DISPENZA SAYS MEDITATION REWRITES GENES AND KILLS CANCER CELLS

迪斯彭扎称冥想可改写基因并杀死癌细胞 持续的心脑同频通过使身体从压力诱导的求生模式转变为量子级疗愈状态，从而抑制疾病并改写基因程序。 乔·迪斯彭扎（Joe Dispenza）博士解释了为何75%至90%的就医需求源于压力，以及人们如何对植根于过往创伤的情绪模式产生依赖成瘾。通过运用心脑同频、元认知以及特定的冥想技巧，人们可以将脑波调整为阿尔法（alpha）、西塔（theta）和伽马（gamma）状态，以重写潜意识程序。讨论重点介绍了相关研究，显示深度冥想状态能改变生物标志物、下调疾病并触发细胞修复，其效果远超常规药物。最终，迪斯彭扎强调，改变内在情绪状态能让人们克服受害者心态，从内在完整圆满的状态中进行创造，并在身体与生活中实现真实的转变。 西方75%至90%的就医需求源于压力，主要由人们对皮质醇和肾上腺素等压力激素成瘾所驱动。 (0:00) 乔·迪斯彭扎博士正与加州大学圣迭戈分校（UC San Diego）、哈佛大学和斯坦福大学等机构合作，建立关于冥想与身心联结的科学数据库。 (0:00) 在深陷低频情绪时剖析过往创伤会导致大脑过度觉醒，并强化与旧身份绑定的神经回路。 (6:57) 心脏同频会向大脑发出安全信号，让情绪电荷从过往记忆中剥离，并将其转化为具有实际作用的智慧。 (11:59) 到了中年，一个人大约95%的身份认同由潜意识程序构成，而这些程序可以通过元认知来观察和改变。 (17:23)

Dr. Joe Dispenza argues that chronic stress and habitual emotional conditioning trap the human body in persistent survival states that trigger physical illness, but deliberate meditation and heart-brain coherence can systematically rewire biology and gene expression. The Physiology of Chronic Stress and Emotional Addiction (0:00) Dispenza claims that between 75% and 90% of Western healthcare visits stem directly from psychological or emotional stress. When individuals repeatedly recount past trauma, the brain releases identical biochemical stress hormones—such as cortisol and adrenaline—as if the crisis were actively occurring. Because these survival chemicals produce a potent physiological surge, people can become neurochemically addicted to negative emotional states, subconsciously maintaining toxic relationships, volatile work environments, or distressing news habits to feed that chemical baseline. This continuous activation of the fight-or-flight response dysregulates the autonomic nervous system and downregulates genes toward disease. Furthermore, Dispenza notes that research suggests approximately 50% of the narrative details people recount about past events are inaccurate, meaning individuals frequently subject their physiology to prolonged distress over memories that never transpired as remembered. Neurological Mechanics of Heart-Brain Coherence (11:59) To counter chronic stress, Dispenza explains how brain and heart rhythms can be deliberately synchronized. Sustained survival mode drives the brain into high-frequency beta waves characterized by hyper-focused, fragmented analytical thinking. By learning to broaden attention to open space, individuals quiet the brain's default mode network and transition into slower, synchronized alpha and theta brainwave states. Theta opens the boundary to the subconscious mind, which Dispenza asserts governs approximately 95% of an adult's automated behaviors, attitudes, and emotional reflexes by mid-life. Simultaneously, sustaining elevated feelings like gratitude and love establishes heart coherence. Dispenza describes a cascade where heart coherence stimulates oxytocin and nitric oxide release, dilating cardiac blood vessels and signaling safety to the brain. This physiological reset allows individuals—including combat veterans with severe post-traumatic stress disorder—to detach survival charges from past memories, turning historical trauma into functional wisdom. Empirical Biological Shifts from Meditation Dispenza cites data from collaborative studies with research institutions to argue that meditative practices create measurable epigenetic and biological improvements without pharmaceuticals or dietary interventions. In one referenced trial, participants practicing elevated emotional states for three days showed a 50% increase in salivary Immunoglobulin A (IgA), the body’s primary mucosal immune defense. Additional laboratory tests on blood drawn from meditators after week-long retreats indicated cellular resistance to viral entry, suppression of cancer cell metabolic functions, and positive gut microbiome shifts. At collective levels, Dispenza reports that around 80% of participants across a seven-day retreat demonstrated convergent gene expression and protein manufacturing despite diverse individual genotypes. Comparing these findings to conventional pharmaceutical trials, which he notes typically demonstrate roughly a 25% efficacy rate over several months, Dispenza argues that the autonomic nervous system functions as an internal pharmacy capable of yielding higher response rates when individuals sustain coherent states. Rewriting Identity and Creating from Wholeness (88:00) A central premise of Dispenza’s approach is that lasting transformation requires dismantling an existing personality to form a new reality. Conventional manifestation typically operates in a matter-to-matter paradigm, where individuals act from a sense of lack and seek external objects or accomplishments to alleviate an internal void. In contrast, Dispenza advocates creating from emotional wholeness, generating the internal emotional feeling of an outcome before physical validation occurs. By systematically withdrawing attention from physical sensation, external environments, and linear time, an individual enters a state of pure consciousness. Within this state, Dispenza posits that thoughts act as an electrical charge while coherent emotions provide a magnetic pull within the broader quantum field. Rehearsing new behaviors mentally builds the physical neurological pathways in the brain before encountering future events, turning conscious intentions into automatic software. Dispenza positions human transformation as an accessible biological science rather than mysticism, arguing that mastering the mind allows individuals to overcome chronic pathology and emotional suffering. However, both Dispenza and host Steven Bartlett recognize that the primary practical barrier remains consistency: individuals easily slip back into familiar stress patterns when returning home, making sustained daily discipline necessary to prevent biological relapses into old identities.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 在访谈中主张，人体长期沉溺于由过去创伤引发的慢性压力，会导致自主神经系统失调并诱发器质性病变。他提出，通过有意识的心脑协调冥想重塑思维与情绪基线，能够打破对压力激素的生理成瘾，进而激发人体内在的自愈机制并产生可测量的生物学改变。 慢性压力成瘾与创伤记忆的生理陷阱 (0:00) Dispenza 指出，西方医疗机构中约 75% 至 90% 的就诊直接源于情绪或心理压力。当人体长期处于应激生存模式时，肾上腺素与皮质醇等压力激素持续激增，机体会逐渐对这种神经化学冲动产生依赖，甚至在潜意识中主动寻求冲突、有毒人际关系或负面新闻来维持熟悉的生理状态。由于大脑仅凭思维就能触发与真实危险完全相同的生化级联反应，反复回忆或叙述过往创伤，相当于让身体每天经历数十次生化警报，使潜意识完全被锚定在过去的痛苦中。 相关研究显示，人们对过往经历的回忆有约 50% 的细节并不真实，这意味着许多人实际上是在为一个失真的过去反复消耗生理资源。Dispenza 强调，传统心理治疗若仅停留在反复咀嚼创伤细节，往往会进一步加固束缚旧身份的神经回路。若要打破这种生理循环，个体必须借助元认知觉察自动化的潜意识程序，用爱、感激与宽恕等更高维度的情绪取代恐惧与怨恨，从而剥离记忆中的负面情绪电荷，将痛苦经历转化为客观的生存智慧。 脑波调控与心脑协调的神经生物学机制 (11:59) 人类在步入中年后，约 95% 的身份认同已固化为自动化的潜意识程序、习惯性行为和情绪反射。Dispenza 解释称，日常处于高度分析与焦虑状态的人群，其大脑主要受高频 Beta 波主导，且负责预测危险的默认模式网络（DMN）过度活跃。通过冥想练习打破对环境、身体和时间的狭隘聚焦，脑电波能够逐渐减缓并进入同步的 Alpha 波状态，削弱内在批判声音。当进一步放松并进入 Theta 波时，显意识与潜意识的屏障被打开，个体得以直接重构神经通路，重写自主神经系统的生物底层。 在此过程中，将注意力集中于心区并唤起正面情绪，能够引发“心脑协调”（Heart Coherence）。此时心脏呈现出高度规律的心率变异节奏，催产素水平上升并刺激一氧化氮释放，促使冠状动脉血管舒张，并向大脑发送危险已解除的生理信号。这种状态促使大脑各区域进行相干放电，并进一步激发极高振幅的 Gamma 脑电波。扫描显示此时脑神经能量可超出常态基线数百个标准差，使机体从生存防御模式全面切换为深度修复模式。 超越匮乏感：从量子场视角重塑现实 (34:23) Dispenza 认为，大多数人在三维物质世界中习惯于从“匮乏感”出发进行创造，即通过看到自身缺乏某种外在成果而付出劳动，试图通过外部获得来暂时缓解内在的分离与空虚。然而，如果个体的内在基线始终处于缺乏与受害者心态，其神经系统便会本能地排斥任何与当前情绪不匹配的正面信息，导致陷入“等待外部改变来让自己感觉变好”的被动死循环。 他援引量子理论阐述其创造机制：思想承载着向能量场发射的电信号，而提升的情绪则构成吸引潜能的磁场。真正的转变要求个体在外部条件尚未发生变化之前，先在内在产生完整感与感激。通过在冥想中放下自身的社会角色、身体属性与时间感，成为“无名、无物、无处、无时”的纯粹意识，个体便能直接与底层的能量频率连接。当内在的频率与潜在的未来相匹配时，便能摆脱在时空中单向施力的物质消耗，自然地将机遇与共时性事件吸引至现实生活。 自主神经系统的内在药房与群体实证 为证明心智自愈并非伪科学，Dispenza 团队联合哈佛、斯坦福及加州大学圣地亚哥分校等机构展开生物标记物研究。数据显示，受试者在仅进行了 3 天的心灵聚焦与提升情绪练习后，体内抵御病毒黏膜感染的关键抗体——免疫球蛋白 A（IgA）的浓度平均跃升了 50%，表明主观情绪状态能够先于外部环境触发有益的表观遗传表达。 更深入的血液学检测显示，深度冥想者的血清在体外实验中能够有效阻断类似 SARS-CoV-2 的假病毒侵入细胞，并在 7 天内显著下调癌细胞的糖酵解与线粒体能量代谢，同时大幅重塑肠道微生物菌群。在为期 7 天的密集冥想营中，近 80% 的参会者呈现出相同的基因上调与蛋白质合成收敛现象，表现出超越个体基因型的群体生物协同性。Dispenza 指出，常规药物临床试验在数月内的有效率通常在 25% 左右，而通过调动人体自身的神经化学“药房”，75% 至 100% 的学员展现出了显著的生理及生化指标好转。 Dispenza 试图将神经可塑性、表观遗传学与量子观念相整合，构建一套摆脱慢性疾病与心理创伤的自愈范式。然而，访谈中所提及的自愈效果远超常规药物、抗癌及抗病毒等惊人实证，多依托其团队自建数据库及内部工作坊学员样本，尚未经过严苛的外部双盲随机对照试验及主流临床医学的同行评议。对于面临严重器质性病变的个体而言，在实践此类身心调节方法的同时，仍需理性权衡现代循证医疗干预的不可替代性。

## Background 本期节目由知名商业访谈频道《The Diary Of A CEO》（主持人 Steven Bartlett）于 2025 年 3 月 13 日在 YouTube 平台发布。节目邀请了研究员兼畅销书作家 Joe Dispenza 博士，围绕其开发的转化公式展开对话，探讨如何剥离迷信并运用神经科学与生物学工具，摆脱恐惧与焦虑、激发潜能并实现身心自愈。 ## TL;DR 访谈深入剖析了现代人对压力荷尔蒙与创伤记忆的生理成瘾机制，指出 95% 的潜意识程序和受害者身份认同常将机体长期禁锢于病态生存模式之中。Dispenza 博士强调，单纯的心理顿悟无法改变行为，改变的关键在于通过心脑相干性冥想超越环境、身体与时间的限制，将脑波导入 Theta 与高相干 Gamma 状态。通过在现实显化前让身体提前体验到丰盛与感恩的情绪，个体能够重置神经基准线、调控基因表达并大幅提升免疫力，在量子场层面完成从匮乏到圆满的根本跃迁。 ## Atmosphere & style 整场对话兼具前沿神经生物学的理性严谨与超验灵性探索的磅礴感染力，基调真诚、透彻且极具赋权感。主持人 Steven Bartlett 结合个人亲密关系创伤与伴侣的真实蜕变展开层层追问，与 Dispenza 博士循序渐进、直击核心的系统阐述形成高度共鸣。收听过程如同经历一场层层剥离认知枷锁的心智震荡，既有直面潜意识借口的冷峻警醒，亦有见证普通人重塑生命奇迹时的深切震撼与从容释然。 ## Bulletin - [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=0s) 西方医疗门诊中75%至90%的就诊直接由情绪与心理压力诱发，现代人对压力荷尔蒙产生的生理成瘾使机体长期处于超负荷紧急状态，成为器质性病变的根源。 - [01:01:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=3697s) 临床监测显示，受试者在连续3天停止体验生存情绪并专注培育崇高情绪后，体内天然免疫防线IgA抗体水平平均激增50%，表明内在意识调控能够领先于外在环境向基因传递修复信号。 - [01:20:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=4833s) 针对高级冥想者的生化分析发现，84%的超验体验者血液具备抑制癌细胞线粒体代谢和糖酵解功能的信号分子，且血液特异性分离蛋白能在体外实验中有效阻断病毒侵入细胞。 - [01:22:22](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=4942s) 在为期7天的沉浸式冥想静修营中，近80%的新手受试者在无外部新刺激的封闭环境下展现出完全相同的基因上调与蛋白质合成，呈现出生理层面的群体突现意识与集体进化。 ## Key takeaways - [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=0s) 压力荷尔蒙的生理成瘾机制：现代人习惯通过有毒关系、职场冲突或负面新闻反复刺激皮质醇分泌，以维持身体对压力生化状态的熟悉依赖，最终拖垮免疫与自愈机能。 - [08:51](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=531s) 创伤身份认同与自传体记忆偏差：认知科学证实个体记忆中有高达50%存在事实偏差，日复一日在脑海中反刍旧痛苦只是在潜意识中将肉体训练为情绪容器，从而固化受害者身份。 - [11:59](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=719s) 心脑相干性能重置大脑基准线：反复回顾分析创伤会让神经回路陷入过度唤醒；只有通过爱与感激等高频情绪诱发心脏相干节律，才能向大脑传递“威胁已解除”的生理信号并终结应激回路。 - [16:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=984s) 单纯顿悟无法逆转自动化行为：到了35岁左右个体95%的自我沦为潜意识程序，缺乏退后一步审视自我的“元认知”觉察，任何心理分析或致幻剂顿悟都无法转化为现实生活中的行为改变。 - [22:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=1356s) 驯服默认模式网络（DMN）与对抗生存本能：闭眼静坐时的大脑习惯依据过去预测未来以规避未知，冥想的核心在于觉察无意识的烦躁与逃避念头，并反复夺回意识的主导权。 - [27:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=1660s) 彻底蜕变要求旧自我的生物学消亡：真正的改变意味着超越外部环境、身体习惯与线性时间，在放松且警醒的非应激状态下安住于未知，从而完成神经突触连接的重组。 - [33:51](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=2031s) 因果逆转法则：让身体先于现实体验未来：普通人总是等待外在改变来填补内在匮乏，而量子创造要求在现实显化前，先在情绪和生理层面体会到丰盛、赋权与完整的滋味。 - [35:09](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=2109s) 匮乏感阻断新信息的神经接纳：处于极度匮乏、防御和抱怨状态的人无法吸收任何打破旧思维的新认知，只有停止寻求认同并下定具备高能量振幅的不可动摇决心，身体才会启动改变。 - [51:32](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=3092s) 原谅的生理学机制是战胜负面情绪与能量回收：原谅的本质不是为他人开脱，而是通过停止怨恨释放催产素并扩张冠状动脉，将投射在他人身上的能量重新召回自身用于机体修复。 - [01:10:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=4235s) 潜意识操作系统在Theta脑波与心脑同步中敞开：身体深睡而意识清醒时新皮层暂时关闭，心脑共振将低频脑波转化为载波并激发出超常的高相干Gamma波，实现大脑能量的级联爆发。 - [01:29:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=5375s) 三维匮乏创造与量子场圆满创造的本质分野：在物质世界中基于匮乏去拼命追逐只会延长分离感，而以清晰思想为电荷、升华情感为磁荷，同频共振将使外部机缘自然主动靠拢。 - [01:43:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=6210s) 自主神经系统具备胜过人造药房的生化潜能：传统药物临床试验有效率通常仅约25%，而通过系统性冥想调节自主神经系统，能在不改变药物与饮食的情况下使75%至90%以上的参与者产生积极生理逆转。 ## Detailed walkthrough ### [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=0s) 压力成瘾与改变的科学契机 西方医疗机构中，多达 75% 至 90% 的就诊者其实都是由情绪或心理压力诱发的健康问题。Dr. Joe Dispenza 指出，现代人在生理层面对压力荷尔蒙和应激负面情绪产生了重度成瘾。