's son,
and he is incredible and incredibly smart.
[14:25] He programmed this machine in a very short
amount of time to bail us out here.
[14:31] And they made one in brass here and
videoed it so we can see what's going on.
[14:34] So first thing they do is they're parting
off the front face of the stock.
[14:39] Then they come in
and they drill a hole in the center.
[14:42] And then they deburr that.
[14:44] After that they come back over
and they do the outer profile of this.
[14:48] This is incredible.
Look at all those tools.
[14:50] Then they come back over and you can see
there's another little feature there.
[14:54] Not really sure what that is.
[14:55] Remember, this thing's a hexagon.
[14:57] There's a mill 90 degrees so they can make
the hex flats on the side.
[15:00] And then this dynamic
handoff to the other chuck
[15:03] or the other spindle is incredible...
come back over and
[15:07] they're they're cutting out the backside
there and then tapping it.
[15:10] Watch this.
[15:11] Forward spinning, backwards spinning.
[15:14] Isn't that amazing?
[15:15] Anyway, they come back
and then they deburr that thread.
[15:18] That's what we couldn't do here.
[15:19] And then after that's done
the part's done.
[15:21] They drop it off in this little conveyor
belt and it's incredibly awesome.
[15:26] And so as the show is going
on, we're just slowly accumulating
[15:30] these threaded inserts.
[15:32] And I took a whole bunch of plastic
[15:34] injection molded parts that
we had made out there.
[15:36] And people that went to
[15:37] the show were actually helping us
do American manufacturing on the spot.
[15:40] I see what you're doing.
[15:41] You're putting us to work without us
knowing. Right. Exactly.
[15:43] Oh, I'm being very clear
about what I'm doing.
[15:47] Congratulations, you’re an
American Manufacturer!
[15:51] They were inserting the metal threaded insert
into the injection molded part,
[15:55] and we had a final knob assembly ready to
ship off with every individual scrubber.
[16:01] Big thanks to Titans of CNC.
[16:02] They bailed us out.
They totally bailed us out.
[16:05] You kept John from having a heart attack.
Thank you guys.
[16:08] But while that was happening, the company
that actually makes that insert
[16:11] in engineering,
[16:13] they tooled up and they really got to
where they could produce it fast.
[16:16] And these are in America now.
[16:17] That's right.
They're made in North Carolina.
[16:19] North Carolina. Big deal.
[16:20] So now the knob is 100% made in America.
[16:23] And John, what do you say to a person
that has a Costa Rican knob
[16:27] that has the zinc coating?
This is stainless steel, right?
[16:30] That's right, that's right.
[16:31] So, yeah,
if you have the original Costa Rican knob
[16:33] that we thought were from Mississippi,
just, uh, we'll sell these at cost.
[16:38] We'll put a link on the website and
or a listing with the Smarter Scrubber.
[16:42] Just go to the scrubber page
and it'll be right there with it.
[16:44] And you can put one in your cart,
check out and we'll ship it to you.
[16:48] So you can have an American knob
with a stainless thread insert.
[16:51] The two things that I learned from trying
to make this little knob in America
[16:54] is that, number one, things are changing.
[16:57] Back in the day,
we CNC'd this whole mold to make it work.
[17:01] Today you can use metal 3D printing
technology to make the mold even faster.
[17:07] And that's awesome.
That's a really big deal.
[17:09] Makes your turnaround time on the mold
so much quicker.
[17:11] The second thing is: cycle
time is everything.
[17:14] If you have metal parts and you're doing
[17:16] CNC, you can do it in your garage,
[17:18] but onesies, twosies,
that's not going to do it.
[17:21] You've got to have something
that will go fast.
[17:24] And if you do that, you can save time,
save money, make more parts.
[17:28] It's a big deal.
[17:29] That cycle time being driven down to as
low as you can make it is very important.
[17:34] And that is exactly why
3D printing plastic
[17:37] is not the way,
because the cycle times are too high.
[17:40] You want injection molding
for the cycle times that are low.
[17:43] You want dedicated CNC setups
to make your cycle times low on the metal
[17:47] parts, and again, leverage metal
3D printing technology where you can.
[17:51] So one addendum to this whole knob
section is this project has started
[17:56] to resonate with a lot of people in places
I didn't expect.
[17:59] I was invited to a big thing
called the Hill and Valley Forum.
[18:03] It's people on Capitol Hill
and people in Silicon Valley.
[18:06] They're working together to try to think
about the future of manufacturing and just
[18:10] the economic trajectory of America.
[18:12] I actually got to go on stage,
and there were a lot of
[18:14] really influential people there
with a lot of money.
[18:17] And one of the things I really wanted
to tell them is you don't just flip
[18:20] a switch with money and start up the tool
and die industry in America again.
[18:25] It's a thing that you have to like,
there's a knowledge chain there.
[18:28] This is how I said it.
[18:29] So AI is fantastic,
but I have a really weird view that might,
[18:34] you might disagree with me.
[18:36] So you, you automate with robots, right?
[18:38] But at the end of that robot arm
to pick up this bottle, you have what
[18:42] you have an end effector
that is made by somebody in tool and die.
[18:46] Or if you have a progressive stamp tool,
that is a tool and die person, right?
[18:52] So when we made the video
about the Smarter Scrubber, between
[18:55] the moment I filmed the video
and the moment I released the video,
[19:00] a man named Roger
that was in the video died,
[19:04] and with him died.
[19:06] A lot of tool and die knowledge.
[19:09] So the thing that China has done
brilliantly is they've undercut
[19:13] the continuation of the tool
and die skilled trade in America.