为了维持大脑习惯的病态化学状态，人们甚至下意识地“需要”糟糕的工作、有毒的人际关系、拥堵的早高峰交通以及充斥负能量的新闻，以便让自己持续沉浸于熟悉的应激体验之中。然而，没有任何生物有机体能够在这种“长期紧急应对模式”下生存而不崩溃，长此以往必然导致各种器质性疾病。 很多人常将无法改变归咎于过去的残酷经历——严重的童年创伤、虐待或生活变故。但 Dr. Joe Dispenza 强调，在他见证的数万个案例中，拥有极其悲惨过往的人完全能够重塑信念并蜕变为全新的人。科学研究还表明，人们向自己和他人讲述的“过去故事”中，有高达 50% 根本不是客观事实，这意味着大量人只是在不断反刍一段虚构的痛苦过往，以此作为拒绝改变的挡箭牌。更常见的是，人们习惯拖延到生活遭遇毁灭性打击、疾病或绝境时才被迫寻求改变。与其在痛苦和折磨中被动转型，人们完全有能力在喜悦与灵感的巅峰状态下主动重塑神经连接。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 压力成瘾与疾病形成机制 accDescr: 展示心理压力如何通过神经内分泌成瘾最终导致身体疾病的全过程。 subgraph S1["心理与神经刺激"] A["外界压力事件<br/>(有毒关系/职场困境/负面新闻)"] --> B["下丘脑-垂体-肾上腺轴激活<br/>(大量释放压力荷尔蒙)"] end subgraph S2["生理与行为成瘾"] B --> C["情绪依赖与生理受体钝化<br/>(对高浓度皮质醇产生生理成瘾)"] C --> D["主动寻找外部压力源<br/>(潜意识维持旧有情绪状态)"] end subgraph S3["终末病理状态"] D --> E["长期处于超负荷紧急模式"] E --> F["免疫崩溃与器质性病变<br/>(75%-90% 门诊诱因)"] end ``` - **就医诱因数据**：西方医学门诊中 75% 到 90% 的患者直接由心理或情绪压力致病。 - **记忆失真率**：认知科学研究证实，个体记忆中关于过去的自传体叙述，有近 50% 存在事实偏差或虚构。 - **转化机制**：神经工具与意识重塑对打破情绪依赖的实际效果，经临床监测优于单纯的药物干预。 --- ### [02:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=130s) 揭开意识与神经生物学转变的神秘面纱 当被问及自己的核心职业定义时，Dr. Joe Dispenza 将自己界定为“教授改变背后的神经科学与生物学逻辑”的学者与导师。他的核心目标是彻底去神秘化（demystify）个体内在转化的过程，剥离传统的玄学猜想、迷信色彩与教条主义，让每个人都能掌握切实可行、可量化且具备重复验证性的神经重塑工具。 学习的本质是在大脑中构建崭新的神经突触连接。Dr. Joe 强调，人类的大脑极其健忘，遗忘新知远比记住它容易得多；唯有不断将概念内化、复述给身旁的人、构建清晰的理解认知模型，才能在大脑中形成全新的心智水平。当一个人彻底理解了自己“正在做什么”以及“为什么这样做”时，具体实施的“怎么做”（the how）就会变得水到渠成，行动本身也被赋予了深层意义，从而带来几何级放大的转化结果。 --- ### [03:59](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=239s) 从自愈奇迹到国际顶尖科研数据库 Dr. Joe 的研究起点始于多年前自身严重的脊椎重创与随后的自愈经历，这促使他长期致力于探索“自发性缓解”（Spontaneous Remissions）这一临床谜题。当代传统医学教材往往将无法解释的痊愈归为特例或未解之谜，为了探寻所有康复者背后的共同神经与生理底层，他将研究触角伸向了神经可塑性（Neuroplasticity）与表观遗传学（Epigenetics），尝试把这些人类潜能的临界体验翻译成现代严谨的科学语言。 随着教学的推进，惊人的生理逆转现象开始在工作坊中密集爆发：多发性硬化症（MS）患者症状消退，瘫痪者在短短三天内脱离轮椅站立行走。面对这些剧烈的生理转变，Dr. Joe 意识到内在的冥想体验必须存在直接的生物物理学印记，于是他迅速召集神经科学家、分子生物学家、心血管专家和量子物理学家，对参与者的大脑脑电图（EEG）、心率变异性（HRV）以及基因表达进行全方位监测。目前，他的团队已经建立了全球规模最大的冥想与身心连接生物数据库，并与加州大学圣迭戈分校（UC San Diego）、哈佛大学（Harvard）及斯坦福大学（Stanford）展开了深度科研合作。 - **多学科交叉团队**：涵盖量子物理学、神经影像学、表观遗传学及分子生物学专家。 - **核心监测指标**：脑电相干性、心率变异性（HRV）、压力荷尔蒙代谢产物及细胞免疫标志物。 - **核心合作学府**：加州大学圣迭戈分校（UCSD）、哈佛大学、斯坦福大学。 --- ### [06:57](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=417s) 寻找圆满：人们为何真正走入冥想 主持人 Steven Bartlett 分享道，不仅自己的伴侣是他工作坊的忠实追随者并经历了深刻的人生蜕变，往期节目评论区也全是被其方法彻底改变生活与家庭的真实证言。针对“数百万人蜂拥而至到底在寻找什么”的提问，Dr. Joe 剖析了人们动机的演变过程。绝大多数人起初都带着极其功利且具体的现实目标而来：有人希望治愈恶性疾病，有人渴望斩获新工作、摆脱贫困，有人试图修复破碎的情感，还有人希望在不借助任何外源性物质（如致幻剂）的情况下获得超验的灵性体验。 然而，真正经历过深度身心转化的人最终都会领悟到一个核心法则：**如果仅仅为了“治愈”而冥想，通常收效甚微；唯有为了“彻底改变自身认知与状态”去冥想时，身体的痊愈才会作为自然副产品降临**。随着内在状态从匮乏转向自洽，人们不再执念于外界物质反馈，而是开始渴望探索超越三维时空未知的意识领域，追求一种持续深化、永无止境的“内在圆满感”（wholeness）。 --- ### [08:51](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=531s) “创伤文化”的陷阱与记忆的情绪快照 Steven Bartlett 提出了当代社会中愈演愈烈的“创伤文化”（trauma culture）现象：许多人习惯用过去经历的创伤来为当下的平庸、愤怒或心理残缺进行合法化辩护，形成诸如“我小时候遭遇了这件事，所以我现在只能这样”的心智固化模式。Dr. Joe 对此展开了深刻的神经生物学拆解。 当人在生活中经历背叛、丧亲、剧烈惊吓、身体受虐或重大绝症诊断时，巨大的情绪冲击会瞬间打乱原有的内分泌与生理稳态。面对剧烈的内部失衡，大脑防御机制会立刻像高频快门相机一样对外界环境进行“冻结定格”（freeze frame），拍摄下一系列高分辨率的感知切片，并将强烈的情绪高潮与外部场景永久绑定，这就是神经生物学上的“长期记忆”（long-term memory）。每当当事人在大脑中再次调用这段回忆，身体便会瞬间重温当年的生物化学灾难，从而在生理层面反复把自己禁锢在旧有创伤的时空坐标之中。 ### [10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=600s) 身体如何将创伤固化为身份认同 当一个人深陷过去的痛苦事件时，他们的大脑和身体会分泌与当年事发时一模一样的化学物质——无论是皮质醇还是肾上腺素。如果一个人每天在情绪上将那场创伤重演 50 到 100 次，创伤就早已不再仅仅留在大脑里，而是彻底渗透进了身体。乔·迪斯本扎博士（Dr. Joe Dispenza）指出：“想法是大脑的语言，而感受是身体的语言（thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings are the language of the body）。”正是这种特定的念头配合特定的感受、画面诱发的情绪、刺激带来的条件反射，潜意识地将肉体训练成了这种情绪的载体，使整个人在情感上被深深烙印在过去。 此时，如果去质问这些人：“你为什么总是这么愤怒？为什么满腹怨怼、猜忌多疑、惶恐不安？”他们往往会理直气壮地回答：“我变成今天这样，是因为二十或三十年前发生在我身上的那件事。”这种回答揭示了一个残酷的真相：他们的身份认同（identity）已经与过去的经历完全捆绑在一起。只要身体还在持续体验当年的痛苦情绪，他们就永远无法摆脱过去的记忆。 身体是一个极其客观的生理机器，它根本无法分辨某种情绪究竟是来自现实世界正在发生的经历，还是仅仅由个人的念头凭空制造出来的。结果就是，肉体误以为自己一年 365 天、一周 7 天、一天 24 小时都真实地生活在几十年前的那场灾难之中。人们嘴上是在控诉当年的遭遇，但在本质上，他们真正想表达的只有一句话：“在那件事发生之后，我就再也没有能力改变自己了。” ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 创伤情绪循环与生理固化机制 accDescr: 念头与身体感受形成闭环，将过去的创伤固化为生理本能，直到借助心脑相干性切断回路。 subgraph MindBodyLoop ["身心锁死回路"] A["痛苦念头 / 创伤回忆"] --> B["大脑分泌压力化学物<br/>(皮质醇/肾上腺素)"] B --> C["身体产生强烈情绪反应<br/>(每日反复重演50-100次)"] C --> D["身体被驯化为情绪容器<br/>(潜意识认同与过去绑定)"] D --> A end subgraph HeartCoherence ["打破循环：心脑相干"] E["转换至高频情绪<br/>(感恩、爱、关怀)"] --> F["心脏节律高度相干<br/>(Heart Coherence)"] F --> G["向大脑传递生理信号：<br/>'创伤已结束'"] G -.->|重置大脑神经基准线| D end ``` --- ### [11:59](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=719s) 为何不要“回顾并处理过去”：用心脑相干性重置大脑 在迪斯本扎博士的研究与实践中，他从不主张让学员“回到过去并处理创伤（go back and process the past）”。科学监测显示，当一个人带着过去的情绪去剖析、审视自己的问题时，只会让大脑的神经回路陷入更深的不平衡与过度唤醒（over-arousing），让大脑状态变得更糟。真正能让人摆脱过去的唯一途径，是彻底超越那些情绪本身。如果能教会一个人放下恐惧、怨恨、委屈、焦躁与评判，不再为过去的剧情提供情绪养料，改变才可能发生——因为在当事人自身发生改变之前，过去的故事绝不会有任何转机。 转化的关键，在于用高频情绪（elevated emotions）——如真诚的感激、欣赏、爱、善意和关怀——来替换那些低频的生存情绪。通过调整呼吸、转移注意力以及与身体对话的训练，学员的心脏开始真正“敞开”，并进入一种高度的“心脑相干”（heart-brain coherence）。在愤怒或焦躁时，心跳节律是杂乱无章、支离破碎的；而当内心充满爱与感恩时，心脏会呈现出极其平稳优美、富有节奏的韵律。脑电图与生理监测表明，一旦心脏进入相干状态，它会立刻向大脑发送明确的生理生物反馈：创伤已经彻底结束了。这个信号会迅速重置大脑的基准线（reset the baseline），使人们不再站在过去受害者的意识维度去审视生命，甚至会由衷地感慨：“天哪，原来我必须经历过往的一切，才能走到今天这一刻；哪怕能重来，我也不愿抹去过去的一丝一毫。” --- ### [14:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=864s) 极度创伤与特种部队案例：“没有情绪负荷的记忆叫作智慧” 迪斯本扎博士的工作对象不仅包括普通学员，还涵盖了美国海军海豹突击队（Navy SEALs）、特种部队队员、重刑犯，以及经历过极度残酷虐待和悲惨童年的人群。这些重度创伤者常年饱受夜惊（night terrors）、自杀倾向、恐慌症发作以及严重社交障碍的折磨，甚至完全无法走出家门。然而，当这些人在冥想和练习中真正突破旧有情绪的枷锁时，他们常常用同样的一句话来形容那一瞬间的体验：“我的心脏仿佛炸开了（my heart exploded, my heart blew wide open）。” 当心脏彻底敞开，身体便被瞬间从深渊般的过去直接拉回到了此时此刻的当下。紧接着，长年累月的焦虑、抑郁以及周而复始的周期性情绪崩溃在刹那间烟消云散，身体重新校准并恢复了最初的内稳态（homeostasis）。迪斯本扎总结道：“没有情绪负荷的记忆，就叫作智慧（The memory without the emotional charge is called wisdom）。”只有剥离了痛苦电荷，灵魂才能轻装踏上下一段人生的探险。科学研究表明，人们所叙述的童年和过去的故事，至少有 50% 根本不是客观事实；人们往往只是在反复咀嚼一段自己从未真正经历过的虚假苦难，以此作为逃避改变的借口。任何人过去的创伤都绝非不可跨越，即便曾经历过极度残酷过去的人，也完全有能力彻底蜕变为一个崭新的自己。 - 记忆剥离负面情绪电荷后即转化为“智慧”，不再驱动生理应激。 - 严谨的记忆心理学研究显示，人类对过去叙述的内容中有高达 50% 存在记忆偏差或非真实成分。 - 极度心理创伤（如退伍军人的 PTSD、严重家暴幸存者）在心脏节律恢复高度相干后，能迅速诱发神经系统的稳态复位。 --- ### [16:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=984s) 现代疗法的误区：顿悟（Insight）为何无法真正改变行为 针对现代社会流行的大量心理治疗方式——例如重温童年创伤的“内在小孩疗愈”（inner child healing）或通过反复口述痛苦事件以寻求认知的传统谈话疗法，主持人史蒂芬·巴特利特（Steven Bartlett）提出了疑问：这些方法是否因为让人反复经历创伤回路而并非最优解？迪斯本扎博士对此给出了审慎而深刻的回应：他并非全盘否定这些疗法的价值，但核心问题在于——这种关于痛苦的故事究竟何时才能真正画上句号？ 迪斯本扎指出，“单纯的顿悟（insight）根本无法改变行为”。一个人完全可以通过自我反思甚至借助外源性药物（如致幻剂等）获得某种深刻的领悟，明白自己的父亲有多么霸道、母亲有多么完美主义，或者自己童年挨过多少次打，明白自己今天的缺陷源自何处。然而，如果离开治疗室后，这个人依然无法维系与妻子的亲密关系，依然无法在现实生活中正常履职，依然每天被创伤情绪死死操控，那么这种“顿悟”对现实生活就毫无实质帮助。 为了印证这一点，史蒂芬分享了他个人成长中的真实经历：小时候他的父母争吵极其频繁，母亲经常连续数小时歇斯底里地对父亲咆哮，而父亲则表现得极为被动和沉默。这给年幼的史蒂芬留下了巨大的心理阴影，以至于他成年后在亲密关系中极度抗拒给出承诺。只要有女孩试图确立长久关系，他就会产生一种“即将被判入狱”的窒息感，并立刻选择推开对方。虽然史蒂芬后来通过写日记和独自录制播客复盘发现了这个心理机制，准确地将当下的恐惧与童年目睹父母婚姻的创伤连接了起来，但他坦言，虽然获得了这个领悟，但在现实中那种“即将坐牢”的生理性抗拒和恐惧反应却并没有因此停止。 --- ### [18:53](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=1133s) 95% 的潜意识程序：童年脑电波与元认知（Metacognition）的觉醒 迪斯本扎对史蒂芬的自我剖析给予了高度肯定，指出史蒂芬迈出了至关重要的第一步：改变的前提，是必须对那些原本深埋在无意识中的信念变得无比清醒。所谓的“信念”，无非是一个人在大脑中反复思考过无数次的念头，或是自幼被外界灌输的思维程序。到了 35 岁左右的中年阶段，一个人 95% 的自我都已经沦为一套高度固化的潜意识自动化程序：硬连线的态度、刻板的信念认知、自动化的日常习惯，以及无意识的情绪条件反射。 ```mermaid flowchart LR accTitle: 童年潜意识程序的固化与元认知觉醒 accDescr: 童年低频脑波导致环境行为直接植入潜意识，成年后需借助元认知实现觉察与改变。 subgraph Childhood ["童年印刻期 (0-7岁/低频脑波)"] A["慢速脑波<br/>(Alpha & Theta 脑电波)"] --> B["意识与潜意识大门敞开<br/>(极高暗示感受性)"] B --> C["镜像神经元模仿环境<br/>(直接固化父母相处模式)"] end subgraph Adulthood ["成年潜意识程序 (95% 自动化)"] C --> D["习惯化信念与条件反射<br/>(如'承诺等于坐牢')"] D --> E["无意识回避行为"] end subgraph Awakening ["元认知破局 (Metacognition)"] E --> F["跳出自动化系统<br/>第三人称觉察自我念头"] F --> G["拒绝拿过去当借口<br/>主动重塑神经回路"] end ``` 这种现象有着坚实的神经生物学根源：在儿童时期，大脑的脑电波处于极慢的 Alpha 波和 Theta 波状态，意识心智与潜意识心智之间的大门是完全洞开的，这使得儿童具有极高的暗示感受性（suggestible）。孩子通过大脑中的镜像神经元（mirror neurons），不加批判地全盘吸收并编程了父母的行为模式与情绪互动。史蒂芬童年目睹父母争吵时，潜意识便将“亲密关系与承诺”自动等同于了“被剥夺自由的囚徒”。 然而，迪斯本扎强调，这些后天植入的潜意识程序绝不等于真正的“你”。史蒂芬之所以能实现突破，关键在于他没有在领悟后将创伤作为逃避的借口（“我童年受过伤，所以我这辈子注定无法对女人做出承诺”），而是生发出了一种强大的渴望去克服这一自动化反应，渴望拥有一段真正有意义的亲密关系。这种能够退后一步、像旁观者一样观察自己无意识思维、情绪和行为的能力，在神经科学与心理学上被称为**“元认知（Metacognition）”**。唯有保持对无意识自我的清醒觉知，一个人才能真正开始重写底层的潜意识操作系统。 ### [20:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=1236s) 觉知与意识：打破无意识的旧程序 改变的真正契机，往往始于你能够将“主观的自我”客体化并进行超然审视的那一瞬间——这种自我观照的能力，本质上就是意识（Consciousness）。处于无意识状态，就等于任由既定的潜意识程序自动运行；我们在日常生活中一次又一次地“遗忘”初心并陷入自动驾驶，直到某个转折点，我们终于停止遗忘、开始保持觉察。对许多人而言，这种契机可能来自于生活中的一次剧烈触动或极度不适的感受，促使我们展开个人探索，渴望超越原生家庭的情感模式，重新学会爱与坚定的承诺。 Joe Dispenza 强调，人生中经历的每一个事件都在对我们进行某种编码。如果一个人真心渴望实现崭新的梦想与人生目标，那么在进化道路上，旧有自我的某一部分就“必须死去”。改变本身就是一种蜕变进化，而这一切的前提并不是虚无缥缈的高深理论，而是回归到对当下的警觉。 - **意识与无意识的区别**：无意识是处于自动化程序的机械运行中；意识则是把自我当成客体进行觉察的能力。 - **改变的核心时刻**：不再沉溺于习以为常的旧模式，停止遗忘，在警觉中重新记起真正的自我意图。 - **进化的代价**：为了抵达全新的目标，必须在心理与生理层面舍弃过去，“让旧的自己彻底死去”。 --- ### [22:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=1356s) 驯服默认模式网络：与“未知”和解 针对主持人关于“改变的第一步是顿悟还是觉知”的追问，Dispenza 明确指出，顿悟只是觉知的一种表现形式，而意识的核心就是“觉知、专注与留心”。要提升觉知力，唯一的方法就是不断练习“处于当下（being present）”。然而，当我们真正闭上眼睛坐下来尝试冥想时，大脑中的默认模式网络（Default Mode Network, DMN）便会立刻被激活并疯狂运转。它像一台不知疲倦的“预测机器”，持续消耗大量能量，试图完全依据过去的记忆去预判未来，以此填补现实中的未知来获得所谓的安全感。 因此，初学者在闭上眼的一瞬间，身体和大脑便会发起剧烈抗议：“我背有点疼”、“我口渴了”、“这冥想要持续多久啊”、“我不喜欢这背景音乐”、“太沮丧了我想躺下”。大部分人便据此得出结论——“我根本不会冥想”，并把它固化成消极的自我信念。但 Dispenza 强调，这完全是正常反应；冥想的真谛并不在于一开始就心如止水，而在于**“每一次当你抓住自己陷入无意识，并重新唤醒意识拉回当下的瞬间，那就是一次巨大的胜利”**。 人类经历了数千年的生物学演化，在原始的生存机制（战斗或逃跑反应）中，“未知”往往意味着死亡和威胁。为了生存，大脑的本能永远是设想最坏的情况并用过去的已知作为参照物。因此，“安住于当下的未知之中”实际上是在彻底对抗人类千万年来的生物生存本能。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 冥想中的意识夺回机制 accDescr: 展示从默认模式网络干扰到夺回意识主导权的闭环过程 subgraph DMN ["生物生存本能 / 默认模式网络 (DMN)"] A["闭眼尝试静坐"] --> B["DMN 疯狂运转预测未来"] B --> C["身体烦躁、产生抗拒念头<br/>('背疼/无聊/想放弃')"] end subgraph Consciousness ["意识夺回与神经重构"] C --> D["觉察到走神与无意识"] D --> E["给身体指引，降低情绪音量"] E --> F["安住于未知的当下：胜利"] F -.重塑回路.-> A end ``` --- ### [25:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=1520s) 调节神经系统与心脑同步：把身体带回当下 当身体在静坐中变得烦躁、焦虑且失去耐心时，如果只是任由其放弃，就等于向身体的动物本能投降。正确的做法是在烦躁升起时给意识“找点事做”，如同训练一匹桀骜不驯的动物一样，调低情绪的音量，将身体温柔而坚定地带回当下。Dispenza 指出，人在焦虑时大脑的不同区域会呈现割裂、杂乱的放电状态，就像注意力在不同的人、手机、电脑和待办事项之间来回弹跳。一旦你察觉到这些紊乱回路并在放电时强行按下暂停键，大脑神经元就会逐渐停止原本的异常放电。 坚持这种训练，脑电波便会从高度亢奋激惹的应激状态，逐步转变为更加协调、相干（coherent）的低频脑波。此时，处于失调（即压力状态）的自主神经系统会重新恢复秩序。持续数天的高质量练习后，练习者往往会体验到一种绝妙的身心状态：**心脏深度放松，大脑清晰觉醒**。当心脏真正放松时，心脑之间的神经通路会向大脑发出安全与创造性的信号，激发出高度的心脑同步相干，让人能够毫不费力地安住于永恒的当下。 - **驯服身体这只动物**：当身体自动想要起身去忙碌时，用意识告诉身体“我才是心智的主人，你不再是主导者”。 - **脑波重组与相干性**：通过打断分裂的神经回路放电，使脑电波由混乱转向有序与同步。 - **心脑协同（Heart-Brain Coherence）**：放松的心脏向大脑传递积极反馈，推动自主神经系统从应激失调回归平衡。 --- ### [27:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=1660s) 纯粹意识的跃迁：超越环境、身体与时间 究竟什么才叫真正的“改变”？Dispenza 给出了极其明确的定义：改变意味着**超越外部环境的条件**，即在完全相同的客观环境下，依然能做出全然不同的思考、行动与感受；改变同时意味着**超越身体的奴役**，超越身体沉溺的情感记忆、情绪惯性与本能习惯。所谓“习惯”，本质上就是你重复做一件事太多次，以至于潜意识身体比显意识大脑更能熟练地自动执行它。当你在冥想中按捺住身体起身的冲动、反复将其拉回当下时，身体内部长期封存的沉重情绪便会转化为被释放的纯净能量（liberation of energy）。 在更高层次的静心训练中，意识需要完成一次维度跃迁： 1. **超越空间**：不再执着于身处何地、家在何方或要去哪里，从“身在某处（somewhere）”蜕变为“无处安放的空灵（nowhere）”； 2. **超越时间**：不再惦记过去或预测未来，从“置身某时（sometime）”化为“无时无刻（no time）”； 3. **超越身份**：放下原有的社会角色、名字与物质定义，彻底成为“非人（nobody）、非物（no thing）”。 Dispenza 坦言这对于根深蒂固的唯物主义者很难理解，但当人们将觉知彻底敞开投向虚空、去感知空间本身时，大脑便会发生深刻的神经学重组，让人脱离狭隘的物质限制，真正进入**纯粹意识（Pure Consciousness）**的广阔领域。 --- ### [29:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=1778s) 告别被动痛苦：用重塑人格创造全新人生 面对主持人的现实提问——“如果一个深陷不良习惯循环、自怨自艾却渴望家庭和事业成功的人进入这种深层冥想，究竟能获得什么觉知？”，Dispenza 直截了当地回答：**你将极其清晰、赤裸地看清自己平时所有的潜意识坏习惯，以至于你再也不想重复它们哪怕一次**。 绝大多数人的悲哀在于，总是习惯性地被动等待危机的降临——等待被确诊重疾、遭遇背叛、破产倒闭或生活彻底崩塌，到了绝境才痛苦地喊出“我愿意改变”。但 Dispenza 犀利地质问：“兄弟，到底为什么要等那些灾难发生呢？”人类固然可以在痛苦与折磨中艰难觉醒，但完全也可以在喜悦与灵感的召唤下主动重塑自我。 