[19:18] They're undercutting the tool.
[19:20] They're saying, hey, yeah, it
costs $60,000 to make the tool in America.
[19:22] We'll do it for 15 [thousand].
[19:24] So if they can break the intellect chain,
they beat us.
[19:28] And I think that's brilliant
and we're stupid for letting that happen.
[19:32] And so I think, I think if I was
your company right now, whatever you do,
[19:36] I would figure out who the wizard is
or the person at your company
[19:41] that knows the secret sauce
and give them an apprentice
[19:45] and just keep that knowledge
continuity going
[19:48] because I think that's very important.
AI is great.
[19:50] It's going to change so many things,
but ultimately it's going
[19:54] to be stamping and injection molding,
and we need to make the tools to do that.
[19:58] And my guess is
[19:59] you don't have somebody in your company
that's passing that knowledge on.
[20:03] And if you don't,
you need to feel urgency to do that.
[20:06] It is time to talk about this section,
which is the chain mail.
[20:11] Now, the story of this chain
mail is fascinating.
[20:13] And just to remind you,
in the end of the last video, I tried
[20:17] to buy chain mail supplied from not China.
[20:20] I tried to go to India.
[20:22] The person in India that supplied it to us
basically bought it from China
[20:27] and drop shipped it to us
and pretended that it was from India.
[20:31] So this is chain mail
that we haven't used in any assembly yet.
[20:36] This is from India.
[20:38] Dude, look at that.
[20:39] That's not from India.
[20:41] That's Chinese.
[20:43] Is that Chinese?
[20:45] Long story short, I was lied to.
[20:47] John was lied to.
We were irritated by that.
[20:49] I want to make something abundantly clear.
[20:52] We have never sold a grill scrubber
with Chinese chain mail on it.
[20:57] When we received that Chinese chain mail
from India,
[21:00] we put it in a box and we put it
in the corner of the warehouse
[21:03] and we're like,
we're not going to sell that.
[21:05] That's
against the whole premise of the project.
[21:07] We're trying to make it in America.
[21:09] So the question is, well,
where's our chain mail coming from?
[21:12] So we are the victim of something
that I recently learned about.
[21:16] It's a big fancy word.
[21:17] It's called a monopsony. Okay.
[21:21] This is why we are having a hard time
sourcing chain mail in America.
[21:26] And I need to explain this
because I recently learned about this
[21:29] at the Hill and Valley Forum.
[21:30] I learned a lot of things there.
[21:31] It's kind of like a monopoly,
only backwards.
[21:34] A monopoly is there's only one person
that can make the thing.
[21:39] A monopsony is there's only one person
that buys the thing,
[21:43] and this is what it does.
[21:44] It kind of flips
the whole economy on its head.
[21:47] So this is what happened.
[21:49] We wanted to buy chain mail in America.
[21:52] There is one factory in America
that makes the specific type of chain mail
[21:57] we want, and that one
factory has a contract with [censored].
[22:02] Okay?
[22:03] They said, well,
we have this surge of work from [censored].
[22:06] Because they are our most important
customer.
[22:11] We have this surge of work from [censored].
[22:12] So we're going to, we're going to do that.
[22:14] We only have enough manufacturing capacity
to supply them.
[22:17] Sorry.
[22:18] What do you do if you're in my situation?
[22:20] You panic.
[22:21] That's what you do.
[22:22] That's why we ordered
the chain mail from India.
[22:25] Here's the deal though: we didn't use it.
[22:27] The reason we didn't use
it is because immediately after that
[22:31] video dropped, we got a voicemail
from a company in Canada.
[22:36] Now, this company has been making chain
mail for years,
[22:40] and their story is very interesting.
[22:42] And it involves China as well.
[22:44] Okay, so I'm on a Zoom call
with Mason up at MailleTec in Canada.
[22:48] How's it going, Mason? Good.
How are you? Doing well, man.
[22:51] It's my understanding
that you were working
[22:53] with an American company
for many, many years.
[22:56] And then that American company,
[22:59] you were making some chain mail
for them for a product,
[23:02] and then that company went to China
to increase the profit margin.
[23:06] Is that what happened? Yeah, that's the
[23:09] short of it.
[23:11] And it's certainly accurate.
[23:13] Yeah.
[23:14] We had built up with them from,
[23:18] you know, a couple hundred units a week
or a month to
[23:22] thousands and thousands
a month, almost 10 [thousand].
[23:26] And then one day they just decided
it was the end of that.
[23:30] They went from ordering full-on
[23:33] to ordering nothing in the space
of a couple of days.
[23:37] That's a big deal.
[23:38] That's a huge deal.
[23:39] It was—
[23:41] It was one of the worst days
I've had as a business owner, for sure.
[23:46] Followed shortly by laying people off
and all of that.
[23:50] We were recovering from that,
but we still weren't
[23:55] back to full strength
when we were talking to you guys.
[23:58] The way you initially approached
[23:59] this, you said, hey,
we can make chain mail from American wire.
[24:03] And that was appealing to us
because at the time, we couldn't get chain
[24:06] mail fast enough from the single
American source that we had.
[24:10] And so your call was timed perfectly,
because it's my understanding
[24:15] not many people can make chain
mail, right?
[24:17] Yeah, there's a handful of companies
in the world.
[24:19] To the best of my knowledge, there's
[24:22] three in North
[24:23] America and only two that make the size
you need.
[24:27] Yeah, exactly.
[24:28] So John and I made a decision.
[24:30] We said
we're going to split up our orders,
[24:32] and we are going to start buying
chain mail from Canada.