当一群人汇聚在一起，撕开日常生活中毫无察觉的指责、抱怨、借口、自我怜悯与拖延时，深刻的觉悟便会油然而生：**“你的个人特质（Personality）正在创造你的个人现实（Personal Reality）；如果想要彻底创造一个崭新的个人现实，你必须首先脱胎换骨，改变你的个人特质。”** - **深层冥想的显化结果**：将深藏于潜意识中的破坏性习惯彻底曝光，失去原有的自动化引力。 - **主动进化 vs 被动受苦**：摒弃“不遇危机不改变”的受害者模式，学会通过喜悦、灵感和主动觉知来促成蜕变。 - **终极现实法则**：外部环境只是人格的投射，唯有彻底重构内在人格，生活现实才会随之迎来根本转变。 ### [31:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=1867s) 第二步：走出舒适区与旧自我的生物学消亡 乔·迪斯彭扎（Joe Dispenza）指出，改变的第二步在于“觉察无意识的自我，进而构想并重塑一个全新的自我”。许多人之所以在自我厌弃的泥潭中止步不前，是因为当人不做出改变时，其实也是在做选择——选择那些熟悉而舒适的旧模式。人一旦下定决心改变，立刻就会感到强烈的不适。那一刻，你正从“已知”（the known）跨向“未知”（the unknown）。此前如果身体已被情绪规训为心智（即仆人反客为主），一旦踏入未知且感到不适，身体就会抗议：“快回到痛苦里去！快回到内疚里去！至少那里是熟悉的！” 迪斯彭扎强调，真正的改变意味着经历一场旧自我的“生物学消亡”：神经层面、化学层面、荷尔蒙层面乃至基因表达上，旧的自我都必须死去。但这并不意味着要在“改变之河”中死撑硬抗，而是要给大脑和身体提供明确的创造方向。未知之地正是创造的最佳土壤。关键在于让人在放松且清醒的状态下进入未知，退出战斗或逃跑的“生存模式”，进入“创造模式”——因为人类的神经系统无法同时处于生存与创造两种状态。 通过闭上双眼进行心理预演（Mental Rehearsal），人们可以在脑海中反复演练面对前任或老板时，卓越、宽恕与爱是什么模样。信念无非是脑海中一遍又一遍重复的念头；一旦不断重温并反复演练，大脑就会安装上新的“硬件”，重复次数足够多后，硬件便固化为如同“软件程序”般的自动化行为。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 跨越改变之河的心理与生理过程 accDescr: 展示从生存模式的旧自我跨越未知之河并重构新自我的演进过程 subgraph Survival ["旧自我（生存状态）"] A["已知的旧自我"] --> B["情绪主导肉体<br/>熟悉、内疚与痛苦"] end subgraph River ["改变之河（未知领域）"] B -->|"做出新选择"| C["生理与神经的不适<br/>旧自我的生物学消亡"] C --> D["放松且警醒<br/>进入创造状态"] end subgraph Creation ["新自我（创造状态）"] D -->|"心智预演"| E["安装新神经回路<br/>自动化软件程序"] E --> F["提前体验未来情绪<br/>身体与心灵合一"] end ``` --- ### [33:51](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=2031s) 提前体验未来情绪：让身体先于现实获得感受 迪斯彭扎提出了核心法则：必须在事件真正发生之前，先在情绪上教会身体那是何种感觉。普通人总是在等待外在世界的改变来填补内在的匮乏与空虚——等待变得富有才去感受丰盛，等待事业成功才感受充满力量，等待疾病治愈才体会到完整与健康。这种思维模式永远是被动的“因果受害者”。而真正的创造，是学会在现实到来之前就先活在丰盛、力量与感恩之中。 当一个人在内心真切体会到丰盛时，财富的发生就有了因由；当身体先一步体认到被赋权与完整，疗愈就已然启动。反复练习并巩固这种情绪状态，人就会彻底坚信自己的未来。迪斯彭扎观察到，当学员达到一种“感觉未来已经发生”的状态时，他们就不再汲汲于向外张望和苦苦搜寻；而正是在那一刻，奇迹、巧合、机遇与同步性（synchronicities）开始自然涌入现实，这正是内在蜕变投射在外在世界中的镜像。 - **因果逆转法则**：不再等待外在环境（结果）改变内心状态，而是以内心体验（原因）主导外在转变。 - **身心一致性**：当身体完全沉浸在未来的感恩与充实感中，大脑会认为体验已经在现实中发生，进而开启生理修复通道。 --- ### [35:09](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=2109s) 为什么有些人无法改变：匮乏陷阱与情绪共振壁垒 主持人史蒂芬·巴特利特（Steven Bartlett）赞同迪斯彭扎的理论，并坦言自己的伴侣就是迪斯彭扎工作坊的深度受益者，正是伴侣将呼吸法（breath work）等探索带入了他们的生活，让他间接受益良多。但史蒂芬随即抛出一个尖锐问题：既然大部分人都有改变的潜能，为什么有些人即使得到了帮助，依然无法改变？ 迪斯彭扎透露，许多科学家也常与他探讨此问题。其核心障碍在于**极度的匮乏感与绝望感**。当一个人深陷强烈的匮乏情绪时，任何与该情绪不相称的新信息都无法穿透其神经系统。这也正是迪斯彭扎在万人大会上不设置现场问答环节的原因：“因为你可以给他一个完美答案，但他完全听不见，甚至会当场跟你激烈反驳。”唯有当事人自己脱离了那种防御性情绪状态，大脑才具备接纳新认知的带宽。 处于受害者心态的人总是把生活过成“外在世界主宰内在世界”的悲剧：外部顺境便开心，外部逆境便痛苦，时刻抱怨“为什么我还没痊愈”、“为什么好事没落到我头上”。迪斯彭扎直言，会追问“我为什么还没被治愈”的，恰恰是那个紧抓不放的“旧自我”；一个正忙于克服旧习、构建新生的人，根本没有精力去问这种受害者式的借口。 - **信息接纳原则**：神经系统无法输入与当前情绪振动不匹配的信息；情绪状态决定了认知上限。 - **问答无效性**：在极度防御或焦虑中提问的人，寻求的往往不是答案，而是对受害者故事的认同。 --- ### [38:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=2280s) 舞台上的“真理例证”：健康如同疾病一样具有传染性 迪斯彭扎分享了其大型活动中最震撼的环节：每一场活动都会有普通学员走上舞台，面对两三千名听众分享自己的疗愈奇迹。这些人看起来毫无特殊之处，在超市擦肩而过你绝不会多看一眼，既非极端的纯素食者，也非生酮拥护者，衣着外貌普普通通。然而，当他们走上台讲述自己如何从癌症等绝症中自我疗愈时，全场听众都会全神贯注地向前倾听。 真实的榜样力量具有无与伦比的穿透力。迪斯彭扎指出，健康与疗愈如同传染病一样具有高度传染性。一旦有人突破了认知的“4分钟一英里极限”，整个群体的意识天花板就会被打破： - 曾有患雷诺氏综合征（Raynaud's syndrome）的学员上台分享康复经历后，同场活动中另外4名患有雷诺氏综合征的学员在活动结束时症状全部彻底消失； - 在单次大型活动中，曾出现过5名原本依赖轮椅的残障者离开轮椅、重新站立行走的壮举。 当人们亲眼目睹鲜活的“真理例证”，他们对可能性的信念被彻底激活，心中的逻辑由怀疑转变为：“如果像他这样的普通人能做到，那我也可以。” --- ### [40:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=2426s) 身份认同是一把双刃剑 史蒂芬借此引出“身份认同”（Identity）的概念，分享了他自己的切身体会。史蒂芬长久以来一直对自我灌输一个故事：“我不喜欢跑步”。直到最近的圣诞节，他意识到不能让限制性信念禁锢自己，于是强迫自己去跑步。当双腿酸痛难忍时，他突然顿悟：在人生的其他领域里，自己又编造了多少缩小世界、画地为牢的故事？这种固化的身份认同究竟是保护了我们，还是在扼杀生命的可能性？ 迪斯彭扎回应道，每个人本质上都是“未完工的作品”（a work in progress），生命是一个不断去蔽与发现的过程。人绝不应当被单一的故事所定义，在生命的大戏中，你可以扮演你想成为的任何角色。 ### [41:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=2486s) 身份认同的双刃剑：放下旧角色以获得疗愈 Dr. Joe Dispenza 指出，在这个三维现实中，就像身处某种虚拟现实游戏一样，每个人都可以扮演任何角色。然而，当真正需要进行创造、建立深度连接时，你必须学会放下那个角色、放下固化的身份认同。许多人之所以被困住，是因为他们将自己的身份过度理想化，以至于无法成为其他任何可能。身份认同本身并非坏事，关键在于我们是否能够在创造时抽身离开它。如果某种人格或身份特征正在悄然破坏你的生活，问题就会接踵而至。 在冥想静修疗愈过程中，经常会观察到一种令人深思的现象：许多参与者的血液生理指标在活动中显著好转，但一旦回归日常生活，旧的习惯与压力卷土重来，血液指标立刻恶化；随后他们再次参加疗愈，指标重新恢复正常，可一旦返家又再次反复。这种拉锯往往会经历四到五次，直到某一天当事人终于惊醒并自问：“难道问题出在我自己身上吗？我是不是与这一切脱不了干系？”答案永远是肯定的。如果想要接受科学的疗愈规律，就不能只浅尝一口，而必须彻底践行到底。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 身份认同与生理状态的循环示意 accDescr: 展示旧身份、日常环境与身体指标反复恶化的循环，以及打破循环的关键抉择点。 subgraph 旧模式的反复拉锯 A["疗愈活动：脱离日常<br/>（血液指标好转）"] --> B["回归原有生活环境与旧身份"] B --> C["重拾限制性思维与情绪<br/>（血液指标恶化）"] C --> D{"反复循环 4-5 次后觉醒：<br/>'是不是我自己的问题？'"} D -- "继续维持旧信念" --> A end subgraph 突破与转变 D -- "彻底觉察并下定决心" --> E["做出不可动摇的决定<br/>（带有极高能量的振幅）"] E --> F["身体响应心灵<br/>形成终生难忘的长时记忆"] end ``` ### [42:41](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=2561s) 坚定决定的力量：让身体提前尝到未来的滋味 当你意识到自身某些身份设定在限制自己时，就必须审查自己整天向内心诉说以重申这一设定的“故事”到底是什么，并反问自己：“这真的是事实吗？”如果不是，就必须下定决心做出改变。这个决定必须蕴含着极具强度的坚定意图，其决策的“振幅”（amplitude）必须携带足够强大的能量，才能让身体主动响应心灵。在那个时刻做出的抉择，会成为一生难以磨灭的印记——就如同你在多年后依然能清晰地回忆起当时自己身在何处、在做什么、那是哪一天的哪个时刻。 情绪的强度决定了记忆的深刻程度。如果只是敷衍地嘟囔一句“我想改变一下自己的性格”，身体立刻就会识破谎言，知道这根本不是认真的，后续依然会做出旧有的选择。唯有当你彻底走出静止的舒适区（resting state），斩钉截铁地宣告：“无论需要多久（时间）、无论身体感觉如何（身体）、无论外界如何评价或现实环境有多糟糕（环境），我都必须改变！”这一刻，你实际上在情感层面提前给予了身体“未来的滋味”。这一强烈的决心会向量子场释放出极具穿透力的信号。 - 决定必须具备极高的能量振幅，使身体从无意识的控制中苏醒。 - 克服环境、身体与时间的借口，才能真正建立新的长时记忆。 - 情感预演未来的达成状态，是促使身体在生物学层面发生转变的先决条件。 ### [44:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=2657s) 目标具体化与“克服即成为”的法则 Steven Bartlett 随即探讨了这种转变的动力来源：如果想要获得脱离旧自我的“逃逸速度”，背后的“为什么”（理由）是否必须无比清晰强大？比如立下新年决心，绝不能仅仅停留在“我觉得别人会高看我一眼”这种虚荣的表面，而是必须深深扎根于核心价值观，并能清楚表达出其重要性。Dr. Joe 对此深表认同，并将其称为“赋予意义”（assigning meaning）。无论目标是更健康、更富有、更自由还是更懂得去爱，唯一的阻碍就是旧身份中需要褪去的那部分。想从匮乏走向富足，这个人本身就必须经历彻底蜕变。 在这个过程中，需要将目标极度具体化： 1. **明确愿景**：不断提醒自己做这件事的初心与终极体验。 2. **列出不同选择与行动**：即使起步时双腿酸痛或极为不适，也咬牙坚持，因为目标清晰无比。 3. **屏蔽限制性念头**：真正承诺健康与锻炼的人，大脑中绝对不能允许出现“我太累了”或“我今天没心情”的声音，因为这些念头是阻止改变的元凶。 Dr. Joe 总结道：“克服的过程，就是成为的过程”（the overcoming process that is the becoming process）。当你真正克服了某项旧信念、消极行为或情绪依赖时，作为这一胜利的“副产品”，你自然而然就变成了全新的人，并且会由衷地更加热爱自己。 ### [47:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=2837s) 退役军人与海豹突击队的疗愈奇迹：Joshua 的重生日 Dr. Joe 的团队目前深入开展了面向退伍老兵、海豹突击队（Navy SEALs）及特种部队成员的专项救助项目。这些经历过惨烈战事的军人日常往往承受着常人难以想象的创伤后应激障碍（PTSD）。许多人表面上极力维持正常，心底却早早备好了“退出计划”（甚至准备好过量药物随时准备自杀）。尽管他们尝试过迷幻植物疗法、裸盖菇素（mushrooms）和氯胺酮（ketamine）等各种医学手段，PTSD 的阴影依然挥之不去。 面对这群身处绝境的精锐军人，Dr. Joe 采取理性严谨的说理方式。当他向海豹突击队员解释“敞开心扉的练习将如何重新设定大脑内部创伤的基线”时，队员们不会推诿怀疑，而是展现出极高的执行力：“长官，是的！我会一直练习直到它实现！”通过给予完备的科学原理解释与反复实践的机会，队员们大脑和身体与过去的创伤记忆及负面情绪彻底断开连接，神经系统得到了根本性的重置。 退伍军人 Joshua 的转变尤为震撼。他曾饱受童年虐待之苦，成年后陷入严重的毒瘾与酗酒泥潭，来到活动现场前对冥想一无所知、未曾涉足，甚至连自己究竟要去哪里都不知道（测试过程完全保持盲态）。刚进会场时他充满防备与戒心，无法想象自己能融入人群。但在深度冥想之后，这位外形坚韧勇猛的军人整颗心仿佛被彻底震开。在摄像机前接受采访时，他沉默停顿了整整一分钟，随后泪流满面、情绪激动地说道：“我找回了自己的生活！我彻底找回了生活。我的婚姻重归于好，我深爱着我的孩子们，我能重新感知世界了，我是发自内心的快乐，再也不用强装笑容。”正是由于 Joshua 等早期案例带来的显著疗效，退役老兵们在战友圈内口口相传，促使 Dr. Joe 通过其非营利机构“Give to Give 基金会”设立了常态化的老兵救助方案。 ### [51:32](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=3092s) 原谅的生理机制：从情绪解脱到能量回收 当主持人问及在摆脱受害者心态的过程中“原谅”有多重要时，Dr. Joe Dispenza 指出，原谅是维持我们生命最基础的核心之一。在他看来，原谅的本质非常简单，那就是“战胜某种负面情绪”（overcoming the emotion）。当一个人真正战胜了那股被伤害或愤怒的情绪，心脏便会自然而然地敞开。随着能量流向心区，体内释放的生化物质会发生根本性的改变，从受害者常有的愤怒或性冲动等低阶化学分泌，转向高阶的“化学灵药”（chemical elixir）。 催产素（Oxytocin）在此时被大量释放，进而触发一氧化氮（Nitric Oxide）的分泌。这一生化级联反应会促使心脏动脉扩张，让心脏充盈血液与能量。多项研究表明，只要血液中的催产素水平轻微上升，一个人就几乎不可能继续心怀怨恨。原谅从来不是刻意在日历上标记“今天我原谅你了”的形式主义，而是当你真正战胜了情绪，将注意力从伤害你的人或过往问题上彻底移开后的必然产物。因为注意力集中在何处，能量就流向何处；一旦情绪被平复，原本投射在他人身上的能量就会被重新“召回”，构筑属于自己的能量场，从而释放出用于身体疗愈、灵感创造以及体验神秘精神体验的能量。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 原谅与心脏生化机制流程图 accDescr: 展示战胜情绪如何通过释放催产素与扩张心血管，实现能量回收与自我疗愈。 subgraph EmotionShift["情绪与注意力转移"] A["战胜负面情绪"] --> B["注意力离开施害者/过往问题"] B --> C["能量被重新召回，扩充个人能量场"] end subgraph HeartCascade["心脏生化级联反应"] A --> D["能量流向心区 / 敞开心扉"] D --> E["释放催产素 (Oxytocin)"] E --> F["信号刺激一氧化氮 (Nitric Oxide)"] F --> G["冠状动脉血管舒张充血"] end subgraph HealingResult["身心疗愈结果"] C --> H["用于身体自我疗愈与创造的充沛能量"] G --> H end ``` ### [54:11](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=3251s) 原谅是否意味着认可不公与伤害？ 主持人提出许多人心中的纠结：如果去原谅那些虐待我们的人——无论是童年时期苛责的父亲、工作单位无理解雇的老板，抑或更恶劣的加害者——是否意味着在变相为他们开脱（letting them off the hook）或承认这种不公正？对此，Dr. Joe Dispenza 明确表示，我们确实应该原谅所有人在所有境遇下的过错，因为原谅的终极目的不是宽恕他人，而是“解放你自己”。 只有当你从生理和情感层面彻底战胜对该事件的情绪时，你才能将自己从过去的梦魇和那个人身上松绑。人人一生中或多或少都经历过极为恶劣的事情，甚至也可能对他人做过过分的事；但唯有下定决心选择以“爱”作为治愈的良方，才能真正切断伤害的循环。在其实践工坊中，无数普通人通过学会超越怨恨、释放无条件的爱，不仅彻底重塑了心理状态，甚至在身体层面迎来了医学奇迹般的康复效果。 ### [55:22](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=3322s) 压力荷尔蒙的成瘾机制与慢性疾病 针对当今社会普遍激增的慢性压力，Dr. Joe Dispenza 强调，生活在压力中就是生活在“生存模式”（survival mode）之中。现代社会的快节奏常常令人应接不暇，而长期处于压力荷尔蒙的主导下，会让大脑陷入高度戒备的“高贝塔脑波状态”（high beta brain wave states）。这种生理唤醒迫使人过度聚焦于外部环境、肉体感受以及时间的流逝，从而彻底破坏了身体的内稳态（homeostasis）平衡。 持续开启战或逃（fight-or-flight）系统会导致机体得不到恢复，进而走向疾病。更为棘手的是，压力唤醒会带来强烈的能量冲动，导致许多人对自身的负面情绪产生“荷尔蒙成瘾”——他们必须依赖糟糕的工作、恶劣的关系、堵车甚至负面新闻来不断刺激自身，维持对愤怒、怨恨等情绪的生理瘾头。西方医疗机构中，75% 至 90% 的就诊者其根本诱因均可归咎于情绪或心理压力。 - **三类压力与平衡**：人体受物理（Physical）、化学（Chemical）和情绪（Emotional）三种压力影响，必须同时达到这三方面的平衡。一个人即便严格遵循有机生酮、素食或间歇性断食，拼命进行瑜伽、HIIT、力量训练或针灸，若内在情绪一团糟，身体健康也绝不可能持久维持。 - **情绪的难治期（Refractory Period）**：关键在于缩短情绪反应的持续周期。情绪反应本身完全正常，但若任由一次应激反应持续数月或数年，就会逐渐固化成为一个人的性格特质。 - **成瘾与戒断**：当人们意识到自己竟在“利用某个人来反复维持对愤怒的成瘾”时，就迎来了觉醒时刻；戒断情绪成瘾就像戒毒，中途必然会经历情绪撤药反应。 - **生存模式扼杀创造力**：在生存模式下，大脑唯一的任务是“逃跑、战斗和隐藏”，此时身心本能地拒绝反思、冥想、敞开心扉和展现脆弱，因为在野兽威胁的原始生存环境下，闭上眼睛等于被吃掉。因此，疗愈的第一步永远是自主调节情绪，主动将身体拉回到平衡的内稳态中。 ### [01:01:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=3697s) 情绪对免疫系统的直接冲击与 IgA 研究 斯蒂芬·巴特利特（Steven Bartlett）分享了自身的切身体会：他平时极少生病，一年大概也就病倒两次，正因如此，每次生病都像是一记警钟，让他能够极其清晰地倒推源头。他能够精准复盘整个因果链条——某件事情发生，自己做出了某种应激反应，大约 8 天之后，免疫系统便应声瓦解。他直言，这绝非“不小心碰了脏东西、细菌进入口腔”那么偶然，情绪与生病之间的关联在自己身上一清二楚，而他渴望彻底终结这种恶性循环。听到斯蒂芬今年 32 岁，乔·迪斯彭扎（Dr. Joe Dispenza）赞许道：“天哪，你做得太棒了！如果你现在就能领悟这一点，到 40 岁时你就能完全驾驭它了。” 迪斯彭扎博士随后介绍了一项极具说服力的实验研究：他们让受试者连续 3 天停止沉浸在生存情绪（如恐惧、焦虑、愤怒）中，转而专注于练习感受崇高情绪（Elevated Emotions）与以心为本的情感。研究人员检测了受试者体内的免疫球蛋白 A（Immunoglobulin A，简称 IgA）。IgA 被誉为人体的天然流感疫苗，其防护效力甚至优于人工疫苗。检测结果显示，仅仅在经过 3 天将匮乏受限的情绪置换为崇高情绪的练习后，受试者体内的 IgA 水平平均暴增了 50%。 迪斯彭扎解释道，身体本质上是极度客观的中性器官，当你沉浸在崇高情绪中时，身体便会信以为真，误以为自己正身处一个充满关爱与滋养的安全环境之中。环境向基因传递信号，而情绪正是外部体验在体内的终极生物学产物；因此，通过调动积极崇高的内在情绪，人实际上是在“抢先于外部环境”向基因发出重塑信号。此时，身体开始大量合成球蛋白，将能量聚焦于构建内部防御体系，不再疲于应对外部威胁，原本濒临崩溃的免疫系统得以重归秩序。 - **生理指标跃升**：在连续 3 天停止体验生存情绪并专注培育崇高情绪后，受试者体内的天然免疫防线 IgA 水平显著上升了 50%。 - **基因信号重塑原理**：身体无法区分真实的外在环境与由内在情绪唤起的体验；当个体在内部体验崇高情绪时，身体便会率先激活负责内部修复的基因，促使免疫系统全面重回正轨。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 情绪状态对免疫系统的调控机制 accDescr: 对比生存情绪与崇高情绪对基因表达及免疫系统防御机制的不同生理影响 subgraph SurvivalState["生存情绪模式 (应激反应)"] A["负面事件与应激反应"] --> B["陷入恐惧、焦虑或愤怒"] B --> C["注意力全神贯注于外部威胁"] C --> D["免疫系统能量被挪用 / 内部防御瓦解"] end subgraph ElevatedState["崇高情绪模式 (意识练习)"] E["主动练习以心为本的崇高情感"] --> F["身体误以为处于充满滋养的安全环境"] F --> G["领先于外部环境向基因传递积极信号"] G --> H["合成大量免疫球蛋白 (IgA 飙升 50%)"] H --> I["内部防御体系与免疫机能重归秩序"] end ``` --- ### [01:03:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=3816s) 赞助商插播：Intuit 斯蒂芬·巴特利特带来了本期赞助商 Intuit 的招聘宣讲。他强调，若想在科技职业生涯中更上一层楼，就必须将自己置身于最顶尖的环境之中，与以数据和人工智能引领创新的先锋人才共事。Intuit 旗下拥有 TurboTax、Credit Karma、QuickBooks 和 Mailchimp 等产品，正借助 AI 驱动的专家平台为全球约 1 亿消费者与企业客户提供财富管理与增长支持。这种以快速实验解决复杂客户问题的使命驱动型文化，与斯蒂芬自身企业的价值观高度契合。Intuit 提供灵活的混合办公模式与包容的企业文化，在亚特兰大、纽约、圣地亚哥、旧金山湾区及多伦多等地均设有办公室。 --- ### [01:04:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=3882s) 晨间独处时刻与“不让魔法消失”的内驱力 斯蒂芬询问，在整套自我改变的体系中，建立一套雷打不动的“日常惯例”（Routine）是否至关重要，以此在外界狂风骤雨时充当内心的锚。迪斯彭扎坦言自己更倾向于避开“惯例”这个词，因为该词常常会让人联想到僵化刻板的教条。他更主张的是：每天能否留出一段专属于自己的时间，全然与自己独处。 就迪斯彭扎个人而言，他的习惯是在每天清晨保留整整两个小时。这完全是属于他重塑大脑与身体的黄金时间，他会在此期间梳理当天的行程，预演自己将以何种心境与状态去面对，随后投入冥想——通过冥想战胜旧我、完成蜕变并展开创造。他并不执着于要求每个人都在清晨进行，因为每个人体质与节律不同：他自己是个清晨型人，而他的一些艺术家、音乐家朋友甚至他的孩子们则是夜晚型人，夜晚更能激发他们的创造力。最核心的法则在于：在一天中找出一个固定时段，静心审视自己究竟想成为谁、不再想成为谁，明确需要改变的地方，同时永远为“未知”（The Unknown）留出一席之地，去享受那种探索与创造的乐趣。 迪斯彭扎欣慰地表示，他最引以为傲的就是其社群中的学员都会自觉自发地去践行这些功课，完全无需外力鞭策。当被问及为何日复一日坚持时，学员们除了回答“这让我感觉更好”之外，最普遍的回答是：“我不希望这种奇迹就此终结（I don't want the magic to end）。”因为生活中出现了太多不可思议的美好事物，当这套方法切实改变了现实生活时，打卡练习便不再是一项“不得不做”的苦差事，而转变为一种“发自内心想要去做”的渴望。 --- ### [01:06:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=3996s) 大脑与心灵的共振：从混沌到全局相干 斯蒂芬谈及迪斯彭扎之前提到的“脑心相干性”（Brain Heart Coherence），表示自己此前从未听过这个词，甚至不知道大脑与心脏之间存在如此深层的联结。迪斯彭扎笃定地回应：“它们之间存在着绝对不可分割的连接。”他回忆道，2020 年 2 月的一项研究令团队无比着迷：当时他们在进行脑电图（EEG）脑波监测的同时，引入了测量心脏的心电导联，将心率变异性（HRV）与脑电波数据进行对照观察。 所谓“相干性”（Coherence），本质上就是“节律”（Rhythm）。当脑波在仪器上呈现出整齐划一、极其对称且有序的韵律时，便是处于相干状态；反之，若波形杂乱无章，大脑各区域各自为政、以不同频率剧烈震荡，大脑便处于“不相干”（Incoherent）的混乱状态。迪斯彭扎随后抽丝剥茧地解析了脑波的不同能级： - **Beta 脑波（意识清醒状态）**：在此状态下，大脑正在全力建立外部世界与内在心理之间的意义连接，处理浩瀚的感官数据。 - *低频 Beta*：感知自身作为一个局限于特定时空的肉身存在，类似于当下正进行的平静对话。 - *中频 Beta*：警觉度与注意力提升，例如得知即将在观众面前接受即兴测验、公开发表演讲或在晚宴上与陌生人社交，大脑灯泡变得更亮。 - *高频 Beta*：伴随压力荷尔蒙爆发，身处恐惧、焦虑、愤怒、痛苦、沮丧或嫉妒时的大脑状态。此时神经系统过度激活，注意力极度狭窄且过度聚焦在物质与外在威胁上。 - **Alpha 脑波（潜意识连接与创造力状态）**：当训练人们扩展意识去“感知空间”（Sense Space）时，纯粹的感知动作会直接阻断逻辑分析与思虑，抑制大脑新皮质的过度活跃，脑波随之减缓进入 Alpha 状态。 - 在 Beta 状态下，大脑后方总有一个喋喋不休的批判声音在评判对错、催促待办事项；而一旦跨越 Beta 步入 Alpha，内在的评判之声趋于沉寂，连接显意识与潜意识的大门正式开启。 - Alpha 状态也是富有想象力、以图像与画面构想现实的创意思维状态。 - **全局相干性（Global Coherence）**：迪斯彭扎强调，他们所追寻的并非普通的 Alpha 脑波，而是“高相干性的 Alpha”（Coherent Alpha）。原本以杂乱频率各自放电的大脑各个独立分区，在这一状态下奇迹般地步调一致、同频共振；正所谓“在大脑中同步放电的神经元，必将在大脑中彼此联结”（What sinks in the brain starts to link in the brain），整座大脑由此融合成一张前所未有的单一神经网络在协同运作。 ### [01:10:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=4235s) 潜意识之门：从 Theta 脑电波到重写生命程序 当一个人冥想得非常深入时，身体会彻底放松并感受到极度的安全感，进而进入一种身体处于轻度睡眠、大脑却依然保持清醒的状态——即“身体放松，意识清醒”（relaxed and awake）。此时大脑处于 Theta 波状态，也就是一种催眠状态。负责将我们与三维现实锚定的新皮层（neocortex）逐渐关闭，个人的旧身份、固有的角色以及过去的思维习惯全部沉寂，大脑在这部分区域的活动停止。这一刻，连接显意识与潜意识的大门彻底敞开，个体变得极易接收暗示（suggestible）。 在这种状态下，人们得以直接访问自身的“操作系统”（潜意识），去重写既定的程序、排练全新的剧本，讲述关于未来的故事而非沉溺于过去的痛苦，从而向自主神经系统（autonomic nervous system）输入新指令以改变生物学生理机能。然而，如果越过了 Theta 波的临界点，大脑就会跌入 Delta 波，彻底进入沉睡与无意识状态。普通人每晚入睡时都会经历从 Beta、Alpha、Theta 到 Delta 的过程；如果在高压力下处于高 Beta 波，思维便会停不下来导致失眠。反之，早晨醒来则是从 Delta 逐渐回升到 Beta。因此，清晨与入睡是潜意识之门天然敞开的两个时刻。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 脑电波状态与潜意识访问通道 accDescr: 展示从清醒高压状态降至深睡无意识状态的脑电波阶梯，突出Theta波作为潜意识操作系统的节点。 subgraph Conscious ["显意识主导"] HighBeta["High Beta 波<br/>压力、过度思考、无法入睡"] --> Beta["Beta 波<br/>日常清醒专注状态"] Beta --> Alpha["Alpha 波<br/>身心平静、架起内外桥梁"] end subgraph HypnoticDoor ["潜意识操作系统入口"] Alpha --> Theta["Theta 波<br/>身体轻睡、意识清醒<br/>关闭新皮层，大门敞开，重写程序"] end subgraph DeepSleep ["无意识状态"] Theta --> Delta["Delta 波<br/>深度睡眠、失去意识"] end ``` ### [01:12:02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=4322s) 心脑同频与伽马波共振：能量的级联爆发 当脑电波处于 Theta 状态且注意力完全倾注于心脏时，心脑协调（Brain and Heart Coherence）便开始发挥奇效。心脏作为生物学中的创造中心，会向大脑额叶发出指令，促使其开启想象力去憧憬未来。心脏越放松，大脑就越清醒。一旦个体能够维持这种心脑同步，Theta 波就会转变为一种“载波”（carrier wave）。在此基础上，Alpha 波叠加于 Theta 波之上，进而谐波共振形成 Beta 波，最终跨越至高 Beta 波并跃升为超意识的 Gamma 波。 Gamma 波代表着超高级别的意识与超感知力（super-awareness）。这种“身心极其放松却又无比清醒”的状态促使大脑形成多重波动的叠加共振（resonance）。在极为相干的情况下，波形相互干涉放大，使脑部能量呈现指数级爆发。在实验室脑电图检测中，许多进阶冥想者的 Gamma 脑电波甚至高出正常标准差 200、300 乃至 400 个标准差（一般偏离 3 个标准差已属于人群中极其罕见的 2% 范畴）。他们的大脑正在处理巨量的有序能量，且内心体验到极度充盈与美妙的感受。 - 脑电波谐波共振过程：基底波（Delta 或 Theta）载荷 Alpha 波 $\rightarrow$ 叠加 Beta 与 High Beta $\rightarrow$ 跃升至 Gamma 超意识态。 - 能量暴增机制：当相干脑波相互干涉时，波幅叠加放大，大脑生物电能显著飙升。 - 主持人追问关于 MDMA 或致幻剂（如裸盖菇素 psilocybin）是否能诱发类似状态；Dr. Joe 透露他们正展开对比研究，目前功能性磁共振成像（fMRI）已证实：裸盖菇素能关闭大脑中负责预测和反省的“默认模式网络”（Default Mode Network, DMN），而高级冥想者在经历神秘体验时，fMRI 呈现出完全相同的脑回路关闭特征。 ### [01:15:08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=4508s) 开启潜意识重塑的三种途径与量子场连接 针对如何在 Theta 波中完成潜意识重塑的疑问，Dr. Joe 提出了三种主要实现路径： 第一种方式是带着清晰的意图进入潜意识。受过训练的人在脑海中勾勒想要实现的图景，清晰的意图如同信息指令，会直接促使自主神经系统合成匹配该意图的生化物质，实现从思想向生理状态的转化。 第二种方式是利用处于 Theta 催眠态下的高度易受暗示性。在摒弃分析性思维后，个体能够全然接受并臣服于外界正面信息的引导，从而直接将其烙印在生物机能中，甚至定向诱发深刻的“神秘体验”（mystical experience）。 第三种方式则是最为震撼的发现——直接从量子场（Quantum Field）接收频率信息。当冥想者闭上双眼，将注意力从物质世界、身体感官和已知事物中抽离，把狭窄的焦点扩大至开放空间时，他们的意识便对准了感官之外无形的量子能量场。在特定的 Theta 频段下，大脑不再依赖眼耳鼻舌身等感官刺激，而是直接从超感知频率中提取高度有序的信息。 ```mermaid flowchart LR accTitle: 量子场频率转化为生理升级的机制 accDescr: 说明注意力从物质世界转移到量子场后，如何引发伽马波激活自主神经系统并修复细胞。 A["抽离感官焦点<br/>闭眼感知开放空间"] --> B["连接量子场频率<br/>Theta波载荷高级信息"] B --> C["诱发高相干 Gamma 波<br/>伴随狂喜与极乐体验"] C --> D["自主神经系统强力调控<br/>如音叉般校准全身组织器官"] D --> E["生物学跃升<br/>能量重塑物质，血液产生防御蛋白"] ``` ### [01:18:06](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=4686s) 能量重塑物质：神秘体验与血液中的免疫奇迹 当受试者直接接入量子场频率时，大脑新皮层的思虑停滞，随即骤升至极高且相干的 Gamma 波模式。此时在神经生理上所触发的不再是恐惧、愤怒或痛苦等日常应激唤醒，而是一种语言无法形容的“极乐与狂喜”（bliss and ecstasy），仿佛无限贴近源头（Source）。 压力本质上是自主神经系统的失调；而高度相干的 Gamma 状态则赋予自主神经系统极致的调控能力。它犹如一个高频共振的音叉，将秩序与能量广播至全身的每一个细胞、组织与器官，从而带来身体层面的生物学跃升（biological upgrade）——也就是“能量重新赋予物质形态”（energy informs matter）。 这种改变并非心理幻觉，而是具有可量化的生物学证据： - 研究团队采集了处于该状态的高级冥想者血样，进行了过继转移（adoptive transfer）体外实验。 - 将冥想者的血液样本与表达有 ACE2 受体的细胞共同培养，随后引入新冠假病毒（COVID pseudovirus）进行暴露测试。 - 实验发现，冥想者的血液中存在一种特异性分离蛋白，能够有效阻止病毒结合并侵入细胞，使病毒颗粒仅仅附着在细胞外部无法感染，证实了精神超越状态对人体免疫与生理机能带来的切实改变。 ### [01:20:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=4833s) 冥想对血液、线粒体与微生物菌群的生化重塑 乔·迪斯彭扎（Dr. Joe Dispenza）指出，高阶冥想者的血液展现出惊人的生物学保护机制，甚至能阻止病毒侵入细胞。在他带领的研究中，那些经历过超验体验（Transcendental moments）的冥想者中，有高达 84% 的人体内血液含有能够直接关闭癌细胞线粒体功能（mitochondrial function）和糖酵解功能（glycolytic function）的信息分子。此外，他们的血液中还检测到了促进神经发生（neurogenesis）的生化信号；更令人不可思议的是，在完全不改变日常饮食的情况下，学员仅凭为期 7 天的冥想，其肠道微生物菌群就发生了翻天覆地的改变，自发生成了大量益生菌群。 主持人史蒂芬·巴特利特（Steven Bartlett）对此深有共鸣，联想到著名的“冰人”维姆·霍夫（Wim Hof）的对照实验：研究人员向霍夫及其他受试者体内注射内毒素/病毒，霍夫通过呼吸法和冥想成功抵御了感染，随后他还训练了一批普通人达成同样的效果。史蒂芬坦言，普通大众往往觉得这类事情过于“玄学”（woo-woo），因为“你可以靠意识抵御病毒”这一认知彻底打破了传统思维，将绝对的个人责任推到了每个人面前，这反而让人感到不安。迪斯彭扎回应称，他们的这项研究已正式发表在同行评审的科学期刊上，核心逻辑非常纯粹：如果你不断训练自己的内在意识凌驾于外在环境之上（greater than your environment），身体的先天智能就会彻底被激活，使你在微观层面上战胜环境中的致病微生物。 - **超验体验的抗癌生化标记**：84% 的深度体验者血液能特异性抑制癌细胞能量代谢，关闭其线粒体及糖酵解途径。 - **菌群与神经重构**：在维持原有饮食的前提下，仅经过 7 天冥想即可全面重塑肠道益生菌生态并促进神经生成。 - **维姆·霍夫免疫实验印证**：意识与呼吸控制不仅能改变个体神经与免疫反应，且该机制完全可被普通人复制和学习。 --- ### [01:22:22](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=4942s) 新手如何在一周内达到高阶冥想者的基因与脑波状态 迪斯彭扎解释了他为何频繁使用“高阶冥想者”（Advanced meditator）这一词汇。许多参加 7 天沉浸式静修营（Week-long Retreat）的人其实是彻头彻尾的初学者，他们往往是被配偶、伴侣或同事拉来的，最初对活动一无所知、毫无心理准备。然而，在这短短 7 天的深度沉浸之后，这群新手的脑电波模式与各项血液生物指标，已经与长期冥想多年的高阶修行者毫无二致。他们体内的数千个基因发生上调，展现出生理层面的彻底新生——而这一切仅仅发生在一个平平无奇的酒店宴会厅里，没有任何外部环境刺激，所有剧变全凭个体向内的心智探索而生。 更震撼的科研发现在于群体基因表达的同步。人类拥有各自独特的基因型，原本表达各不相同的蛋白质。但在 7 天闭关结束时，研究团队检测发现，近 80% 的受试者竟然在发出完全相同的基因信号、合成完全相同的蛋白质。迪斯彭扎解释，这意味着当一群人采取高度一致的意识行为时，会涌现出一种强大的“群体突现意识”（Emergent Consciousness）。就像鸟群、兽群或部落一样，全场学员在生物学层面实现了整齐划一的群体进化。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 沉浸式冥想诱导的群体基因表达与生物突现流程 accDescr: 展示初学者在7天冥想中通过内在心智调节，最终产生群体突现意识和基因同步的过程。 subgraph INTAKE["初始状态"] A["新手受试者<br/>(无冥想经验/各异基因型)"] end subgraph PROCESS["7天沉浸式闭关"] B["高强度心智训练<br/>(宴会厅环境/无外部新刺激)"] C["内在超越体验<br/>(调动先天生物智能)"] end subgraph OUTCOME["生物学生理性转变"] D["大脑与血液指标对齐高阶冥想者"] E["数千个基因上调 (微环境适应)"] F["80%人群基因表达与蛋白质合成高度同步<br/>(涌现集体意识/群体进化)"] end A --> B B --> C C --> D C --> E D --> F E --> F ``` --- ### [01:24:21](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=5061s) 一场耗时 35 小时的“精神电音派对” 史蒂芬对静修营中学员每天投入的冥想时长感到震惊。迪斯彭扎笑称，活动现场宛如一场“精神电音派对”（Spiritual Rave）：每天从清晨 6 点持续到晚上 7、8 点，但由于体验极度充实，时间流逝得飞快。整周下来，学员的纯冥想时间累计约 35 个小时。课程设计绝非单调地枯坐，而是包含了站立冥想、行走冥想（单场活动往往进行四到六次，目的是让学员学会在睁眼状态下将高频能量具身化）、以及在确认学员不会睡着后才加入的躺卧冥想。 迪斯彭扎强调，绝不会在没有知识铺垫的前提下盲目引导学员冥想，因为“知识是体验的先导”（knowledge is the precursor to the experience）。只有当大脑理性理解了每个步骤背后的生化与物理学原理，身体才能毫无阻力地接纳体验。每一位走出闭关的学员不仅没有精疲力竭，反而迫不及待地想回归日常生活继续修习，因为他们真切感受到自己换了一具身体，从原有的时间线（line of time）中跃迁到了崭新的人生轨迹。 --- ### [01:25:52](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=5152s) 亲身体验的信服力与“成为行走的典范” 史蒂芬分享了他身边的真实案例。他的伴侣此前参加了迈阿密站的 7 天静修营（史蒂芬本人因签证问题未能成行），在海滩上进行了多次行走冥想。从迈阿密回来后，她发生了脱胎换骨的变化：她不仅没有停止，反而将这套冥想化作了每日清晨自发遵守的日常。史蒂芬感慨，这种坚持甚至不需要依靠世俗意义上的“意志力”（discipline），因为当一个人如此清晰、确凿地感受到某一行为带来的巨大福祉时，它就完全演变为一种享受。旁人听播客可能觉得不可思议，但当亲眼目睹深爱之人变得快乐、充实、完全沉浸在正向状态中时，这种转变具有无可辩驳的说服力。 迪斯彭扎对这种“活出范本”的状态表示由衷赞许。他表示，自己最不希望看到学员结业后四处对人指手画脚说教（比如教育别人“缩短情绪不应期”、“学会原谅”或“让心脑合一”），而是希望他们安静地走入尘世，直接“成为活生生的典范”（be the example）。当身边的人主动好奇地跑来问你“你到底怎么了？你看起来整个人完全不同了”，真正的生命对话才真正展开。 - **行走的生命范本**：不靠言语传教，依靠内在稳定喜悦的能量场引发周围环境的自发好奇与共振。 - **免于意志消耗的自驱力**：超越对抗性的自律，当身心彻底尝到内在整合的甜头，日常修行便成为一种主动的犒劳。 --- ### [01:28:03](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=5283s) 告别“匮乏造物”：三维物质现实与量子维度的本质分野 迪斯彭扎深入探讨了现代人内心喜悦的自主权。当大脑进入伽马脑波（Gamma waves）状态时，个体会与被他称为纯粹之爱的“源头”（Source）相连接，体验到此生从未体会过的浓烈之爱。一旦意识到这种爱来自内在而非外部世界，人就获得了真正的终极自由（Freedom）与无条件之爱，彻底从外在追逐与“匮乏”（want / lack）中解脱。 迪斯彭扎剖析了三维现实（3D Reality）中绝大多数人遵循的创造机制： 1. **基于匮乏的欲望投射**：在三维物质世界中，人们看到别人拥有跑车或漂亮的围巾，大脑因为“自己没有”而产生匮乏感，进而产生占有欲望。 2. **三维示范层面的动作追逐**：物质世界是“示范的平面”（plane of demonstration），人们必须付出繁重的体力或劳动去追求物质。 3. **短暂消除分离感**：当历经千辛万苦拿到跑车或围巾时，物质刺激瞬间带来快感，暂时抵消了内心的匮乏感与分离感。然而，绝大多数人的一生都在这种“匮乏—追逐—短暂满足—再次匮乏”的怪圈中虚度。 相反，迪斯彭扎倡导的“量子创造法”完全颠覆了这一因果链条：不要为了填补匮乏去追求外物，而是在物质发生之前，在内在深处先体验到圆满，感到“心愿早已彻底达成”（feeling like the event has already happened）。以此状态生活的人，其生物电磁场将直接重塑外界的现实。 ### [01:29:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=5375s) 从匮乏中创造 vs. 从圆满中创造 Dr. Joe Dispenza 深入阐述了量子创造与传统物质创造的根本区别。当一个人在内心已经深刻体验到了达成目标的饱满情绪时，他就不会再以一种“渴望”或“寻觅”的饥渴状态去向外抓取。因为寻找的行为本质上源于“匮乏感”（lack）——只有当你觉得自己缺失某样东西时，你才会苦苦追寻。若在内在感觉它已经发生，你与它之间就不再存在分离；而在潜意识与能量层面，人无法吸引任何自己感到疏离或分离的事物。一旦体会到那种圆满与达成的内在情绪，某种引力机制就会启动，事物便会主动向你靠拢。此时人们不需要疲于奔命地苦干，所谓的同步性（synchronicities）、巧合与机缘就会自然降临。 在量子场（Quantum field）中创造，与在物质层面上创造遵循着截然不同的法则。在三维物质现实中，许多人一想到财富，伴随而来的往往是“我目前还没有”的匮乏与焦虑；但在量子层面上，对财富的意念引发的应当是丰盛充盈的感觉。如果想要缩短“心中所想”与“现实体验”之间的距离，就绝不能站在匮乏的起点上发力，而必须从“圆满”（wholeness）的状态出发。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 两种不同的创造模式对比 accDescr: 对比三维物质世界的匮乏创造与量子场的圆满创造逻辑 subgraph Matter["三维物质现实创造 (Newtonian)"] A["感到匮乏与分离 (Lack)"] --> B["向外追寻与强行努力"] B --> C["消耗漫长的时间与体力"] end subgraph Quantum["量子场能量创造 (Quantum)"] D["内心感受目标已实现的圆满 (Wholeness)"] --> E["情绪消除疏离感 (No Separation)"] E --> F["能量同频吸引机缘与同步性 (Synchronicities)"] end ``` 此时，主持人 Steven Bartlett 提出了一个极具现实意义的疑虑：如果一个人不再生活在“渴望”和“匮乏”的驱动之中，他是否会彻底失去起床奋斗的动力？Steven 坦言反思自己的人生，当初正是因为内心强烈的匮乏感，才驱使他去创业、做播客、买跑车并拼命达成世俗目标。Dispenza 对此表示完全理解，他指出，依靠匮乏驱动在人生某个阶段是成立的，甚至“玩这种游戏”一段时间也没问题。他不在乎人们具体想创造什么——无论是金钱、豪车、度假还是豪宅，先去锻炼自己的显化与创造能力都是好事。然而，物质带来的新鲜感终究会消退，到那时，人们内心深处会渴望超越纯粹物质层面的更高意义。想要在量子维度真正创造，核心法则始终是：你必须先在内在感受它，才能在外在经历它。 --- ### [01:31:55](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=5515s) 赞助商插播：自然足部健康与智能运动恢复 节目穿插了两个与健康生活方式相关的赞助内容： - **Vivo Barefoot 赤足鞋**：Steven Bartlett 分享了哈佛大学 Daniel Lieberman 教授在播客中的观点，现代带有厚重缓震和支撑的鞋子实际上削弱了足部肌肉，剥夺了足部天然的灵活性，进而引发背痛和膝盖问题。Steven 提到自己曾饱受足底筋膜炎（plantar fasciitis）折磨，后来换上赤足鞋重新训练足部力量。英国利物浦大学（Liverpool University）的研究证实，连续穿着 Vivo Barefoot 6 个月，足部肌肉力量可提升高达 60%。 - **WHOOP 智能健康手环**：作为投资人与日常使用者的 Steven 讲述了自己近期爱上跑步的经历。他强调真正的进步不仅在于更努力，更在于更聪明地训练。根据 WHOOP 此前开展的“Project PR”研究显示，根据身体每日恢复评分调整训练强度的跑者，其 5 公里成绩平均提升了 2 分 40 秒，运动损伤风险降低了 30% 以上，而且所花费的训练时间反而更少。 --- ### [01:34:04](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=5644s) 破译“量子场”：超越三维感官的能量实相 当讨论重新回到 Dr. Joe Dispenza 频繁提及的“量子”（the Quantum）一词时，Steven Bartlett 笑着追问其具体含义，因为大众听到这个概念往往觉得玄奥莫测。Dispenza 开宗明义地给出一个颠覆性论断：人类感官所感知的物理现实，是宇宙真相的概率几乎为零。在不可见的非物质世界中蕴含的信息，远远超越了物质层面的总和。人体的感官极其受限，只能捕捉三维世界中的物体、地点、肉身和具体形象；但在微观层面，原子既是粒子（物质），又是波（能量），并且原子的构成中 99.999999% 是信息与能量，仅有 0.00000001% 是物理实体。 Dispenza 解释道，人类的大脑在千百年的进化与生存压力下，被塑造成了一种极度狭隘聚焦于物质世界的器官。当压力荷尔蒙激增时，感官被过度放大，人类就彻底变成了唯物主义者——毕竟，当你在原始森林面对霸王龙逃命或四处搜寻食物时，关注虚无缥缈的能量频率毫无意义。大脑无法直接感知能量与频率，它所感知的物质其实只是能量最稳定的一种投影与显化，感官将这些坍缩成看似坚固的实体。而“量子场”正是存在于感官之外、超越物质世界的能量与信息之场，其本质特征是**合一（Oneness）、完整（Wholeness）、深度联结（Connection）与纯粹的爱（Pure Love）**。 - 若将整个人生都死死锚定在身体、环境和时间上，就只能遵从牛顿经典力学（Newtonian physics）的铁律：耗费大量的时间和体力去一步一步预测、争取所需之物。 - 爱因斯坦曾明确断言：“场是粒子唯一的掌控机构”（The field is the sole governing agency of the particle）。