[24:36] Now is the time when internet commenters
will race to the comment section and say,
[24:41] oh, Destin's a hypocrite
because he is okay with this chain mail
[24:45] being made in Canada,
which is technically North America,
[24:48] but for some reason he's
not okay with this knob being made in
[24:52] Costa Rica and Central America,
which is also kind of North America, right?
[24:56] What is the difference
in these two things?
[24:58] And why am I sleeping well at night
knowing I'm doing this?
[25:01] But I didn't sleep well at night
knowing that I was doing this.
[25:03] And the answer is,
I know the people that are doing this.
[25:07] We've talked.
[25:08] I know the conditions under
which they're working.
[25:11] I know they're not being exploited.
[25:13] In fact, I know
[25:14] this is providing for their families
and they are not being taken advantage of.
[25:18] I don't know that that's true here.
[25:20] I know that yes, whoever put that insert
into that injection molding machine,
[25:25] their families are being provided for,
[25:27] but I don't know
they're not being exploited.
[25:29] With every other component
of the scrubber, we know the person
[25:32] we got them from,
but we don't know that with the knobs.
[25:35] Do we even know
the knobs were made in Costa Rica?
[25:38] For all we know, they were made in China
and put in a box
[25:42] and labeled Made in Costa Rica
to get around some kind of tariff thing.
[25:45] I think one is more sustainable
and it's more kind to people.
[25:50] One is just about money and profit.
[25:53] These are two very different things.
[25:55] The reality is, ultimately, I want to
manufacture this wire here in Alabama.
[26:01] It's a very hard thing to do.
[26:02] We're still working on beating that
[26:05] and we're involving the Canadians
with that because they're the experts.
[26:08] And so any solution we get to here
is probably going to involve Mason
[26:12] and the team up there.
[26:13] So to be incredibly clear, we've
never sold any chain mail made in China.
[26:19] We are selling 100% US
scrubbers made in America.
[26:22] Everything you see
here, 100% made in America.
[26:25] The one exception is
when we can't get enough chain mail,
[26:29] we have it
woven in Canada from US melt wire.
[26:33] So the scrubbers are made in here
[26:34] and we keep the Canadian and the USA chain
mail physically separate.
[26:39] These are the Canadian chain mail heads
that are already built up
[26:43] and these are the American chain
mail heads.
[26:48] So you can see these are USA and
[26:54] these are Canadian.
[26:57] Okay.
[26:57] It's time to talk about the laser.
[26:59] Okay.
[27:00] This is our warehouse.
[27:01] These are scrubbers
that are fully assembled right
[27:04] through these doors in here.
[27:06] You can see
they are being assembled right now.
[27:10] Let me just show you that.
[27:12] What's up?
[27:12] Everybody wave.
[27:13] Hello. Making scrubbers.
[27:15] All right, so they're making scrubbers.
[27:17] So what I want to talk about right now
is the handle.
[27:22] Now, that stainless steel handle,
we get those from TNC Stamping.
[27:26] Okay. You'll
remember that from the earlier video.
[27:29] We're using what's called station tooling.
[27:32] We basically cut this piece of metal
out of a stainless steel plate.
[27:37] We then stamp it with station tooling.
[27:39] Now we have looked into ways to do
what's called a progressive stamp die.
[27:43] But the geometry requirements that we have
just don't make that feasible.
[27:47] So we're still using station tooling.
[27:49] And then after that we laze them.
[27:51] Now the laser process
has been a whole thing.
[27:54] So we have two locations on the scrubber
that we laze.
[27:57] The first one is the handle itself.
[27:59] We put Smarter Scrubber on there.
[28:01] Let me get that lanyard out of the way.
[28:03] We put Smarter Scrubber on there.
[28:04] But we also have this other section here
where we do Made in the USA.
[28:08] And this one says
chain mail made in Canada from USA wire.
[28:12] If it's a USA chain mail scrubber
then we say chain mail USA.
[28:17] But the act of lazing these things on
there was a technical challenge.
[28:22] We first started doing it with Chris
Robson.
[28:24] He was doing them one at a time
and that was great.
[28:26] We were contracting him to do it,
[28:28] but we quickly figured out
that that was going to be our bottleneck.
[28:31] So we bought two lasers
and we started doing it in-house.
[28:34] We would laze three at a time,
one of the scrubber, you know,
[28:38] the handle part.
[28:38] We'd laze that on one machine
and we would laze
[28:40] the Made in USA on the other machine.
[28:42] That was great,
but it was still our bottleneck.
[28:45] So I asked John,
I was like, John, this is my dream.
[28:49] Can we please make a machine,
like an automatic machine
[28:53] that will laze this,
an automatic laser machine?
[28:55] John, let me do it.
[28:56] He agreed.
[28:57] David Linderman
and I started looking at what we could do,
[29:00] and we tried to design a way
that we could laze these handles
[29:03] quicker, and we figured out
if we bought a 16 position
[29:06] indexing rotary stage,
that we could rotate,
[29:10] and we could present three scrubbers
at any time to the laser heads.
[29:16] This thing is awesome.
[29:17] The big challenge with how to do this is
how do you hold the scrubber so
[29:21] that you could present this to the laser
and then present that to the laser.
[29:25] So they're on two different sides
of the scrubber head.
[29:27] And mechanically
[29:29] we had to do like mechanical engineering
and figure out how to do that.
[29:33] So we ended up making these plastic posts,
I call them shuttles.
[29:38] And we figured out a way
to lay it out in CAD
[29:41] so that we could hold these scrubbers up
and present three handles
[29:46] at any one time to one
set— or to one laser head.