能量主宰着物质，而不是物质主宰物质。改变了能量场中的信息，三维全息现实中的粒子投影才会随之改变。 --- ### [01:37:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=5830s) 穿过针眼：成为“无”才能融入纯粹意识 既然量子场超越了我们的肉身、外部环境与线性时间，那么要与它建立连接，唯一的途径就是彻底抽离所有的物质锚点。Dispenza 生动地描述了这个冥想与蜕变的过程：你必须将注意力从肉体上移开，从外部环境（所有人、事、物、地点）移开，从线性时间（预测性的未来与执迷的过去）移开，进而落入那个“慷慨的当下时刻”（generous present moment）。 在这个极具张力的临界点上，你将经历一次彻底的身份归零——成为： - **Nobody**（无名之辈 / 无人） - **No one**（空无一身） - **No thing**（无任何物质形态） - **Nowhere**（无所在之地） - **No time**（无时间之流） 这正是穿过灵性上的“针眼”（the eye of the needle）。Dispenza 打比方道：设想你依然活着，但瞬间失去了视力、听觉、嗅觉、味觉和身体触觉，剥离掉全部感官之后，剩下的你究竟是什么？答案就是“纯粹意识”（Pure Consciousness）。当意识不再聚焦于任何具象的事物，它便化作了那片虚空与真空。然而，这片看似空无一物的虚空，却蕴含着无与伦比的高频能量与无限信息。当人们放下名字、肤色、性别、饮食习惯、面容、过往经历、社会安全号码（Social Security Number）、职业身份以及父母或儿女的角色标签，安住在那片纯粹意识中时，量子维度的全新游戏才真正开始。 ### [01:38:53](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=5933s) 在量子场中创造：思想、情绪与相干性 当一个人能够放下旧有的自我角色，在虚无与未知的空间中感到安适时，真正的创造便拉开了序幕。如果宇宙的本质全都是频率与能量，那么下一步关键就是实现大脑与心灵的相干性（coherence）。思想是电荷，是投射向量子场的脉冲；而情绪、升华的情感则是磁荷。当你将一个清晰的思想意象与一种饱满的情绪相结合——也就是用相干的大脑与相干的心脏，去锚定一个未来的愿景时——你就向外广播出了一个全新的“Wi-Fi 信号”。你正在向统一场中传输全新的信息。 ```mermaid flowchart LR accTitle: 脑心相干创造机制 accDescr: 展示思想与情绪如何结合形成电磁信号并在量子场中显化为物质现实的流程 subgraph MindHeart ["身心相干状态"] Thought["思想 / 未来愿景<br>(电荷脉冲)"] Emotion["升华的情感 / 感受<br>(磁荷吸力)"] Coherence["脑心高度相干<br>(全新 Wi-Fi 信号)"] Thought --> Coherence Emotion --> Coherence end subgraph QuantumCreation ["量子场显化"] Field["量子场信息重塑<br>(振动频率匹配)"] Reality["缩短时间与空间<br>体验直接吸引至身边"] Coherence --> Field Field --> Reality end ``` Dr. Joe Dispenza 指出，只要持续改变注入该场域的信息，三维物理现实中的命运与经验就会发生彻底重组。当你的能量与量子场中的某种潜在可能性达成振动共鸣时，你是在万物的源头进行创造。既然你本身就处于源头，根本无需向外奔波去争夺或索取，事物自然会被吸引到你身边。这种从“场”而非从“物质”出发的创造方式，直接缩短了想要某种事物的想法与拥有它的体验之间的距离。这一过程的前提，是彻底跨越过去与未来的束缚，进入战胜自我的过程。在静修营的前几天，很多人会痛哭流涕地意识到自己过去的故事多么狭隘、曾经对某些有害情绪有多么上瘾，而只要静心面对自己足够久，他们就会产生不再想这样活下去的决绝。 --- ### [01:41:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=6060s) 负面情绪的成瘾性与生理代价 Steven Bartlett 对“人可能会对毫无益处的负面情绪上瘾”这一观点深感震撼。Dr. Joe 用一个极其直观的假设做了阐释：如果此刻你正处于暴怒或极度悲伤之中，有人走过来拍拍你的肩膀说：“嘿，停下来吧，别再生气了，彻底把它关掉。”如果你根本停不下来，那么在某种程度上，你就是对它上瘾了。如果你没有成瘾，你可以像关掉开关一样随手切断它。许多人正是通过这个简单的测试，才猛然惊醒自己其实深陷在情绪成瘾的牢笼中。 这种情绪成瘾的代价是极其沉重的。人类仅仅凭借思维本身，就能激活身体的压力反应系统；哪怕现实中风平浪静，仅仅是在脑海中反复回想困难与痛苦，身体就会产生与真实遭遇危险时完全相同的生物化学反应。长期暴露在压力激素之下，会导致基因表达下调（downregulation of genes），进而诱发各种器质性疾病。换言之，**你的想法能够让你生病**。 很多人之所以沉溺在悲伤、愤怒或恐惧中不愿抽离，是因为不幸往往带有一种病态的“舒适感”——不少人习惯甚至“享受”沉溺在不快乐的状态里。但无论情绪是否看似合理、无论有多大的理由感到委屈，承受这一切生物毒性的唯一受害者只有自己。唯有通过不断的试错与觉察，在情绪升起时抓住它并告诉自己：“这种情绪正让我通过过去的滤镜看世界，正下调我的基因并引发疾病，我绝不能任由自己留在这里。”当一个人能在极不想坐下来时，依然坐下来去重塑自己的情绪状态，他们才会真正建立起内在的尊严与自我价值。 --- ### [01:43:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=6210s) 人体内在的“超强药房”与群体相干性 当 Steven 询问在当下的所有研究与变革主题中，哪一个是本该被问到却尚未提及的最重要问题时，Dr. Joe 毫不犹豫地提出了一个直击现代医学核心的问题：“人类的自主神经系统是否能够制造出一个比任何药物都更有效的化学药房？”他的答案是百分之百确定的。这绝非伪科学，而是由他们采集的海量严谨科学数据所证明的事实。 - **传统药物试验对比**：一般药物临床试验的有效率约为 25%（即每 4 个人中只有 1 人出现积极反应），且通常需要在 60 至 90 天的长期服用周期后才能观察到效果。 - **自主神经系统的激活效率**：在其为期 7 天的深度活动中，产生积极生理学效应的人群比例高达 75%、84%、90% 甚至接近 100%。即使按最低的 75% 计算，其生理调节效果也是现有药物的 3 倍以上。 - **内在的生化逆转**：参与者没有服用任何药物，没有改变饮食习惯，但原本体内不存在的保护性生化分子在活动结束后大量涌现，这些完全来自人体自愈机能与意图的结合。 - **群体基因共振**：研究显示，在活动中近 80% 的参与者表达了相同的基因并合成了相同的蛋白质。Dr. Joe 强调“人能够改变人”，集体的观察者网络决定了现实形态；起决定性作用的不是现场人数的多寡，也不是能量的绝对量级，而是整个群体在意识与生理上达到的最高程度的相干性（coherence）。 --- ### [01:46:02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=6362s) 对更高力量与神性的理解 面对人体精密互联、宛如奇迹的生理机制，Steven 直言这一切只能用“神秘（mystical）”来形容，并询问 Dr. Joe 是否相信神的存在。Dr. Joe 坦言自己深信不疑：“我相信有一位神，但在这个‘一’之中包罗万象。”在他看来，神性并不在遥不可及的天外，而是鲜活地存在于每个人的内心之中。 对于每个人而言，人生最重要的事就是腾出时间去感知它、连接它、爱上它，并让这种觉知渗透到日常生活的方方面面。我们与这种力量互动得越多，它就越会融入我们，我们也越能成为它本身。所谓精神修行，本质上就是剥离那些阻碍我们与这股统一力量相连的帷幕——消除成瘾的情绪、旧习惯、思维盲点与内在障碍。无论人们将其称为统一场、神、绝对者、造物主、宇宙心灵、源头（Source）、奇点、零点场（Zero-point field）还是丰沃的虚空（fertile void），其核心本质都是纯粹的“爱”。 当神性通过一个人类个体得以彰显时，那个人绝不是冷漠或机械的，而是会表现出更高的意识水平、更敏锐的正念、更坚定的意志、更广博的爱与给予之心。Dr. Joe 总结道，我们绝非在过着线性生活的线性生物，而是生活在多维世界的多维存在；去腾出时间触碰、连接并最终成为这种宇宙的力量，是人类最值得奔赴的生命旅程。在访谈尾声，Steven 对 Dr. Joe 的工作表达了由衷的敬意，并指出这种身心科学与心灵探索的结合正是大众极为渴求的，同时也向听众极力推荐亲身参与其线下活动去见证彻底的蜕变。 ### [01:48:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=6517s) 闭幕邀约：亲眼见证蜕变后的“良性嫉妒” 随着访谈接近尾声，乔·迪斯本扎博士（Dr. Joe Dispenza）再次向主持人史蒂文·巴特利特（Steven Bartlett）发出真诚的线下静修营邀请，直言这不仅会带来意想不到的颠覆性转变，更保证“这会是你人生中最棒的一周”。史蒂文由衷地承认自己确实必须去体验一次，因为这件事一直萦绕在他的心头。他坦白道，自己亲眼目睹了乔博士的课程对自己女友产生的深远影响，这种惊人的蜕变甚至让他感到由衷的“嫉妒”；乔博士则风趣地回应，这属于最积极、最健康的“良性嫉妒（the good kind of jealousy）”。 ### [01:49:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=6540s) 深度对话卡牌与节目结语 在告别嘉宾后，史蒂文向观众介绍了《CEO日记》（The Diary Of A CEO）推出的对话卡牌。最艰难的对话往往是我们最想回避的，而这套卡牌正是为了打破僵局、开启深度联结而生。每位参与节目的嘉宾都会在日记中留下一道直击灵魂的问题，用于挑战并联结下一位嘉宾。卡牌正面印有提问内容与提问者姓名，背面附有二维码，扫码即可直接观看下一位嘉宾的现场回答。 - **三层递进维度**：整套卡牌共收录 51 道精心设计的深度问题，划分为“破冰预热（Warm-up）”、“敞开心扉（Open-up）”和“灵魂深潜（Deep）”三个难度等级，供使用者自主决定对话的深度。 - **多元适用场景**：无论是企业董事会会议室、深夜独处的卧室，还是初次约会的餐桌上，都能通过这些卡牌激发意想不到的真实交流。 ### [01:49:52](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=6592s) 听众支持与订阅承诺 史蒂文分享了一项令他颇感意外的频道数据：常态化收听节目的受众中，仍有高达 53% 的听众尚未点击订阅。他真诚地请求喜爱本节目的观众顺手按下订阅键，作为对团队最直接且完全免费的支持。作为回报，史蒂文承诺他与制作团队将竭尽全力持续提升节目质量，倾听受众反馈，并邀请大家最期盼对话的重磅嘉宾。 ## Notable quotes > [10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=600s) thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings are the language of the body — Dr. Joe Dispenza > [14:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=864s) The memory without the emotional charge is called wisdom — Dr. Joe Dispenza > [14:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=864s) my heart exploded, my heart blew wide open — Dr. Joe Dispenza > [29:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=1778s) 你的个人特质（Personality）正在创造你的个人现实（Personal Reality）；如果想要彻底创造一个崭新的个人现实，你必须首先脱胎换骨，改变你的个人特质。 — Dr. Joe Dispenza > [44:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=2657s) the overcoming process that is the becoming process — Dr. Joe Dispenza > [01:04:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=3882s) I don't want the magic to end — Dr. Joe Dispenza > [01:06:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=3996s) What sinks in the brain starts to link in the brain — Dr. Joe Dispenza > [01:24:21](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=5061s) knowledge is the precursor to the experience — Dr. Joe Dispenza > [01:34:04](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=5644s) The field is the sole governing agency of the particle — Dr. Joe Dispenza > [01:48:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs&t=6517s) the good kind of jealousy — Dr. Joe Dispenza ## Mentioned Dr. Joe Dispenza, Steven Bartlett, Becoming Supernatural: How Common People Are Doing the Uncommon, You Are the Placebo: Making Your Mind Matter, The Diary Of A CEO, UC San Diego, Harvard University, Stanford University, Navy SEALs, Give to Give Foundation, Intuit, TurboTax, Credit Karma, QuickBooks, Mailchimp, Wim Hof, Vivo Barefoot, Daniel Lieberman, Liverpool University, WHOOP, Albert Einstein ## Video description Dr Joe Dispenza is a researcher, lecturer, and corporate consultant who has developed a practical formula to help people transform their lives. He is also the best-selling author of books such as, ‘Becoming Supernatural: How Common People Are Doing the Uncommon’ and ‘You Are the Placebo: Making Your Mind Matter’. 00:00 Intro 02:10 What Do You Do? 06:57 Why Do People Come to You? 08:51 What Stops Us From Changing? 11:59 Don't Process the Past 16:24 What Are We Getting Wrong About Trauma in Modern Society? 21:49 Step 1: Insight, Awareness & Consciousness 22:36 How to Increase Your Awareness 25:20 The Meditation Process 29:38 How Meditation Takes You Out of Difficult Situations 35:09 Why Can't Some People Change? 40:26 Is the Identity We've Created Helping or Hurting Us? 44:17 You Need to Be Specific With Your Goals 47:17 Crazy Stories of War Veterans' Transformations 51:24 The Importance of Forgiveness 54:11 Should We Forgive Anyone No Matter What? 55:22 The Link Between Negative Feelings and Sickness 1:01:26 Ads 1:03:36 Is Routine Necessary in Our Lives? 1:04:42 The Brain and Heart Connection 1:06:36 Psychedelics and Medication 1:14:19 Advanced Meditators vs. Normal Meditators 1:22:22 The People Who Attend Your Retreats Are Changed Forever 1:25:52 What Is the Quantum? 1:34:08 The Overcoming Process 1:40:24 Joe's Religious Beliefs Follow Dr Joe: Instagram - https://g2ul0.app.link/PPP0kyubGRb Twitter - https://g2ul0.app.link/zhwtfrwbGRb Website - https://g2ul0.app.link/7WNr8CzbGRb YouTube - https://g2ul0.app.link/5oqnE1sbGRb Additional Content: https://stevenbartlett.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/DOAC-Joe-Dizpensa-Independent-research-further-reading.pdf You can watch Dr Joe’s documentary ‘SOURCE It’s Within You’, here: https://g2ul0.app.link/eBIUHNqpGRb Get your hands on the Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards here: https://bit.ly/conversationcards-youtube Follow me: https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb Sponsors: Intuit - https://www.intuit.com/careers/ Vivobarefoot - https://vivobarefoot.com/DOAC with code DOAC20 for 20% off WHOOP - https://JOIN.WHOOP.COM/CEO [Source](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hkYDjPSFs)

[10:00] Dr. Joe Dispenza: thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings are the language of the body [14:24] Dr. Joe Dispenza: The memory without the emotional charge is called wisdom [14:24] Dr. Joe Dispenza: my heart exploded, my heart blew wide open [29:38] Dr. Joe Dispenza: 你的个人特质（Personality）正在创造你的个人现实（Personal Reality）；如果想要彻底创造一个崭新的个人现实，你必须首先脱胎换骨，改变你的个人特质。 [44:17] Dr. Joe Dispenza: the overcoming process that is the becoming process [64:42] Dr. Joe Dispenza: I don't want the magic to end [66:36] Dr. Joe Dispenza: What sinks in the brain starts to link in the brain [84:21] Dr. Joe Dispenza: knowledge is the precursor to the experience [94:04] Dr. Joe Dispenza: The field is the sole governing agency of the particle [108:37] Dr. Joe Dispenza: the good kind of jealousy

[6:57] Dr. Joe Dispenza: Thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings are the language of the body... memory without the emotional charge is called wisdom. [47:17] Joshua: I got my life back. I got everything—my marriage is great again, I'm in love with my kids, I can feel again, I'm happy... I really feel a change. [74:19] Dr. Joe Dispenza: When a person starts to connect to energy, to frequency, and the thinking neocortex is dialed down, the moment they connect to that energy and frequency, the brain goes into these very, very high states of gamma brain wave patterns... The arousal is ecstasy, the arousal is bliss. [85:52] Dr. Joe Dispenza: I want them to walk out into the world and be the example so much so that people go, 'What's up with you? You seem different.' [88:00] Dr. Joe Dispenza: Some people spend their whole life in lack waiting for the thing to come around to take away the feeling of lack or separation. My message is actually to create in a different way in such a way that you feel like it has already happened. [90:52] Dr. Joe Dispenza: In the quantum, you've got to feel it to experience it. [101:30] Dr. Joe Dispenza: Is it possible that the human nervous system, the autonomic nervous system, manufactures a pharmacy of chemicals that works better than any drug? [104:19] Dr. Joe Dispenza: I think there's one God, but in that one, there's many.

[0:00] 75 to 90% of every person that walks [0:02] into a healthc care facility in the [0:04] Western World walks in because of [0:05] emotional or psychological stress we [0:07] also know that people become addicted to [0:10] the stress hormones to those emotions [0:11] and then they need the bad job they need [0:13] the bad relationship they need the [0:14] traffic they need the news just so that [0:16] they can stay in that emotional state [0:19] but now you're headed for disease [0:20] because no organism can live in [0:22] emergency mode for that extended period [0:24] of time but I literally can give people [0:26] the tools to be able to break those [0:28] emotional addictions and our data shows [0:30] it works better than any drug Dr Joe [0:32] dispenza is a world leading voice on the [0:35] power of the Mind whose groundbreaking [0:36] research has unlocked a practical [0:38] formula to empower millions of people to [0:40] rewire their minds and create [0:41] longlasting change if I'm looking to [0:43] change my life because it's in this [0:45] horrible cycle of the same old same old [0:47] and I feel about myself what do I need [0:49] to know I think that the first thing is [0:50] you can't tell me that your past was so [0:53] brutal that you can't change cuz we have [0:55] seen people with some really really [0:56] horrible pasts abuses difficult [0:59] childhoods some very serious traumas we [1:01] have seen them change that belief and [1:03] become completely different people but [1:05] also the research shows that 50% of the [1:08] story We Tell in our past isn't even the [1:10] truth that means that people are [1:11] reliving a miserable life they never [1:13] even had just to excuse themselves from [1:15] changing or they wait for something to [1:17] go wrong in their life and that's when [1:18] they go okay I'm ready to change why [1:21] wait for that you know we can learn and [1:22] change in a saate of pain and suffering [1:24] can learn and change in a state of joy [1:26] and inspiration and so I want to provide [1:28] people the information how to make new [1:30] Connections in their brain and be able [1:32] to think act and feel differently in [1:35] your same environment so let's break it [1:38] down this has always blown my mind a [1:41] little bit 53% of you that listen to the [1:43] show regularly haven't yet subscribed to [1:46] the show so could I ask you for a favor [1:48] before we start if you like the show and [1:49] you like what we do here and you want to [1:50] support us the free simple way that you [1:52] can do just that is by hitting the [1:53] Subscribe button and my commitment to [1:55] you is if you do that then I'll do [1:57] everything in my power me and my team to [1:59] make sure that this show is better for [2:00] you every single week we'll listen to [2:02] your feedback we'll find the guests that [2:04] you want me to speak to and we'll [2:05] continue to do what we do thank you so [2:08] [Music] [2:10] much Dr Joe how do you define when [2:14] someone asks you what it is you do I [2:17] teach people uh the neuroscience and the [2:21] biology of what it really means to [2:23] change and I think when we change our [2:25] life changes so my interest is to [2:29] demystify that process so that people [2:32] have within their reach the tools to [2:35] make measurable changes in their lives [2:37] and what is that you're drawing upon [2:39] what experiences what studies what [2:41] research you drawing upon to give the [2:44] world these Solutions I was interested [2:47] really in the transcendental experience [2:49] the transcendental moment um so when [2:53] when I started teaching this work um I [2:57] taught the work because people were [2:58] asking how do you do it like how do you [3:00] change your life and what does it mean [3:02] to change and [3:05] so I want to provide people the [3:08] information uh where they can actually [3:10] learn the information make new [3:12] Connections in their brain that's what [3:13] learning is repeat what they've learned [3:15] to the person next to them you know [3:17] build a model of understanding so you [3:19] can remember it remind yourself what [3:21] you've learned because it's so much [3:23] easier forget this information then to [3:25] remember it so create a new level of [3:28] mind um take away all the doubt the [3:31] conjecture the Superstition the [3:33] dogma and so that the person can [3:35] actually understand what they're doing [3:38] and why they're doing so the how gets [3:40] easier and when the how gets easier we [3:43] assign meaning to the act because we [3:45] understand what we're doing and when we [3:46] do that we want a greater outcome so I [3:49] want to give people the information and [3:51] I com I looked at all the latest [3:52] research that pointed the finger at [3:54] human potential and human [3:57] possibility I had my own personal [3:59] experience with a personal injury we [4:00] talked about it last time I studied [4:02] spontaneous remissions I wanted to see [4:04] what people had in common with each [4:06] other and I couldn't find the [4:10] explanation pretty much in contemporary [4:13] uh uh texts I had to start looking at [4:15] neuroplasticity and epigenetics and then [4:18] I wanted to see well now that I know [4:20] what people did and I understood what [4:22] they did to have their own personal [4:24] healings and [4:25] transformation um could I reproduce the [4:28] effects that no knowing what they did [4:31] finding out what the commonalities were [4:34] uh putting it in the language of Science [4:35] and then teaching it to people they [4:37] could be sick or they could be well it [4:39] wouldn't matter but understand what they [4:42] did in order for them to change and have [4:43] their life change and after a couple [4:46] years of teaching it we started to see [4:49] kind of the same type of effects uh in [4:52] those people that were applying and [4:53] doing something with it so so this is a [4:56] time in history where it's not enough to [4:58] know this is a time in history to know [5:00] how so when we started seeing people [5:03] stepping out of wheelchairs and having [5:06] dramatic changes in their health I knew [5:09] that in some moment uh during the [5:11] retreat or during their [5:14] meditation [5:16] that something happened to them they had [5:18] an experience inwardly that must have [5:21] changed them biologically in other words [5:24] if you come into a an event and uh you [5:26] have three days to be together and at [5:28] the end of three days you're you're no [5:30] longer in your wheelchair and you no [5:31] longer have symptoms of MS that you know [5:34] the the human being in me said wow [5:36] that's amazing the scientists and me [5:38] said how like how did that [5:40] happen so that's when we started doing [5:43] our own independent research and that's [5:44] when I started calling in N scientists [5:47] and um you know biologists and and [5:50] Quantum physicists and and and really [5:53] scientists to measuring it heart rate [5:56] variability uh to look to see what was [5:59] going on uh in people that were coming [6:01] to our events so I could answer the [6:04] question by saying now that the majority [6:07] of the [6:08] research uh that I look at is our own [6:10] personal research and we have the [6:11] largest [6:12] database uh in the world now on [6:15] meditation and the Mind Body Connection [6:17] and what we do is we really work on [6:21] demystifying the process of change and [6:24] transformation and if we're able to [6:26] demystify it I think all the all of the [6:30] measurements of the transformation that [6:32] we're seeing is more information for me [6:35] to teach transformation better and I [6:36] think that's how we close the gap [6:38] between knowledge and experience so we [6:40] have a huge research team we work with [6:42] UC San Diego we work with other [6:44] universities like Harvard Stanford and [6:47] the data is so compelling uh and the [6:50] data is so amazing uh that um uh I think [6:55] we're making scientific history right [6:56] now hundreds of millions of people have [6:58] been drawn to you for their own reasons [7:00] my partner is one of them my girlfriend [7:02] she has attended your events she's she's [7:04] one of your biggest fans in the world [7:05] and she's experienced her own [7:07] transformation as a product of attending [7:08] your events but also last conversation [7:11] if I look at the co top comments it's [7:13] just a string of testimonials from [7:14] people who have been engaged with your [7:16] work for decades who have had personal [7:17] transformation in their life in their [7:19] family what is the essence of why people [7:22] come to you like if you think about the [7:24] hundreds of millions of people that have [7:25] interacted with your work what do they [7:27] have in common what is it they're [7:29] looking for people come for all kinds of [7:31] reasons the Baseline is that they [7:33] understand on some level that that [7:36] meditation can change their body and [7:38] change their life some people uh [7:41] understand that there's a that they [7:43] could have mystical experiences without [7:45] using any exogenous substances so we [7:48] have people to come that come that want [7:49] to heal their body that want to have a [7:52] new job or a new career or become [7:54] abundant people that want to have loving [7:57] relationships some people want to have [7:58] mystical experiences whatever that is [8:01] right but the person is coming with the [8:03] intention of actually creating exactly [8:05] what they want so they that's the that's [8:09] what they think they're there for but in [8:12] time um what they're really coming for [8:16] is to change uh and um even the people [8:19] who heal from all kinds of health [8:22] conditions what I learned in the last [8:24] couple years is they're not doing their [8:26] meditations to heal they're doing their [8:28] meditations to change and when they [8:31] change they heal and so what they begin [8:34] to Crave is the next unknown experience [8:38] you know that that experience that [8:39] exists really Beyond three-dimensional [8:42] reality but but I would say that the [8:44] majority of people come for a particular [8:46] reason and after a period of time they [8:48] just want to get more whole and I don't [8:50] think there's an end to that is there a [8:52] bug in our minds or in our society or [8:53] within culture that stands in the way of [8:56] our ability to change and I think as I [8:58] asked that question question what I'm [9:00] really trying to get at is there's a [9:01] culture that's emerged almost like a bit [9:02] of a trauma culture where we we kind of [9:05] explain who we are based on what's [9:07] happened to us and it seems to be [9:09] justified I this thing happened when I [9:10] was a kid and that's why I am this way [9:13] is that approach to viewing our trauma [9:16] productive or unproductive and is it a [9:19] problem the stronger the emotion we feel [9:23] from some event in our life a trauma a [9:27] betrayal a loss a shock [9:30] um a [9:31] diagnosis the the event produces an [9:35] emotional response and the high quotient [9:39] of the emotional response changes our [9:41] internal State and the moment we feel [9:44] altered inside of us the brain takes a [9:47] snapshot freezes a frame or a series of [9:50] frames and takes snapshots and that's [9:51] called a long-term [9:53] memory so then from a biological [9:56] perspective every time the person rememb [10:00] the problem they're producing the exact [10:03] same chemistry in their brain and body [10:06] as if the event was happening cortisol [10:08] the adrenaline whatever the emotion is [10:10] when they feel that emotion we could say [10:13] then that the body is reliving the event [10:17] emotionally 50 to 100 times in a day so [10:22] the trauma is no longer in the brain at [10:25] that point now the trauma is also in the [10:27] body because thoughts are the language [10:29] of the brain brain and feelings are the [10:31] language of the body and it's that [10:33] thought and that feeling it's that image [10:35] and that emotion it's that stimulus and [10:37] response that's conditioning the body [10:39] subconsciously to become the mind of [10:41] that emotion and now that person [10:44] emotionally is a brand branded into the [10:47] past and you can say to them why are you [10:50] this way why are you so angry why are [10:52] you so bitter why are you so mistrusting [10:55] why are you so afraid and they'll say to [10:57] you I am this way [11:00] because of these events or that event [11:02] that happened to me in my life 20 or 30 [11:05] years ago now this is kind of an [11:07] interesting thing because in a sense [11:09] their [11:11] identity is completely connected to [11:14] their past and they as long as they feel [11:18] that [11:18] emotion uh they'll always remember the [11:21] past so [11:23] now the body is so objective when it [11:27] feels that emotion it does not know the [11:29] difference between the real life [11:30] experience that's creating the emotion [11:33] and the emotion that person is [11:34] fabricating by thought alone so now the [11:37] body's believing it's living in the past [11:39] event 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 [11:41] days a year but what the person is [11:43] really saying is after that event I [11:46] haven't been able to [11:47] change that's what they're saying and [11:51] so that becomes the person's identity [11:54] and there's nothing wrong with this but [11:56] you'll never hear me say uh in any of [11:59] the work that we do uh go back and [12:02] process the past [12:05] um uh we we've discovered that when a [12:07] person [12:09] analyzes uh their problems uh within the [12:12] emotions of the past they make their [12:15] brain worse they actually drive it [12:17] further out of balance they're they're [12:19] over arousing it we discovered is that [12:22] if the person can get beyond the [12:26] emotion truly get beyond the emotion [12:29] uh they'll free themselves from the past [12:32] and what we discovered is that if you [12:35] teach a person to give up the [12:37] fear the bitterness the resentment the [12:40] frustration the impatience the Judgment [12:43] you say stop feeling that emotion I know [12:45] there's a reason why I'm sure [12:47] everybody's got a story right so but [12:51] there's nothing that's going to change [12:52] that story until you change right and so [12:55] we discovered that if you trade those [12:58] emotions [12:59] for an elevated emotion if you start [13:02] feeling gratitude and appreciation and [13:06] love and kindness and care and you [13:08] practice feeling that emotion we give [13:10] you some tools to to use to change your [13:13] breathing to put your attention a a [13:15] different place and to work with your [13:17] body what we discovered is when the [13:19] person can truly begin to open their [13:22] heart and we have brain scans on this [13:25] when the heart begins to open and it [13:27] begins to become coherent in other words [13:29] when you're feel feeling uh frustration [13:31] or impatience or judgment your heart is [13:33] beating very incoherently when you're [13:35] feeling love and gratitude kindness and [13:37] Care there's a rhythm there's a there's [13:40] a Cadence that the heart has that's it's [13:42] very coherent when the heart gets [13:44] coherent we measure [13:46] this it immediately informs the brain [13:50] that the trauma is over the heart tells [13:53] the brain the past is over the event is [13:55] over and it resets the [13:57] Baseline uh in the brain and so now the [14:00] person when they look back at their past [14:04] they're no longer looking at it from the [14:06] same level of Consciousness in fact many [14:08] of them will say oh my God I needed to [14:11] go through all of that to get to this [14:15] point right here they'll tell you they [14:17] they'll they'll say I wouldn't want to [14:18] change one thing in my past because it [14:21] got me to the present moment okay [14:24] so we work with Navy Seals special ops [14:28] prisoners we work with people uh that [14:31] have had some very serious traumas [14:34] really serious abuses uh um uh just [14:40] difficult childhoods uh these people are [14:42] you know night terrors uh [14:45] suicidal um can't you know leave their [14:48] homes uh socially [14:51] uh having trouble panic attacks it's [14:54] kind of funny because the moment that [14:57] person actually breaks through from the [15:00] emotion and the words they typically [15:03] describe was they say was like my heart [15:06] exploded it's like my heart blew wide [15:08] open the moment that happens they're [15:11] bringing their body right out of the [15:14] past right into the present moment and [15:17] lo and behold many times there goes the [15:20] anxiety there goes the depression there [15:21] goes the cyclic mood patterns somehow [15:23] the body uh gets recalibrated back into [15:26] order back into homeostasis so [15:29] the point I'm making is is that the [15:31] memory without the emotional charge is [15:33] called wisdom and now you're you're [15:36] ready for the next adventure in your [15:38] life the soul can't go to the next [15:40] adventure if it's holding on to the past [15:43] so we don't really ever address the [15:46] story because the story is only firing [15:48] and wiring the same circuits in the [15:50] brain reaffirming the identity to the [15:52] Past just to feel the same emotion and [15:55] the research shows that 50% of the story [15:57] We Tell in our past is is even the truth [16:00] that means that people are reliving a [16:02] miserable life they never even had just [16:04] to excuse themselves from changing right [16:07] I'm not taking shots at anybody but what [16:09] I am saying is you can't tell me that [16:12] your past was so brutal that you can't [16:14] change CU we have seen people with some [16:17] really really horrible pasts um that [16:20] literally literally are are completely [16:21] different people that have completely [16:23] different lives I really want to focus [16:25] in on what it is we're getting wrong [16:26] when we're trying to treat trauma in [16:30] modern society because I see all of [16:32] these Retreats that are like inner child [16:34] healing and they kind of take you back [16:37] to when you were a young child the thing [16:39] that happened to you whatever happened [16:40] in your life and they kind of walk you [16:41] back through it um there's also various [16:45] types of therapy that make you kind of [16:46] recount the events and then they ask you [16:48] questions about it you're saying that [16:50] you don't feel like those approaches are [16:52] optimal because they just keep you in [16:53] that circuit of living reliving the [16:55] emotion no I I wouldn't say they're not [16:57] optimal I mean I'm sure there's value [16:59] for people all I'm saying is that um [17:02] when does the story end and I'm not [17:05] certain that [17:07] Insight changes Behavior you could have [17:10] a realization or even from an exogenous [17:12] drug you can have a realization or an [17:14] Insight but if you still can't function [17:16] in your life and you're still you know [17:18] you're haven't connected with your wife [17:20] or you know you're still dealing with [17:21] trauma it just hasn't served you at all [17:23] like so the Insight that your your [17:26] father was overbearing or your mother [17:28] was a perfectionist or you were beaten [17:30] as a kid uh and that's why you're this [17:32] way it doesn't change the behavior let [17:34] me give you an example then from my life [17:36] because this will make it really [17:37] specific so when I was young something [17:38] I've talked about on the show but it's [17:39] just an example that allows me to Think [17:41] Through um your approach my mom and dad [17:45] argued a lot and I would watch my mother [17:47] in particular spend a lot of time [17:50] shouting at my dad my dad didn't really [17:52] respond he was very passive and it made [17:54] me feel a certain way as a young child [17:56] which meant that when I grew up I just [17:57] wanted to avoid women all cost in terms [17:59] of romantic commitment because I was [18:01] almost reliving the emotion of [18:04] imprisonment that I observed in my [18:06] father so I felt like when a girl was [18:08] interested in me throughout all of my [18:09] teen years throughout my early 20s even [18:11] if I was interested in her the minute we [18:12] came to Commitment I'd get that feeling [18:15] like I was signing up for prison and I [18:17] would reject now I got an insight into [18:21] this by writing in my diary actually [18:22] from doing this podcast because I used [18:23] to do it on my own just solo episodes [18:25] and I could see a pattern I could see [18:27] that someone asks me to commit I get [18:30] this weird feeling I reject them and [18:32] then I asked myself where did that weird [18:34] feeling come from in your past and I [18:36] remembered oh that's how I felt watching [18:38] my father and my mom when she would just [18:42] um scream at him for long periods of [18:43] time I had the Insight which was [18:46] somewhat useful but you're right in that [18:47] it didn't necessarily stop stop the [18:50] feeling but but what you did really well [18:53] is is in order for us to [18:55] change we have to become so conscious [18:59] of those unconscious beliefs and what's [19:01] a belief thought you just keep thinking [19:03] over and over again or how you've been [19:04] programmed right as a belief we have to [19:07] become so aware of our automatic habits [19:10] and behaviors and we have to pay [19:12] attention to our emotional states if [19:14] we're going to change and staying [19:16] conscious of our unconscious self is is [19:18] is really the the work that it takes to [19:21] really overcome so you can become [19:23] another person that's 95% of a person by [19:27] the the middle of their life their you [19:29] know hardwired attitudes beliefs and [19:31] perceptions automatic habits and [19:33] behaviors and unconscious emotional [19:35] responses 95% of us as programmed so as [19:38] a child your brain waves are um very [19:41] slow the door between the conscious mind [19:43] and the subconscious mind is wide open [19:45] your brain waves are in Alpha and Theta [19:48] and so you're very suggestible to to the [19:50] information and so your exposure to that [19:53] cause you to learn that that you know [19:55] your observation causes you to get [19:57] programmed to that the way life is by by [20:00] Mir neurons looking at behaviors that [20:04] are being programmed in you so so but [20:06] that's not who you are right so the fact [20:09] that you became conscious like oh my God [20:11] I do this oh my God I see where I got it [20:15] from okay that doesn't mean that that [20:17] I'm going to excuse myself and say I [20:19] can't be in relationships you could some [20:21] people do that might be a different [20:23] belief but they do that but you said I [20:26] really want to have a meaningful [20:27] relationship I really want to overcome [20:29] this that is part of me that I want to [20:31] change right so so you recognize that [20:33] that's called metacognition right the [20:36] the fact that you can objectify your [20:38] subjective self and observe yourself [20:40] that's Consciousness right and when [20:42] you're conscious then that's when you're [20:44] not [20:45] unconscious and being unconscious is [20:47] being in the program so how many times [20:49] do we have to forget until we stop [20:51] forgetting and start remembering that's [20:53] the moment of change so you said okay [20:54] that's [20:56] uncomfortable that must mean something [20:59] and you actually went on a a personal [21:01] exploration yeah do something with the [21:04] Insight with the provocation with the [21:07] interest of actually wanting to change [21:09] yourself in some way so that you create [21:12] a a greater experience of life that [21:15] there is love in life and that you can [21:17] have a committed relationship and it [21:19] could be different from your parents and [21:20] now you know what you're not going to be [21:22] right so I think all of that is valuable [21:26] I think every experience that we have in [21:29] our life that programs us to be a [21:32] certain way sooner or later if we're if [21:34] we're interested in arriving at the [21:36] goals and dreams that we want there's we [21:39] have to leave that behind sooner or [21:40] later a part of us Must Die uh as sooner [21:44] or later we have to leave that so I [21:46] think you I think that's that's [21:48] Evolution that first is the first step [21:50] Insight like is this a a sequential [21:53] multi-step process to change I think [21:56] that I think Insight is an AS ECT of um [22:00] awareness so is awareness States yeah so [22:03] Consciousness is awareness and awareness [22:05] is paying attention and [22:06] noticing so I think that I think the [22:09] first step is to become conscious um [22:12] that we're a certain way and sometimes [22:14] it lands as an Insight or a download or [22:17] a life experience that just kind of goes [22:20] you go wo like you know so I I I behaved [22:24] this way or I did this thing so so I [22:27] think I think when you you don't have [22:29] that you don't have a conscience and you [22:31] can just and you can just keep staying [22:33] in that world and but but sooner or [22:34] later uh you have to become aware how do [22:37] I increase my awareness by paying [22:39] attention is there a practice or a [22:43] system or a process yeah yeah but [22:47] what what we know is that that the the [22:50] more you practice being present the [22:53] better you get at it okay and so how do [22:56] you do that if you sit in a meditation [22:59] right and so there's a mode in the brain [23:02] called default mode and it's just always [23:04] busy it's consuming enormous amounts of [23:07] energy in the brain and it's always [23:09] trying to predict the future based on [23:11] what it knows in the past it's a kind of [23:13] an anticipation machine it's always [23:16] trying to um fill in a known in reality [23:19] so we feel safe [23:23] so a default mode system in the brain [23:26] when you close your eyes on a meditation [23:28] is going going to immediately go into [23:29] overdrive it's going to say oh my back [23:31] hurts a little bit I'm kind of thirsty [23:34] how long's this going to go I really [23:35] don't want to do this I don't like the [23:36] music you know uh is it's might be too [23:39] long oh I'm starting to get a little [23:40] frustrated I want to lay down you know [23:42] all this stuff comes up and then people [23:44] have the belief and they say I can't [23:46] meditate that's that's their conclusion [23:49] from The Experience that's their I'm not [23:51] a good meditator that's their [23:52] affirmation that's their belief right [23:54] from that experience but if you say to a [23:56] person listen that's normal [23:58] but every time you catch [24:00] yourself going unconscious catch [24:03] yourself going unconscious and become [24:06] conscious that's a [24:08] victory and as tedious as it may be in [24:12] the [24:13] beginning the more you catch yourself [24:16] going unconscious