[29:50] And then David came up with the idea
of cleverly positioning another laser head
[29:54] so that we could hit both sides on
[29:57] one rotation of our laser
indexing machine, which is really cool.
[30:02] We then worked with a company called
Modern Machine Integrators.
[30:05] A guy named David Bronner
took the information that David Linderman
[30:08] and I had figured out,
and he made it a reality.
[30:11] But the day this thing rolled into
the warehouse was such a big day.
[30:16] Of course, the one piece that I made on
this thing is the one
[30:19] we're having problems with right now,
the 3D printed shuttle.
[30:22] We've been using this thing
for a couple of months
[30:24] now, and it's been a game changer.
[30:26] I want to show you how it works.
[30:27] Hey, Roger's the expert on the laser.
[30:29] Justin runs it sometimes too.
[30:31] You cool with the microphone? Not really.
[30:34] Not really.
[30:35] We're just jealous.
[30:36] I'm going to give him a show.
[30:37] Yeah. How us southern boys talk.
[30:39] So you start off by loading three blanks.
[30:48] So you've got two computers here.
[30:50] This is the machine controller.
[30:52] Yeah, that's the control screen.
[30:53] And this is the laser controller.
[30:55] It's got an auto-cycle.
[30:57] Oh, so once it has three parts present.
[31:00] There are three sensors in here. See,
they're red right now.
[31:02] But when you get three parts on there,
they turn green.
[31:05] Okay.
[31:06] And that tells the laser table
it can spin.
[31:09] But you have to be clear of the light
screen too.
[31:11] You have to be behind this. Yes.
[31:14] That's a safety switch.
[31:15] If anything's poked past this point,
[31:18] nothing works. Okay, okay.
[31:20] So you've got a laser for the USA,
is it this button right here? Yes.
[31:26] So you have
[31:27] the USA laser, and then you also have
the logo laser.
[31:31] Two different computers.
[31:33] Two different computers.
[31:33] You're running two different lasers. Yes.
[31:37] And then when it gets back
there and detects
[31:39] that there are three handles back there
at the laser, it'll start firing.
[31:43] So I think this next rotation
will start firing.
[31:47] Is it firing?
[31:48] It's firing.
[31:49] Okay.
[31:50] We've e-stopped the machine and I'm
[31:53] going to try to put this camera
[31:56] in here so that you can see this laser
[32:00] doing the logo
and that laser right there doing
[32:04] the Made in America part.
[32:17] We have this solid
[32:17] aluminum barrier
between the operator and both lasers.
[32:21] And the idea there is
we don't want laser energy to come out
[32:24] the front side of the machine at all,
[32:25] and everything on the sides is opaque
so that the operator's safe at all times.
[32:29] I know this is a pretty simple machine
in terms of industrial scale stuff,
[32:34] but it's really cool that we were able
to fund the creation of this.
[32:39] And it's a thing that we have now.
[32:41] It's really neat.
[32:42] It's like pushing forward manufacturing.
[32:44] And I like it. It's a simple machine.
[32:47] It's automated, it's really cool,
and there's a human operator
[32:51] that loads it and unloads it.
[32:52] Yeah, we could get a robot to do that.
[32:54] With the volumes that we're doing
right now, we don't need to do that.
[32:57] So I think it's pretty cool.
[32:59] Okay.
[33:00] Behind me sits a redneck masterpiece.
[33:03] You're going to love it.
[33:04] A long time ago,
I read a book called Seven Eves,
[33:07] and in that book they had
this device called the Perambulator.
[33:10] It took a bunch of parameters
and it balanced them so
[33:12] a satellite swarm in orbit
could be controlled.
[33:15] I'm going to modify the Perambulator
a bit for profit prioritization.
[33:19] I think you're really going to enjoy that.
[33:20] But first we need to hone in on what
we're trying to do with this video.
[33:25] The whole premise here
is, can we make a product
[33:28] in America and be competitive
in the market, right?
[33:32] And to do this we've looked at several
components of the scrubber here:
[33:35] We looked at the knob,
we talked about that.
[33:37] We talked about chain mail.
[33:38] Now, you might give me an asterisk
on the chain mail
[33:40] because we're making it in Canada.
[33:42] We're also making it in America.
[33:43] So I would argue
[33:45] we get the check mark here
because we know how to make it in America.
[33:48] But we think it's important for there
[33:50] to be two places in North America
that the West can make chain mail.
[33:54] So we're choosing to go to Canada.
[33:56] We like working with those guys.
Thank you, Canada.
[33:58] The third thing we did is
we worked on the laser machine.
[34:02] So these close-up views
of these three individual problems
[34:05] gives you an idea of how hard it is
to manufacture something in America.
[34:09] But what I want to do
now is zoom out, like big picture.
[34:13] I want you to look
at the systemic problems
[34:16] that might be happening with capitalism,
and we just want to talk about that.
[34:21] So I'm ready to reveal this.
Are you excited about this?
[34:23] I am.
[34:24] I love this thing. Voila.
[34:26] The profit perambu— No.
[34:29] The profit prioritization Perambulator,
I think that's what I call it.
[34:32] Let's look at this thing
and let's just start to play and explore.
[34:36] This thing is really fun.
[34:38] And you'll notice we have a lot of shapes
and stuff going on.
[34:41] So let's look down here.
[34:42] This is a star, and the star represents
product quality.
[34:47] You have five-star reviews and stuff.
[34:49] So that is a measure of how good
the product is.
[34:53] Up here, of course, we have profit,
because we are working
[34:57] within the context of capitalism.