and becoming conscious [24:17] the more conscious you become in your [24:19] life and and all of a sudden you begin [24:21] to pay attention to things that you [24:23] weren't paying attention to before so in [24:27] the work that we do we say that being in [24:30] the present moment truly in the present [24:32] moment is being comfortable in the [24:36] unknown right the present moment is the [24:38] unknown because there is the familiar [24:41] past that we feel emotionally and we [24:43] have the predictable future which are [24:45] both the [24:46] knowns being the present moment is being [24:49] the unknown and that goes against [24:51] thousands of years of programming [24:53] because our biology is programmed that [24:56] if we are truly the unknown we should be [24:59] in survival because if you're in [25:02] survival and you're in the fight ORF [25:03] flight system the unknown is a threat [25:06] it's a danger so always try to predict [25:09] the future based on the past and you'll [25:11] have better chances of survival predict [25:13] the worst case scenario be ready for [25:16] that anything less that happens you have [25:17] better chance of [25:18] surviving so then to rest in the unknown [25:22] goes against a lot of our biology and we [25:26] discovered that when a person keeps [25:27] doing it over and over again the body [25:29] gets agitated it gets frustrated it gets [25:32] impatient instead of the person saying I [25:35] quit give them something to do and they [25:37] can lower the volume to the emotion and [25:41] settle the animal down like training an [25:43] animal setting settling the body back [25:46] down into the present moment we we teach [25:48] people how to do that and that's the [25:50] victory giving them something to do yeah [25:52] they have it they have something to do [25:53] when that comes up okay which is I I'll [25:56] get to it in a second and if they catch [25:58] their mind going from a person to [26:00] another person to another object to [26:02] their cell phone to their computer to a [26:03] place they need to be and you know a [26:05] time and know their they catch [26:07] themselves with their brain firing in [26:10] modulated [26:12] compartments if they keep catching [26:14] themselves doing that if they keep doing [26:16] that and they they catch the circuit [26:18] when it's firing and they settle it down [26:20] in time sooner later they're going to [26:22] stop firing those circuits in the brain [26:25] and their brain waves begin to change [26:28] change from an agitated aroused State [26:31] into a more coherent and slower brain [26:33] wave state so when they do this enough [26:36] times the brain begins to synchronize [26:39] the brain begins to fire in Greater [26:41] levels of wholeness or greater levels of [26:43] order so when that occurs then the [26:46] nervous system gets very regulated gets [26:49] very orderly the autonomic nervous [26:51] system moves into a state of [26:53] regulation disregulation of the [26:55] autonomic nervous system is called [26:56] stress right so so to answer your [27:01] question when people do this really well [27:04] in just a few days they'll get really [27:06] good at it the side effect of that is [27:08] they get very relaxed in their heart [27:11] it's relaxed in the heart and it's awake [27:14] in the brain and the more relaxed you [27:16] get in your heart we've discovered [27:18] really relaxing into your heart the more [27:20] the heart informs the brain to get [27:22] creative and so now the person has this [27:25] kind of synchronization that's taking [27:27] place between their part in their brain [27:28] as well and they can rest in the present [27:33] moment [27:35] so the way you do that is you define [27:40] what it really means to change and to [27:42] change is to be greater than the [27:45] conditions in your environment to be [27:47] able to think act and feel differently [27:51] in your same environment that's what [27:53] change is to change is to be greater [27:55] than your body to be greater than its Dy [27:58] lives in the meditation I'm speaking [28:00] specifically greater than its emotional [28:03] responses its memories its emotional [28:06] reactions greater than its habits The [28:09] Habit is when you've done something so [28:10] many times the body knows how to do it [28:13] better than the conscious mind there [28:14] that's so so if you're sitting in a [28:16] meditation your body wants to get up and [28:17] wants to get going and got people to see [28:19] things to do that's kind of like [28:21] automatic right and people get up and [28:23] they say I can't meditate but if you [28:25] tell them that when you notice that you [28:28] bring your body back into the present [28:30] moment you settle it down and tell it [28:34] it's no longer the mind that you're the [28:35] mind you're training the animal sooner [28:37] or later the body literally responds to [28:39] a new mind and there's literally a [28:41] liberation of energy the body begins to [28:43] liberate energy and if the person's not [28:46] thinking about time if you're not [28:49] thinking about where you need to be [28:51] where you need to go where you were [28:53] yesterday where you're sitting where you [28:55] live you know if you're not thinking [28:57] about any place you can go from [29:00] somewhere to nowhere and if you're not [29:02] thinking about the predictable future or [29:04] the familiar past you can go from [29:05] sometime to no time and we discovered [29:08] when a person becomes nobody no one no [29:11] thing nowhere and no time they literally [29:14] become pure Consciousness and opening [29:17] our awareness I know this is kind of [29:19] difficult to explain because we're [29:22] materialists opening our awareness to [29:25] nothing and sensing space [29:29] tends to cause us to move more into the [29:33] Eternal present moment and there's a [29:35] change that takes place in the brain so [29:37] we teach that and what awareness comes [29:39] out of that state so if I'm looking to [29:41] change my life because you know I'm [29:43] continually performing habits that are [29:45] not optimal you know I want to be [29:48] married and have a family and I want to [29:50] be productive in my work and I want to [29:51] go to the gym and Etc and my life is [29:53] just in this horrible cycle of the same [29:56] old same old same old and I feel [29:57] about about myself I know what I say I [30:00] want but I feel about myself what's [30:03] going to emerge from that process of [30:04] deep meditation in ter of awareness [30:07] you'll become so conscious of those [30:10] unconscious habits that more than likely [30:12] you won't want to do them again and [30:15] that's what uh uh for the most part [30:17] change is about so I think [30:20] people wait for crisis you know they [30:22] wait for disease they wait for a [30:25] betrayal something to go wrong in their [30:27] life and that's when they go okay I'm [30:29] ready to change my message is why wait [30:32] dude like why wait for that you know we [30:34] can learn and change in a state of pain [30:36] and suffering we can learn and change in [30:38] a state of joy and inspiration so then [30:41] you get a collective group of people [30:43] together that really may have all those [30:45] bad habits they they they may even have [30:47] bad habits that they don't even know [30:49] they [30:50] have and then all of a sudden they [30:52] become aware that they've been blaming [30:53] and complaining and making excuses and [30:55] feeling sorry for themselves and [30:57] procrastinating [30:59] and they start to reason if my [31:01] personality creates my personal reality [31:03] if I'm going to create a new personal [31:04] reality I got to change my personality [31:07] because this guy that that that's this [31:10] isn't the guy that wants to be happy [31:13] this is the guy who's committed to being [31:15] unhappy okay let's break it down let's [31:18] get down the fundamentals and now we [31:21] give them a road map of their thoughts [31:24] behaviors and emotions that that they [31:26] have lived by is that step two person [31:29] yeah you could say that step two is is [31:31] becoming conscious of your unconscious [31:33] self and then becoming conscious of a [31:35] new self Reinventing a new self and so [31:39] the person who's feeling really bad [31:41] about themselves because they're not [31:44] they're not doing anything to change [31:46] it's just [31:47] because um when you're not changing [31:50] you're still choosing uh but what you're [31:53] choosing is something that makes you [31:55] feel familiar and comfortable because [31:58] the moment you decide to change truly [32:00] get serious about change the moment you [32:04] decide to make a different choice and do [32:07] something differently you are going to [32:10] feel uncomfortable it's going to be [32:11] immediate and that's the moment you go [32:13] from the known into the unknown now if [32:16] the body has been emotionally [32:17] conditioned to be the mind like we [32:19] talked about earlier the servant is the [32:21] master and so the person who steps out [32:23] into the unknown and it feels [32:25] uncomfortable what is the body going to [32:26] say get back to [32:28] suffering get back to feeling bad get [32:31] back to feeling guilty at least that's [32:33] familiar that's known so tell a person [32:35] there's going to be a biological death [32:37] of the old self neurologically [32:39] chemically hormonally genetically [32:41] there's the old self is going to die [32:42] just know that that's going to happen [32:45] but instead of white knuckling it across [32:47] the river of change we're going to give [32:49] you something to do because that unknown [32:51] place is the perfect place to create in [32:53] so let's get you into the unknown but [32:55] let's get you there where you're relaxed [32:57] and awake [32:58] you're not escaping and if you do that [33:01] really well you're you'll be in a [33:02] creative state so you actually will be [33:05] out of survival and you'll be able to [33:07] create because you could only be in [33:09] survival or creation can't be in both so [33:11] let's get your body physiologically back [33:14] in the balance let's get it there now [33:16] who do you want to be what do you want [33:17] to believe let's review that what's a [33:20] belief a thought you keep thinking over [33:21] and over in your brain keep remembering [33:23] to think this way in your meditation how [33:25] am I going to be with my ex or my boss [33:27] let me close my eyes and think about [33:29] what greatness looks like what [33:31] forgiveness would do what love would do [33:34] let me just let me close my eyes and [33:36] mentally rehearse how I'm going to be in [33:38] that circumstance I'm going to keep [33:39] remembering to do these things so I [33:43] don't forget keep doing it over and over [33:44] again you start installing the hardware [33:47] repeat it enough times it gets like a [33:49] software program you start behaving that [33:50] way [33:51] automatically and then my goodness is it [33:54] possible to teach our body emotionally [33:56] how we do want to feel before it happens [33:59] in other words don't wait for your [34:00] wealth to feel abundant or your your [34:02] success to feel empowered or your [34:04] healing to feel wholeness that's waiting [34:06] for something in your outer World to [34:08] Change to take away the The Emptiness or [34:10] lack that you're feeling in your inner [34:11] World teach your body emotionally what [34:14] it feels like ahead of the actual [34:16] experience and the moment you start [34:18] feeling abundant you're generating [34:20] wealth the moment you can embody [34:23] empowerment you're stepping towards your [34:25] your success the moment you feel [34:28] grateful and whole be The Healing Begins [34:31] right so now you're starting to cause an [34:33] effect in your life so have the person [34:35] keep remembering to feel that way and [34:37] have them practice sooner or later [34:39] they'll start feeling that way more and [34:41] the more they feel that way the more [34:42] they'll believe in their future and some [34:45] people get so good at doing it that they [34:47] walk around feeling that emotion they [34:49] feel like their future has already [34:51] happened and when you feel like the [34:53] future has already happened you stop [34:55] looking for it and that's when the magic [34:56] starts to take place in people's lives [34:59] the synchronicities the coincidences the [35:02] opportunities they start coming to them [35:04] in their life and and that's the [35:06] reflection of their own personal [35:08] change I've seen thousands and thousands [35:11] tens of thousands of testimonials of [35:13] people saying jod sper CH changed my [35:15] life I mean I've got one at home right [35:18] got a testimonial that I live with um [35:21] I'm sorry no it's no honestly I I love [35:23] it because she's so she's probably back [35:25] there somewhere but she's so passate and [35:28] inquisitive and curious that I almost [35:31] vicariously am benefiting from the like [35:32] work and research she's doing and she's [35:34] bringing things into our relationship in [35:35] life that are making it more rich and [35:37] full and I have a certain perspective [35:39] which I wouldn't naturally go into that [35:42] world and even with breath work and the [35:43] other things that she's brought into our [35:45] relationship I wouldn't have naturally [35:47] gone there so it's super useful but [35:49] there must be instances where you've met [35:51] someone and you've tried to help them [35:54] and you've been unsuccessful of course [35:57] and [35:58] why don't those people change because [36:01] I'm assuming that you think most people [36:02] can change they have the propensity to [36:04] change why does it not work [36:08] sometimes and scientists asked me this [36:10] you know we talk about this all the time [36:13] uh sometimes uh being in such severe [36:17] lack uh of and Desperation desperation [36:22] you know uh creates a state where you [36:24] can't hear anything um because you you [36:28] don't you no new [36:30] information can enter the nervous system [36:33] that is not equal to the emotion the [36:35] person is experiencing as an ex just as [36:37] a broad understanding this is why we [36:39] don't do questions in our [36:41] events because you can give the person [36:44] the answer to the question that they're [36:47] asking you and they will not hear you [36:49] they will not hear you in fact they will [36:51] argue against you but if you get that [36:54] person out of that emotional state and [36:56] the only person that's going to do that [36:57] is them by the way get that person out [37:00] of their emotional state they can hear [37:02] that information so sometimes we're [37:05] programmed into such lack we're [37:07] programmed right to wait for something [37:10] out there to change to take away this [37:12] emptiness or lack you know when this [37:14] happens I'll feel this you know and so [37:16] when things are good in our life we feel [37:18] good and when things aren't so good in [37:20] our life we feel bad so we're kind of [37:22] victimized to the circumstances in our [37:24] life it's our outer world is controlling [37:27] our inner world of thoughts and feelings [37:31] so if the person has been programmed [37:33] into saying um I I I I I I why haven't I [37:38] healed or why hasn't this happened in my [37:42] life because the person who's saying why [37:45] haven't I healed is the old self the new [37:47] self would never say that right the new [37:49] self is too busy overcoming and becoming [37:52] right so I think people meet [37:55] information uh at their own level but [37:58] what I can tell you that is so [38:00] compelling and so [38:02] exciting is that when we get people on [38:05] the stage and it happens every event [38:08] it's it's [38:09] really quite [38:11] unbelievable to see a person stand on [38:14] the stage in front of 2300 people you [38:17] would walk right past her in the grocery [38:19] store um she doesn't look vegan she [38:22] doesn't look ketogenic she doesn't look [38:24] particularly fit or young or dressed [38:26] well you know whatever that is she just [38:28] looks like a normal person and they [38:31] stand on the stage and they tell their [38:34] story of how they were diagnosed with [38:37] cancer or um whatever the condition is [38:41] and what they did uh in their life to [38:44] change those health conditions and [38:46] there's numerous health [38:48] conditions when I look out in the [38:50] audience uh and I look at people uh [38:54] there isn't a soul in the audience that [38:55] isn't leaning in everybody is leaning in [38:59] because there's the example of Truth on [39:01] the stage and there's nothing like a [39:03] good story right so the change that [39:07] we're seeing in our community is that [39:09] there's a greater [39:11] acceptance a greater belief a greater [39:16] understanding a greater awareness to the [39:18] idea that you could actually heal [39:19] because people witness it and the person [39:22] in the audience who's seeing that person [39:24] who healed themselves from whatever [39:26] health condition it is [39:28] relates to them and they say my God if [39:31] if that person can do it I can do it as [39:34] well and just like an infection spreads [39:37] amongst the culture and creates disease [39:39] health and wellness can become as [39:42] infectious as disease right and so we [39:44] have it's not [39:45] uncommon like when that person stands on [39:48] the stage and they're the 4minute mile [39:50] if the person as Renard's syndrome we've [39:52] had events where four other people with [39:55] reard syndrome healed at the end of the [39:57] event like no longer have any symptoms [39:59] at all or we've had five people in one [40:02] event step out of a wheelchair now if [40:04] you ask me if I ever thought that was [40:06] possible I would say no so I do think uh [40:10] when a person sees that example of Truth [40:14] their awareness of possibility begins to [40:16] change and um the evidence then allows [40:20] the person to increase their own belief [40:23] uh in in themselves and [40:25] impossibility you used to add earlier on [40:27] the the word identity and I've been [40:29] pondering over the last couple of weeks [40:31] whether identity is useful cuz this is a [40:35] really trivial example but I've told [40:37] myself for a long time I don't like [40:38] running and this Christmas I decided [40:41] that it's probably important for me to [40:43] take on some of these limiting beliefs I [40:44] have so I just started running and in [40:47] doing so and going through the pain of [40:49] like Oh my legs hurt whatever I had this [40:52] sort of realization that like what other [40:53] areas of my life have I just created a [40:55] story that is closing in on me and [40:57] making my life more narrow and uh in [41:00] terms of how I think or like my health [41:01] or whatever and and so for the last [41:03] couple of weeks I've really been [41:04] thinking about this concept of identity [41:05] like what it is why we create one and [41:08] how harmful or positive it might be to [41:10] all of us yeah well look I mean I don't [41:14] I think we're all a work in progress [41:15] right I think it's an uncovering process [41:21] so I I always tell people you can be [41:23] anybody you want you can be any [41:25] character you want to be in [41:26] three-dimensional it in this in this [41:28] kind of virtual reality experience you [41:30] get to put on any character but when it [41:32] comes time to create when it comes time [41:35] to connect you got to lay down that [41:37] character you got to lay down the [41:39] identity you got to lay down that person [41:41] right and some people are have become [41:45] so uh uh idealized to their identity [41:49] that they can't be anything else and so [41:53] uh I don't think the identity is bad I [41:54] think I think as long as long as we're [41:57] able to to lay it down when we create [41:58] it's important and by the same means if [42:02] there are aspects of your personality or [42:04] your [42:05] identity that is undermining um your [42:08] life in some way uh and this happens to [42:12] so many people we see even with you know [42:14] when they're when they're getting [42:15] healings that they they their blood [42:17] values get better and then they get back [42:19] into their life and they blood values go [42:21] back up and then they get more healings [42:23] and their blood values go down and they [42:24] go back into their life and sooner or [42:26] later this goes on four or five times [42:28] they [42:29] say is it me like do I have something to [42:33] do with this and and the answer is [42:35] always yes if you if you want to take [42:37] the sign you can't take you can't take [42:39] one bite you got to actually eat the [42:40] whole thing [42:41] so so the so then what aspect of your [42:46] identity then is limiting you uh and [42:49] what is that story that you're saying to [42:51] reaffirm it to be the truth and is it [42:54] really the truth and if it's not the [42:56] truth then you got to make a decision [42:58] and you got to make a decision with such [43:00] firm intention to change that belief [43:03] that the amplitude of that choice [43:06] carries a level of energy that causes [43:09] your body to respond to your mind that [43:11] the choice that you're making in that [43:13] moment becomes a moment in time that [43:15] you'll never forget in other words you [43:17] have to say I knew exactly where I was [43:20] what I was doing what time of day it was [43:22] when I made up my mind to change right [43:24] it becomes a long-term memory and the [43:27] stronger emot the stronger the emotion [43:29] you feel when you make that choice the [43:32] more you remember the choice right and [43:33] so you can't say oh well I think I'm [43:36] going to change this kind of part of my [43:38] identity and your your body's going to [43:41] say he's lying like he's not serious [43:44] he's going to still make the same Choice [43:47] when you say this is it I don't care how [43:50] long it takes time I don't care how I [43:52] feel body I don't care what people think [43:54] of me or what's going on in my life [43:56] environment I'm going to change and you [43:58] come out of your resting state and you [44:00] make that choice you're giving your body [44:02] a taste of the future emotionally that's [44:05] what you're doing and so people who make [44:07] up their mind to change they have to [44:09] come out of their resting state and they [44:11] have to say th I'm doing this and and [44:14] that is a a strong signal in the field [44:18] so does that mean that if I do want to [44:19] change and I need that kind of escape [44:20] velocity for my old self the why the [44:24] reason must be abundantly clear [44:27] incredibly strong so if I'm in if I'm [44:29] making a New Year's resolution I'm not [44:30] going to just say listen I I want this [44:32] New Year's resolution because I think [44:34] people will think better of me if I have [44:35] it it's got to be so deep in my core and [44:37] I've got to be so clear and be able to [44:39] articulate the reason why this matters [44:41] to me for it to stand a chance yeah we [44:44] call that assigning meaning like so it's [44:47] so important to assign meaning to the [44:49] task or the act that we're uh engaging [44:52] and one of the best way to do that is to [44:55] hold that Vision or the dream of why [44:57] you're doing it I want to be healthier I [45:00] want to be more fit I want to be more [45:01] wealthy I want to be more free I want to [45:03] be more in love whatever it is the only [45:07] thing that's stopping you from being any [45:08] of those things is just a part of your [45:10] identity that has to change so that you [45:12] get there and it's nothing's mystical [45:14] about this if you said I want to be [45:16] wealthy this is your goal this is your [45:18] vision and here you are in lack the only [45:22] way you're going to get wealthy is this [45:24] person's going to have to change a lot [45:26] to find that wealth right so there's [45:28] nothing there's nothing mystical about [45:30] this we've all done it at some point in [45:32] our life where we just made up our mind [45:35] and and and what did we do when we when [45:37] we did it we got very clear like okay uh [45:42] let me remind myself what that vision is [45:44] I just got to remember why am I doing [45:46] this okay so I'm going to have to make a [45:48] different Choice let me write down those [45:50] choices I have to make I'm going to have [45:52] to start doing different things okay [45:54] what am I going to do let me remind [45:55] myself what I need to do okay why am I [45:57] doing it I'm doing for this experience [45:59] yeah I know it might hurt my legs in the [46:00] beginning or whatever it is I know it [46:02] may be a little uncomfortable I'm going [46:03] for this goal this is my goal and and [46:07] and the more we Fascinate about that [46:09] experience the more we start feeling the [46:11] emotion of that future that's when your [46:13] body what we've discovered is beginning [46:15] to biologically change because it's [46:17] starting to feel the emotion of the [46:19] future ahead of time right so that keeps [46:21] a person on the journey then we do [46:23] something really great we say what what [46:26] thoughts uh um do I want to stay away [46:28] from like I can't say I there's no way [46:30] I'm going to say I can't feel like it I [46:32] mean if you're truly committed to being [46:34] healthy and you're going to exercise you [46:36] can never say I'm too tired you can [46:39] never say I don't feel like it that's [46:41] going to cause you to not make the [46:42] choice right so it's kind of this [46:45] process where we're kind of doing that [46:46] exact thing we're actually looking at [46:49] the old identity and we're we're [46:51] reminding ourselves of who we want to [46:53] become right and and until you become it [46:55] and we discovered it's the overcoming [46:58] process that is the becoming process [47:01] when the person overcomes some belief [47:03] some behavior um some emotion when they [47:08] truly overcome it they naturally become [47:10] somebody else it's it's just a side [47:12] effect their their work in doing that [47:16] makes them love themselves more you also [47:18] have a lot of case studies of I was [47:21] reading a a lot of them from army [47:23] veterans and people that have been [47:24] through pretty horrific experience in [47:27] the Army I was reading a story of Joshua [47:29] who was a army veteran who I believe [47:31] came to one of your events and took part [47:33] in your meditation and described it in [47:35] his own words as his heart cracked wide [47:38] open yeah what happened with Joshua [47:41] because that's a good example of [47:42] personal transformation well [47:45] um we we have a program right now in the [47:49] veterans the Navy Seals special ops um [47:53] simply because there's lots of stories [47:56] like like Joshua where um you know he [47:59] was pretty much ready to give up on his [48:01] life and many of these veterans you know [48:04] they they they cope to