[34:59] Profit is not always a bad thing.
[35:01] It gets a bad rap sometimes,
but profit is a really good signal
[35:05] that you can use
to make decisions in the marketplace.
[35:08] So profit's good.
[35:10] Another thing down here
is we have a person.
[35:12] Now this might be a stretch.
[35:14] I thought about making this the worker.
[35:16] I thought about making this the customer.
[35:17] But for now let's just call this societal
good.
[35:21] You have a good society and
people are happy when that person's happy.
[35:26] You'll also notice that we have this
triangle, which is pretty interesting.
[35:29] The triangle represents a business.
[35:32] Everything inside the dotted
triangle is a viable business.
[35:36] Everything outside the dotted
triangle is a business that has failed.
[35:40] You'll see this green trapezoid here?
[35:43] Now that represents
what I would say is like where I grew up.
[35:47] You had a healthy middle class.
[35:49] The middle class existed in a place
where the workers were happy,
[35:54] quality was good in
general, profits were not out of control.
[35:58] It was a good time.
[36:00] So the green trapezoid represents
like a good balance.
[36:05] Let's say it that way.
[36:06] Okay.
[36:06] If we look over here to this side,
you can see that we've got these three
[36:09] little squares, quality, profit, people,
and we can reprioritize them.
[36:14] And the position of these little things
[36:18] corresponds to where we are on
our business graph here, okay?
[36:23] Like we move a thing, this moves. Okay?
[36:25] So let's start.
[36:26] Let's say that I, an engineer—engineers
are known to be a little weird.
[36:32] I like making things, right?
[36:35] I like making things
from really cool materials.
[36:38] So if I were to run the company,
I would say, you know what, John?
[36:41] I think we really need
to make this out of a super alloy,
[36:45] niobium or “Fantastalloid”.
[36:47] We need to do something
[36:48] that will never break
because I like really high quality stuff.
[36:52] So what I might do if I were in control
of things is I might say, you know what?
[36:55] We're going to take
[36:56] the quality of the product
and we're going to run it to the max.
[37:00] We're going to run it to the max.
[37:01] And I would immediately run myself
[37:04] out of business
because I would not make a profit.
[37:07] Look at this. No profit.
[37:09] The business is outside
of the dotted line.
[37:12] We are no longer a viable business.
[37:15] I would do that because I think—I mean,
if I could still feed my family.
[37:19] I think super alloys are cool.
[37:21] All right.
[37:21] So let's look at another CEO.
[37:23] This is a second CEO.
[37:25] This person's like the best person
to work for in the world.
[37:28] He really likes
the fact that you like to fish.
[37:31] And he really wants you
to afford that new bass boat.
[37:34] So he pays you a lot of money. He's like,
you know what?
[37:37] I really like my buddy here.
[37:38] I want this guy to make a lot of money.
[37:41] So he starts paying you more than you
perhaps might need to be paid.
[37:45] And he's like, you know what,
[37:46] I also really want you to compete
in that bass tournament.
[37:49] I'm going to let you off at about
one o'clock every day.
[37:52] Pretty soon things are out of whack
and you are no longer a viable business.
[37:58] He did not take the time
to balance things.
[38:00] Of course, these are absurd examples,
but you get the idea.
[38:03] Okay, now we have the third CEO.
[38:06] Now this person is all about the money.
[38:10] This person has started a business
that makes a grill scrubber, for example.
[38:15] And he's got a product that's viable.
[38:17] It's a good balance
[38:18] between quality and people,
but like it's not making a lot of profit.
[38:22] But then this person that gets in
the director's chair says, you know what?
[38:25] We really need to make more money.
[38:27] And the way I think we can do
that is instead of using this 304
[38:31] stainless steel or 303
(or whatever it is)... instead of using that,
[38:34] I think we can use a lower quality
alloy that we can source from overseas.
[38:39] And what we'll do is we'll
[38:41] just make our profit go up.
[38:42] And look at that.
[38:43] Our quality went down, went further away
from that, but our profit went up.
[38:47] That's good, right? Okay.
[38:48] So we’re— we’re right here in the sweet spot.
[38:50] People still love us. Everything's great.
[38:52] But if you look at this, there's
still profit to be had in the system here.
[38:56] Look at this gap here.
[38:57] So what we could do
is we've got these workers here.
[39:00] What if we paid the workers less?
[39:02] In fact, let's not even hire
permanent workers anymore.
[39:05] Let's hire contract employees,
give them no future in the company,
[39:09] just temporary workers.
[39:10] Yeah, let's do that.
[39:11] So let's just push our profits up
even higher.
[39:13] Yeah, we can start exploiting people.
[39:15] Look at that.
[39:16] Oh, man.
[39:17] Look.
[39:17] Now our quality and our people,
they're meh.
[39:21] But still, look at our profit, man.
[39:23] We are so much—man, this is great.
[39:26] The shareholder value
is going through the roof.
[39:28] This is fantastic.
[39:30] But can we do more?
[39:31] Are there more things we can do?
[39:32] I know—
[39:33] Let's just move the whole operation
overseas.
[39:36] Let's quit doing this long-term
thinking thing.
[39:38] Let's think short-term.
[39:39] And look at that.
[39:40] Oh, man alive.
[39:42] Look at all this profit we have made.
[39:45] We have run right up into a maximum
profit business
[39:50] that has what I will call
wedged itself up into the profit crotch.
[39:55] This is the most profit
you can get out of a company
[39:59] without poking through the other side
and ticking people off.
[40:02] And this is why almost every product
you have that you've loved
[40:06] has eventually become
a crappier version of itself.
[40:10] Because what happens—this was written
about by a guy named Cory Doctorow.
[40:14] He has a word
[40:14] that I'm not going to say here,
but I'll just call it encrappification.
[40:18] The encrappification of a digital product,
in his case, is what he was explaining.
[40:22] But I think it applies
to physical products as well.
[40:25] What happens is: at some point
you capture the market,
[40:29] and then the game just becomes profit
extraction.
[40:31] The motivation changes, and you
no longer care about how good the quality
[40:35] of the product is or the people
or how it affects your community even.
[40:39] You just want to maximize profit.
[40:41] And that's how you end up making things
that hurt people.
[40:46] Or that just aren't good.
[40:47] That's why a lot of times
we don't have good options in stores.
[40:51] It's because the minimum viable product
[40:54] that will extract profit from me
is produced and put in front of me,
[40:58] and as long as I continue
buying it, the cycle continues.
[41:01] But let's say that
this Scrooge McDuck of a
[41:05] CEO goes a little too far and says,
you know what?
[41:08] There's even more profit to be had here.
[41:10] What if I can make
my manufacturing processes even cheaper?
[41:15] I don't even know the glue
or how they're melting that in.
[41:18] What if we just don't do quality control
or whatever?
[41:20] I don't even know how it happened.
[41:22] Boom.
[41:22] Suddenly you pop right through the profit
crotch and you poke out the other side.
[41:28] And congratulations, you just made
a grill scrubber that hurts people.
[41:33] And you have to
withdraw millions of scrubbers
[41:37] from product shelves
because you are hurting people.
[41:40] That is a real thing that happens.
[41:43] And I want to show
you kind of how we started.
[41:45] Let me adjust the Perambulator here.
[41:47] So John and I, when we started doing this
scrubber, we kind of started here.
[41:52] We had a super high quality product.
[41:55] It was really good.
People really enjoy it.
[41:57] This is where we're at,
but we've made process
[42:00] optimization decisions
that is now changing the profit game.
[42:05] And so we're looking at this big picture
question, right?
[42:07] Let's go talk to John at JJ George,
which is where we sell the Smarter
[42:11] Scrubber from.
[42:12] Let's go see what John has to say
about the decisions in the near future.
[42:15] Okay. John obviously is the business
part of all this.
[42:18] He knows the business side.
[42:19] I just do the engineering stuff—
so we can make these things cheaper now.
[42:24] That's right, that's right.
[42:25] That means more profit, right? Yes, yes.
[42:27] And we didn't know that
originally when we got into this.
[42:31] We kind of
[42:32] got forced into buying out the injection
molding company, but we weren't forced,
[42:36] but our, Chris who had helped us
a ton was retiring and we wound up
[42:39] buying his machines and luckily
he helped us use his knowledge.
[42:44] But in doing that,
[42:46] we really saved a lot of money
that we didn't know we could save.
[42:48] And then so there was that,
and then there was the laser machine.
[42:52] And then Destin has an idea
[42:53] to make this laser machine,
which I had serious doubts about.
[42:58] I loved it, man.
[42:58] I was excited about the laser machine.
[43:00] I was like, I don't know, I don't know.
And the guys weren't sure about it.
[43:03] And because we're doing them on lasers
and they were pretty fast.
[43:07] We just load it.
[43:08] We had a system.
[43:09] And so we get this machine.
[43:10] We didn't know if it was going to work,
[43:12] and we get this thing in here
and we're doing them three times as fast.
[43:16] And that is awesome. Yeah.
[43:19] Thank you for letting me do it.
[43:20] So, so what do you do with the profit— yacht,
right?
[43:24] It's yacht time.
You're going to buy a yacht for yourself.
[43:25] Well, it's between a yacht or, or
[43:30] we can just make the scrubber cheaper
and sell more of them in the long run.
[43:33] And I think, and I think that's also
another path to the yacht
[43:39] by staying in business.
[43:41] But, anyway. Yes.
[43:42] So, so when we look at the long-term,
of course,
[43:48] if Destin's making videos,
we're going to sell a lot of products,
[43:50] but that's not going to last forever.
[43:51] I can't, I can't make Smarter Every Day
the chain mail grill scrubber channel.
[43:56] I just don't want to do that.
Right. It's not, yeah, it's not fair.
[43:58] And this is a product
that it's a good product.
[44:01] We're going to have it at a good price
and we just need to run it
[44:05] like a normal business.
[44:06] We need to pay for advertising and
[44:10] make a quality product at a good price.
[44:13] And I think the rest
will take care of itself.
[44:15] I have noticed that most people come
about figuring this thing out
[44:19] because somebody tells them about it.
And we can tell too.
[44:21] We can look at the analytics and,
you know, a
[44:24] normal product is a 3% conversion
rate's pretty good.
[44:27] And the scrubber has
[44:31] run at about 8% over time.
[44:32] So that means 8% of the people coming to
the website are buying a scrubber,
[44:36] which is insanely high.
[44:37] But that also means
that people are looking for the scrubber.
[44:40] So somebody told them about it
[44:42] and they are coming to look for it
when, when they buy it.
[44:45] Okay, so my model isn't perfect
because John explained that our profits
[44:50] were going up even though we didn't
sacrifice the quality or our community.
[44:55] In fact,
we were able to help somebody retire.
[44:58] But I want to look more closely
[45:01] at what John's doing
because this is fascinating.
[45:04] We're getting back
into like school microeconomics.
[45:08] And I think it's fascinating.
[45:10] Like, I'm getting to live this.
[45:11] You learn something in school
and then you live it. It's very different.
[45:14] This is the supply and demand curve.
[45:17] And so the supply is here. Okay.
[45:19] So as the price goes up, more
people want to produce the thing, right?
[45:24] This is the demand curve.
[45:26] As the price goes down, more
people want to buy the thing.
[45:29] The situation
we find ourselves in is crazy
[45:32] because these companies literally
said, we're going to decrease the supply
[45:36] of grill scrubbers on the market
because we're going to recall them.
[45:40] And when we do that, the price goes up.
[45:44] So like the natural price in the market
for grill scrubbers went up.
[45:48] But not only that,
now more people need grill scrubbers
[45:51] and so that pushes the demand this way.
[45:55] So the price is just going up.
[45:57] So it was here. And like now it's here.
[46:00] That is crazy.
[46:02] But but what John is saying
is opposite to that.
[46:05] So if the market can now bear
with a bigger price,
[46:08] and if you haven't priced grill scrubbers
in a while, do so.
[46:10] It's going up.
[46:12] John's saying this:
[46:13] He's making a different bet.
[46:14] He's got a different curve in mind.
[46:17] This is the profit optimization curve.
[46:20] Something I didn't know about.
[46:21] But what he's saying is he's saying, okay,
well the way this works is
[46:26] there is a price
that we were operating at.
[46:28] So we were at a high price here.
[46:30] We were making profit here. Right.
[46:33] But overall, like you could sell
more scrubbers at a lower price.
[46:38] And ultimately
that will mean a higher profit overall.
[46:43] So you sell more quantity
at a lower price,
[46:48] and that means the area under
the curve goes up.
[46:51] So this is profit optimization, right?
[46:53] This is doing it right.
[46:55] The fact that I asked the question,
can you make a product
[47:00] in America
and be competitive in the market?
[47:03] That is insane.
[47:05] Why was I even to the point
where I could ask that question?
[47:09] But I think looking at this now,
understanding the types of decisions
[47:13] that John's making now,
the answer is unequivocally yes.
[47:17] Like,
not only is it a thing that's possible,
[47:20] it's a thing more people should be doing.
[47:23] And the reason we got into this
in the first place
[47:26] is if we go back to this thing
[47:28] and we start to look at it
and think about it,
[47:30] the natural progression of just extracting
as much as you can
[47:35] without regard to quality
or your community, the natural progression
[47:40] is to send the means of production
somewhere else
[47:44] and basically gut your local community
and their ability to produce things.
[47:49] And so I think what
I've learned through this whole thing,
[47:53] I wanted to know if I could make
something in America because I'm
[47:56] an engineer, and
I thought this was a technical problem.
[48:00] It's not a technical problem.
[48:02] This is an ethical problem.
[48:04] If greed takes over
and you have people at the top that,
[48:09] I want to use strong language.
[48:10] They're not good people.
[48:12] Ultimately, that trickles down in a way
that trickle-down
[48:16] economics that I was promised
when I was in school doesn't.
[48:20] You trickle the encrappification
down to all of society and it's horrible.
[48:25] So what really needs to change
is this short-term thinking
[48:29] where I just gut my local community
in the name of profit.
[48:34] We need to change that
and start thinking about long-term.
[48:36] What does it look like to have
an injection molder in my community?
[48:41] What does it look like to just
[48:44] have a good product on the shelf
where I live?
[48:47] That's the kind of thing
we need to think about.
[48:50] That long-term thinking looks like
[48:53] it's foolish in the short-term,
but it's not.
[48:57] John is thinking about
how to make more money, and he's doing it
[49:01] with classical profit optimization
economics now,
[49:05] and all we had to do was stop
thinking in the short-term.
[49:10] I feel things about this.
[49:12] I will say this.
[49:13] I ended the last video with a pitch to try
to convince people to buy this thing.
[49:19] Now I have data.
[49:20] I understand what people feel when
they have one because now we've sold them.
[49:25] So I'll do another pitch,
but it's going to be shorter.
[49:28] I'm going to try to tell you why
I genuinely think
[49:32] The Smarter Scrubber
will be good for your life.
[49:36] But I first want to acknowledge
how crazy this story got.
[49:39] The goal was to make something in America.
[49:41] It got much bigger than that.
[49:43] I started to understand
why American capitalism does
[49:46] what it does sometimes and pushes
the means of production somewhere else.
[49:49] I really enjoyed getting to learn that.
[49:52] And thank you to everybody
that bought one after the first video,
[49:55] because you taught me that
and it's really fun.
[49:58] So I'm going to try to convince
you in two different ways.
[50:02] First of
[50:02] all, I just want to acknowledge
this might be a negative way,
[50:05] but I do want to acknowledge
that at the beginning of this video,
[50:09] I told you there were 13.4 million
[50:12] wire bristle grill brushes
that had been recalled in America.
[50:15] And if you are using a wire bristle grill
brush on your grill, please stop.
[50:20] You don't have to get The Smarter
Scrubber.
[50:22] Just don't use these wire
bristle grill brushes.
[50:25] Okay.
[50:25] So whether it's like balled up
aluminum foil
[50:28] or an onion or a piece of wood,
just don't use the wire bristles.
[50:32] Okay.
[50:32] Since I started this video,
[50:34] another 1.7 million wire bristle
grill brushes have been recalled.
[50:38] Like I started filming this a month ago
and so it's still happening.
[50:43] So you need something else, okay?
[50:45] Do something else.
[50:46] This is why I want to make the case
for The Smarter Scrubber.
[50:49] There's this thing that this guy named
C.S. Lewis talks about.
[50:51] He says the place that God wants you—
that's just too much.
[50:55] I'll just say it— Okay:
[50:56] the place that a human needs to be is
they need to build a cathedral.
[51:01] This is way too much.
[51:03] Look at the cathedral
[51:04] and be like, man, I'm just really glad
that cathedral exists.
[51:07] Okay? I don't care that I built it.
[51:09] That's kind of where I'm at with this.
[51:11] I don't care that I made this.
[51:14] What I do care about is that we are
injection molding in America,
[51:19] and I care that the, you know, the guys
at TNC Stamping are making this handle.
[51:24] I care that somebody in Wisconsin
is making that sticker.
[51:28] And I just really care that people
[51:31] are making this chain mail
and it's all happening.
[51:35] And my community
is getting better for it.
[51:37] Okay. So this helps society.
[51:40] Okay.
[51:40] You have a good option on the market.
[51:44] Another thing I want to say is that
I think
[51:47] this is the highest quality grill scrubber
you can buy with money today.
[51:52] I mean that.
[51:53] And I'm not just saying it
because I made it.
[51:55] Because people on the internet,
in the comments,
[51:57] a lot of people have a problem
with the price.
[52:00] And if you look, these are people
that haven't purchased it.
[52:03] People that have purchased this thing
and they hold it in their hands,
[52:06] they no longer complain about price.
[52:08] They know that this is a medieval weapon,
and they can do harm to anybody
[52:13] that would threaten their family
if they need to.
[52:15] Another thing is we've sold
a lot of these things now
[52:18] so we know what people think about them.
[52:20] I asked people
[52:21] that had the Smarter Scrubber, like,
what do you think about it?
[52:24] And a lot of people sent me some videos
[52:25] and they said different things
they like about it.
[52:27] So I live on the Georgia coast
and everything down here rusts,
[52:30] but there is no rust on this thing.
[52:31] Up here in British Columbia, Canada.
My dad got one.
[52:34] I got one and I got one for my brother.
This is how I like to use it.
[52:38] Take the handle off.
[52:39] That can really get into the edges
and the grooves really nicely.
[52:43] It doesn't get caught on my back hair.
[52:46] Thanks, Destin,
for making this in America.
[52:48] Makes me proud.
[52:48] We have a video of a bear
stealing one off of somebody's porch.
[52:52] I think that's awesome.
[52:53] I want to tell you that it's bear proof,
but we didn't find it afterwards.
[52:57] So we don't know if it's bear proof.
[52:58] I'm assuming it's bear proof
and it smelled good.
[53:01] That's why the bear went for it.
[53:02] One of the things I like about it
is that you can take this thing off
[53:06] and you can use it like on your cast iron.
[53:08] Oh, I dropped the American-made knob.
[53:10] You can use this on the cast
iron in your sink.
[53:13] You can also spray it off with a water
hose.
[53:16] You can clean it with a water hose.
You can throw it in the dishwasher.
[53:18] It's a really high quality tool.
[53:20] And I think once you get it in your hands,
you're really going to understand it.
[53:23] Question comes up a lot is
can you use it on a hot grill?
[53:26] The silicone is rated at 300
something degrees.
[53:28] So yeah, you can use it on a hot grill.
[53:30] Don't melt it. Like use common sense.
[53:33] Another thing that people said is they
said, hey, the grill is flat
[53:37] and that chain mail is flat.
[53:38] And so I can only get
the top of the grill.
[53:40] Well, this is my fault.
[53:41] I wasn't clear about this
when I explained it earlier.
[53:44] That's why I designed this little radius
right here, because you can
[53:48] tilt it up on its edge and you can get in
between those grill grates
[53:52] and it works really well.
[53:54] And if you have any of those little burnt
danglies off the rails,
[53:57] that's what this front part's for.
[53:58] You rock it up
and you can hook underneath there
[54:00] and you can just pop them right off.
[54:01] So this thing will clean your grill.
[54:04] It's very, very sturdy.
[54:06] Like this is stainless steel.
[54:08] The threads are stainless steel.
[54:09] This is not the typical thing
you buy in the store.
[54:11] As an American consumer, it's
nothing like this.
[54:15] This is built so that hopefully
you'll end up giving this to your kids.
[54:20] Okay. How did I do on the pitch?
[54:21] If you are interested
in getting a Smarter Scrubber,
[54:25] you can do that at SmarterScrubber.com.
[54:28] We sell direct to consumer through JJ
George.
[54:31] We're shipping all over the world now,
[54:32] so check to see
if your country is supported.
[54:35] And we would be grateful
if you would consider this.
[54:38] We do not sell on Amazon for reasons
[54:41] we outlined in the first video,
just through JJ George.
[54:45] We have inventory.
[54:46] We hope to be able to fulfill
this really quick.
[54:48] If we do run out,
we'll put on back order on there
[54:52] and we now have the means
of production in-house.
[54:55] So hopefully we can get them out to
you really, really quick.
[54:58] I am grateful for your consideration,
[55:01] and I'm grateful that you guys are going
along on this little ride with us.
[55:04] It's really interesting.
Anyway, that's it.
[55:07] I'm Destin.
You're getting Smarter Every Day.
[55:09] Thank you for considering
going to SmarterScrubber.com.
[55:12] Have a good one. Bye.
[55:14] Okay.
[55:14] And if you look really—[lightning strike]
[55:16] Whoa.
[55:19] Whoa.
[55:20] That hit like outside.
[55:23] Okay. I think we're good.
[55:24] I think we're still going.