the best of their [48:08] ability but they in the back of their [48:10] mind they have an exit plan they they [48:13] have the drugs ready they're you know [48:15] thinking about taking their life many of [48:18] them think this way and they've done uh [48:20] so many different um uh types of things [48:24] to help themselves and even even a lot [48:27] of them have done plant medicine and and [48:30] mushrooms and you know ketamine and all [48:33] kinds of things to help them but on some [48:36] level their their PTSD U wouldn't [48:39] doesn't go away and and Joshua is a [48:41] great example because he was at the very [48:43] bottom of the uh point in his life where [48:46] he was ready to give [48:47] up and you know the thing that I like to [48:50] do with veterans is to reason with them [48:53] if you have a if you have a a Navy SEAL [48:56] right and these are Elite [48:58] individuals if I tell them exactly what [49:01] will happen if they practice opening [49:03] their heart if if I say to them it's [49:05] going to reset the Baseline for trauma [49:07] in the brain they don't say how do I do [49:09] it they say yes sir like I'm going to do [49:12] I'm going to do it until it till it [49:13] happens and that's what happens to all [49:15] of these guys they're they get they're [49:18] they there's so much trauma in their [49:20] brain and body there's so much [49:21] incoherence in their nervous system [49:23] there's so many physical problems that [49:25] they're having [49:26] that they that they they they're just [49:29] really out of balance so if we if we [49:32] work with these people and give them all [49:34] the information and give them numerous [49:36] opportunities to apply it so many of [49:39] them break through and that's the moment [49:41] um their brain and body literally are no [49:44] longer connected to the memory uh or or [49:47] the emotion that keeps them in the past [49:49] and and they get recalibrated and he was [49:51] a drug addict an alcoholic a victim of [49:54] child abuse yeah and the before and [49:57] after of Joshua [49:59] dramatic yeah dramatic um again you know [50:02] we interview a lot of these veterans you [50:04] know we did we interviewed this he [50:06] didn't know anything about meditation [50:08] this guy never meditated in his life you [50:10] know he he didn't know anything about me [50:12] and know he didn't even know where he [50:14] was going this is how blind the study [50:16] was and he got there and he was just [50:18] like there's no way like I'm going to [50:19] hang out with all these people you know [50:21] he was really you know in and you know [50:24] always on guard and they asked him in [50:27] front of the camera like my goodness [50:29] like what happened and he and like he [50:32] got this is a guy that looks like a Navy [50:35] SEAL and he paused for like a [50:37] minute and he was got so emotional he [50:40] said I I got my life back I got my life [50:43] back I got every my marriage is great [50:45] again I'm in love with my kids I can [50:47] feel again I'm happy like I'm not faking [50:50] it I really feel a change you know [50:53] so that's how the vet the vet program [50:56] kind of grew through because the veteran [50:57] program was just a few vets coming that [50:59] were again injured in some way [51:01] physically or emotionally and completely [51:05] different at the end of the event [51:06] they're going to go tell their tribe [51:07] like right away like you got to do this [51:09] this really helped me so we have a [51:11] strong veteran community and you know we [51:14] have our one of our nonprofits the give [51:16] to give Foundation that works with [51:18] veterans and we create all kinds of [51:20] programs for them to heal and and we're [51:22] super proud of the results we're getting [51:24] someone like Joshua has been through so [51:26] much in their life where an objective [51:28] Observer would say it is warranted that [51:30] they might be living in a state of [51:32] victimhood how important is it to [51:36] forgive I think it's really uh one of [51:40] the fundamental things that Keep Us [51:41] Alive I mean forgiveness to me is just [51:46] overcoming the emotion that's it and [51:49] like if you overcome the emotion the [51:51] side effect of that is that your heart [51:54] will open that's exactly what happens [51:56] and when en energy moves into the heart [51:58] we start releasing different chemicals [52:01] than we when we feel angry or we feel [52:03] victimized or we feel sexual it's just a [52:06] different [52:07] chemical Elixir and oxytocin is released [52:11] and oxytocin signals nitric oxide and [52:15] nitric oxide signals another chemical [52:17] that causes the arteries in your heart [52:20] to literally dilate the heart gets [52:21] filled with energy it's engorged with [52:23] blood when that occurs the oxytocin [52:26] level lels that you're feeling the love [52:28] that you're feeling um the studies show [52:30] that when oxytocin levels are just [52:32] elevated a little bit it's really hard [52:34] to hold a grudge you just can't right so [52:37] if you're willing to [52:39] forgive and you overcome the emotion [52:41] you'll take your attention off the [52:43] person or the problem right because the [52:45] stronger the emotion we have the more we [52:47] pay attention to our problems or the [52:48] person right overcome the emotion you no [52:51] longer have your attention on that [52:52] person and in a sense you're taking [52:54] energy and you're calling it back to you [52:56] right so you're building your own field [52:59] and [52:59] so love is the Elixir that allows us to [53:04] forgive in other words you can't [53:06] say I'm going to forgive you it's uh [53:09] January 31st or February 1st remember [53:12] this day we got a thing I forgave you so [53:15] that's not like forgiveness when people [53:18] really have that feeling of pure love [53:19] where they've actually gotten over the [53:22] emotion they've already forgiven they're [53:24] like I'm totally cool I'm great you [53:27] great I'm great like so it's a side [53:30] effect of a change because if the [53:33] stronger the emotion we feel the more we [53:35] pay attention to that person uh where we [53:37] place our attention is where we place [53:38] our energy okay overcome the emotion you [53:41] no longer have your attention on that [53:42] person you're calling energy back to you [53:44] and you're building your own field and [53:46] there's energy now to heal there's [53:48] energy Now to create there's energy now [53:50] for the mystical experience and so you [53:53] can't do that if you're feeling [53:54] frustrated or if you're feeling Ang [53:56] anger if you're feeling resentment [53:57] you'll always hold the grudge you have [53:59] to convert you have to teach a person [54:02] how to get into that elevated State and [54:04] the side effect of that is forgiveness [54:06] it's not something that you have to do [54:08] it's just something that automatically [54:10] happens when we think about forgiving [54:12] people that have wronged us our dad when [54:14] we were younger that person at work you [54:17] the the boss that fired us or even [54:19] something that happened that [54:20] significantly worse it almost feels like [54:22] a justification or an acceptance of what [54:26] happened to us which makes it feel like [54:28] there's an injustice in the world like [54:29] if I forgive that person I'm letting [54:31] them off yeah do you think we should [54:34] always forgive everybody in all [54:35] circumstances yeah I think so I mean [54:37] because I mean you free yourself the [54:40] only way you're going to free yourself [54:41] from that person uh or from that past [54:45] experience is for you to literally [54:48] overcome the emotion [54:51] so um God we've all had people do really [54:54] horrible things and we've probably done [54:55] some horrible things the people as well [54:57] um but I don't think you can free [55:00] yourself or free them unless you decide [55:03] that um you know love is going to be the [55:06] thing that heals it and and God so many [55:08] people do it in our work and and the [55:10] side effect of it is that they they they [55:12] have wonderful effects in their lives [55:14] many times just healing there is a [55:16] chronic stress in society that seems to [55:17] be going in One Direction it seems to be [55:19] going up and up and up and I was [55:20] wondering if that ties into the subject [55:22] of burdens we're carrying from our past [55:25] that are keeping us elevated in ways [55:26] that are suboptimal yeah well I God I [55:29] mean what a crazy time to be alive right [55:31] now I mean there are so many things [55:33] happening in such a short amount of time [55:34] I mean it's almost overwhelming every [55:36] day there's something [55:38] happening and you know so living in [55:40] stress is living in survival the problem [55:43] with the stress hormones is that the [55:45] arousal that's created from the stress [55:48] hormones causes us uh to move into these [55:51] higher brain wave States called beta [55:53] brain wave states were aroused and the [55:55] arousal causes us to pay attention [55:57] primarily to all the things in our outer [56:00] world the arousal causes us to put our [56:02] attention on our body it causes us to [56:04] obsess and think about time and so uh [56:08] people get stuck in these uh High brain [56:11] wave States and I think the big [56:14] challenge is is if you understand that [56:16] stress is when you're knocked out of [56:18] homeostasis when your brain and body are [56:20] knocked out of balance then your [56:23] response or your reaction to people or [56:25] circumstances in your life that you're [56:27] chronically feeling on a regular basis [56:30] is actually weakening the organism [56:32] because when you turn on that emergency [56:34] system the fight ORF flight nervous [56:36] system because of the hormones of stress [56:38] and you move your body out of balance [56:39] and it has no time to recover and turn [56:43] back to balance now you're headed for [56:45] disease because no organism can live in [56:47] emergency mode for that extended period [56:49] of time the arousal creates a rush of [56:53] energy and people become [56:55] addicted to the stress hormones they [56:57] become addicted to those [56:59] emotions and so that now they need the [57:01] people and the conditions and the [57:03] circumstances and their life to reaffirm [57:05] their addiction to the emotion they need [57:07] the bad job they need the bad [57:08] relationship they need the traffic they [57:10] need the news uh just so that they can [57:13] stay uh in that emotional state so then [57:17] 75 to 90% of every person that walks [57:20] into a healthcare facility in the [57:21] Western World walks in because of [57:24] emotional or psychological stress that's [57:25] the number one thing so our emotional [57:29] response uh to the conditions in our [57:31] life then becomes the important element [57:33] so people think oh my god um when I'm [57:36] emotional I I can't control my emotions [57:39] and turns out you can regulate it turns [57:41] out you can uh shorten the response uh [57:45] period from from emotions and it takes [57:48] practice right so uh you could take the [57:51] you could have the most ketogenic vegan [57:54] organic uh peptide you know whatever [57:57] intermittent fasting diet and you could [57:58] do yoga and you can do cardio and you [58:01] can do hit training and um you know [58:04] foundation training and [58:06] whatever uh get massage you know [58:09] acupuncture but if you're an emotional [58:11] wreck and you can't you know if there's [58:14] three types of stress physical chemical [58:16] and emotional then there's three types [58:17] of balance physical chemical and [58:19] emotional if you if you got your body in [58:22] physical balance and chemical balance [58:23] and you're not putting it in emotional [58:24] balance these these will never stop day [58:27] um so then the important part important [58:30] element then is teaching people how to [58:33] shorten the refractory period of their [58:35] emotional responses and catch themselves [58:38] when they're feeling those emotions and [58:39] change it and not rely on anything [58:42] outside of them to do it a video game or [58:44] a drug or whatever people do teach them [58:47] that they have the tools to do it [58:48] themselves and if they understand that [58:49] they're addicted to those emotions I've [58:51] seen this thousands of times there's [58:53] always an aha moment like [58:56] I'm addicted to anger really oh my God [59:00] maybe I am now the moment you recognize [59:03] that oh my God I'm using that person to [59:06] reaffirm my addiction to anger oh my God [59:09] like I don't want to I don't want to [59:10] feel anger okay well an addiction is [59:13] something that you think you can't stop [59:16] an addiction is uh doing something that [59:18] you know isn't good for you and you're [59:19] doing it anyway right so these emotions [59:22] are addictive then I'm going to probably [59:24] go through withdrawals I've probably [59:27] overdosed a few times I've probably had [59:29] a couple bad trips okay so let me get [59:33] really clear like how am I going to [59:34] change this so if to change is to be [59:38] greater than your body your environment [59:39] and time when you live in stress and you [59:42] live in survival all your attention is [59:44] on your body your environment and time [59:45] it means when we're living in stress [59:47] it's really hard to change MH because [59:49] it's not a time to change it's time to [59:51] run fight and hide right so so teaching [59:54] people how to break those emotional [59:57] addictions um is the side effect of that [60:00] is called Joy a person is no longer [60:03] tormenting their body in keeping it out [60:05] of balance and many people who heal in [60:07] this work they don't say oh I'm going to [60:09] I'm going to heal this health condition [60:12] they'll say the first thing I'm going to [60:14] do and this is the majority of them is [60:17] I'm going to work on getting my body [60:18] back into homeostasis like I'm going to [60:21] work on regulating my emotional states [60:23] I'm not going to react in this way I'm [60:25] not going to respond this [60:26] way that's the work right there is [60:29] breaking those emotional addictions so [60:31] that we can move out of survival uh and [60:34] in survival it's not a time to create in [60:36] survival it's not a time to meditate [60:38] it's not a time to close your eyes and [60:39] go within you'd be eaten it's not a time [60:42] to be vulnerable it's not a time to open [60:43] your heart right and yet we got to work [60:46] with our bodies and be able to to [60:48] recondition them to a new mind and and [60:50] so a lot of the work that we do [60:52] especially during this time in history [60:54] where everybody's feeling the the um the [60:57] pressure the environmental pressure of [60:59] stress is to give people the tools to be [61:02] able to self-regulate and when I mean [61:04] self-regulate that means move from one [61:06] emotional state to another emotional [61:09] state and it's not bad that we react we [61:11] all react I react but the question is [61:15] how long like how long are you going to [61:18] react for because um if you keep doing [61:21] it uh for months or years It ultimately [61:24] becomes your personality right yeah and [61:28] it has a big impact on your immune [61:29] system I've noticed that when I'm in a [61:31] state of prolonged reaction negative [61:34] reaction to something it only takes a [61:37] couple more days for me to get a flu or [61:39] a cold or something and I H like because [61:42] I don't get sick often so I think I get [61:45] sick kind of like I am now maybe twice a [61:48] year and so it's very easy it's almost [61:50] like a shock and then it's very easy for [61:52] me to trace my steps and see what [61:53] brought me here so this happened my [61:55] response was [61:57] this 8 days later I felt my immune [62:00] system go cuz I get sick so rarely it's [62:04] so unbelievably clear what happened to [62:05] me there's no like oh I I touched [62:08] something and then the germs got in my [62:10] mouth for me it's so clear in my life so [62:12] yeah that's kind of what I I want to do [62:13] is I want to stop that happening yeah [62:15] well look how old are you I'm 32 32 my [62:18] God you're doing great I mean if you [62:20] figure this out now by the time you're [62:21] 40 you'll you'll have it mastered um so [62:25] we did a study where we had people stop [62:27] feeling survival [62:29] emotions uh for 3 days and have them [62:32] practice feeling elevated emotions [62:34] heart- centered emotions we measured uh [62:36] a chemical called IGA immunoglobuline a [62:39] it's your body's natural flu shot it's [62:41] actually better than a flu shot and uh [62:45] and so we measured people's IGA levels [62:47] at the beginning of this time and then [62:49] we measured them at the end at the end [62:51] of 3 Days by trading those limited [62:54] emotions for more elevated emotions [62:56] their IG a levels went up 50% 50% so so [63:01] when you're feeling an elevated emotion [63:04] the body is so objective that it's [63:06] believing it's living in an nurturing [63:07] and loving environment if the [63:09] environment signals the Gene and it does [63:12] and the end product of an experience in [63:13] the environment is an emotion that [63:15] person is signaling genes ahead of the [63:17] environment that's and now the body is [63:19] going to make globulins which are [63:21] proteins that are going to create more [63:23] internal defense and uh uh uh and less [63:26] and less uh attention on external [63:28] defense so the immune system then which [63:30] is the internal protection system begins [63:32] to move back into order if you're [63:35] looking to take the next step in your [63:36] Tech Career you'll want to hear about [63:38] our sponsor Inuit I've 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body right it's a time where I'm [65:22] going to think about the things I have [65:24] to do in the day and how I'm going to to [65:25] be in my in my day get that all clear [65:28] then I do my meditation and my [65:30] meditation is really uh for me to [65:31] overcome myself uh and change and then [65:35] create and I you know I don't care if [65:37] you do it in the morning or in the [65:38] evening I'm a morning person I've always [65:40] been a morning person I have friends [65:41] that are that are artists and musicians [65:45] even my kids they're just more even [65:47] evening people they just they're [65:49] creative so they like the evening [65:51] doesn't matter to me I just pick a time [65:53] in your day where you can think about [65:56] who you want to be and who you no longer [65:57] want to be and think about what you're [66:00] going to change and and you know always [66:02] make a little room for the unknown which [66:04] is the fun part and and get creative [66:06] yeah and so and our that's one of the [66:09] things I'm proud of in in our community [66:11] I'm really proud of the fact that people [66:13] do the work like everybody does the work [66:15] it's not like I have to make them do it [66:17] and when I ask them like why like why do [66:20] you do it every day aside from the [66:22] majority of saying it makes me feel [66:24] better they typically say I don't want [66:26] the magic to end like there's too many [66:28] good things too many good things going [66:30] on in my life like I want to keep doing [66:32] this it's working for me so it's kind of [66:34] not like I have to it's a want to you [66:36] talked earlier on about brain heart [66:38] coherence it's a term that I've not [66:40] heard before I didn't know that there [66:43] was a connection between my brain and my [66:44] heart oh there's a definite connection [66:46] between your brain and heart yeah so we [66:48] were so fascinated this was uh February [66:51] of 2020 I'll never forget it we we [66:54] started and our when we were doing our [66:57] electroencephalograms you know our brain [66:59] studies um we we put a a cardiac lead [67:03] from the heart uh uh to the machine and [67:06] we started looking at HRV in comparison [67:09] to brain waves and coherence is rhythm [67:12] right so when waves are kind of moving [67:14] in Rhythm like this you can you can see [67:17] that on the brain scan right they're [67:18] these yeah they're very orderly they're [67:20] very rhythmic like that so so if you [67:23] think of waves that are Co [67:26] coherent being very orderly and being [67:28] very rhythmic [67:31] um when they're when they're out of [67:33] order like choppy and they different [67:35] parts of the brain are in different [67:36] rhythms that's when the brain's [67:38] incoherent right and and so when we [67:41] started looking at um training people [67:44] how to broaden their awareness to sense [67:46] space when you're sensing space the act [67:49] of sensing and feeling causes you to [67:51] stop analyzing and thinking and if [67:53] you're not analyzing and thinking you [67:55] start suppressing neocortical activity [67:57] your brain waves start to slow down in [67:59] beta you know you're aware that you're a [68:02] body local in space and time that's [68:04] low-level beta like we're talking right [68:06] now we're in low-level beta if I said [68:09] Stephen I'm going to give you a quiz um [68:11] and you're going to have to take the [68:12] quiz in front of your audience and you [68:15] would kind of perk up a little bit your [68:16] brain would get a little bit more [68:17] aroused and the light bulb would get a [68:18] little brighter and You' move into [68:19] mid-range Vader that's like when you're [68:21] going to give a speech or you're at a [68:23] dinner and you don't know people you're [68:25] kind of you kind of be a little bit more [68:26] aware just for people that can't see [68:28] this because they might be listening on [68:29] audio so beta is uh conscious awareness [68:32] now in beta the the brain is trying to [68:35] create meaning between what's going on [68:37] in the outer world and what's going on [68:38] in the inner world and it's processing [68:39] all the sensory information so a lot of [68:41] data so beta is like conscious and awake [68:44] and so there's low-level beta there's [68:45] mid-range beta it's not on this chart [68:47] but high level beta is when you're [68:48] fearful when you're anxious when you're [68:50] angry when you're in pain when you're [68:52] frustrated when you're jealous whatever [68:54] uh people get switched on in these high [68:56] levels of beta and that's when we get [68:58] overfocused you ever been under stressed [69:00] and you start over focusing that's [69:01] because you're you're you're narrowing [69:03] your focus and you're over focusing and [69:05] that's kind of a brain State and so when [69:08] you broaden your awareness and instead [69:11] of narrow your focus on something [69:13] physical or material that's what the [69:14] stress hormones do but if you broaden [69:16] your awareness and you sense space and [69:18] you this act of sensing causes you to no [69:22] longer analyze and think and your brain [69:24] waves start to move into Alpha now in [69:27] Alpha which is this brain wave is a [69:29] slower brain wave state that's the [69:31] creative state of the brain the brain [69:32] sees more in pictures more in images [69:35] it's more imaginary right in beta [69:38] there's a voice talking to you in the [69:39] back of your head all the time saying [69:41] this is right and this is wrong you got [69:42] this to do you got that to do that's the [69:44] critic kind of in our brain when you [69:47] when you get Beyond beta brain waves and [69:49] you move into Alpha you start opening [69:50] the door between the conscious mind and [69:52] the subconscious mind now we're not just [69:54] looking for any type of alpha but we're [69:56] looking for coherent Alpha so we want [69:58] all those compartments that we're firing [70:01] in different rhythms and different [70:03] frequencies all of a sudden start doing [70:05] this so now the whole entire brain [70:08] starts moving into what's called Global [70:10] coherence now when the brain starts [70:12] synchronizing like that what sinks in [70:14] the brain starts to link in the brain [70:16] and the whole brain starts to fire as [70:19] one neurological Network and that's what [70:20] our data shows now that's not the end [70:23] that's just when you're moving into an [70:25] imaginary State and people do this but [70:27] but a lot of people move into Alpha but [70:29] it's not coherent so we're looking for a [70:30] coherent Alpha [70:32] now many of the people that are [70:35] meditating really well they can relax [70:37] their body so well and they can feel so [70:41] safe that their body moves into a light [70:43] rest or a light sleep while they're [70:45] still awake so it's relaxed and awake in [70:50] that realm you're in a hypnotic State [70:53] you're in feta brain waves and in Theta [70:56] now lights are shut out in the thinking [70:58] Neo cortest that plugs us into [71:00] three-dimensional reality the identity [71:02] is gone the character is gone there's no [71:04] activity there now the door between the [71:07] conscious mind and the subconscious mind [71:09] is wide open to information and now [71:11] we're suggestible to information and now [71:14] we're in the operating system we can get [71:15] in the subconscious mind and rewrite a [71:18] program we could rehearse a new script [71:20] we can tell a new story instead of the [71:22] story of the past we can tell the story [71:23] of our future and we can Pro program our [71:26] subconscious mind and our autonomic [71:28] nervous system to begin to change our [71:30] biology now go too far past Theta and [71:33] you fall into Delta and now lights are [71:35] out you're in a catatonic State and [71:37] you're unconscious right and so we kind [71:39] of do this when we go to bed at night we [71:41] go from beta to Alpha Theta to Delta and [71:44] if you're under stress and you're in [71:46] high beta you can't sleep and you can't [71:48] sleep because you're thinking right and [71:50] you can't drop through brain waves when [71:53] you wake up in the morning you go from [71:54] Delta to the Theta to Alpha to Beta [71:57] right so there's two times that the door [71:59] between the conscious mind and the [72:00] subconscious mind opens up okay what [72:02] does this have to do with brain and [72:03] heart coherence well in Theta when a [72:07] person is in that state where their [72:08] attention is on their [72:10] heart and energy is in their heart it's [72:14] natural for the heart to tell the brain [72:17] to get creative it's time to imagine [72:20] it's time to fall in love with a future [72:23] now the heart is the creative center [72:25] right right it's the it's the part of [72:26] the our biology that that allows the [72:29] brain to begin the frontal lobe to begin [72:31] to create so you get the heart and the [72:34] Brain kind of working together the more [72:37] relaxed you get in your heart the more [72:39] awake you get in the brain Something [72:40] Beautiful happens in the brain if the [72:42] person can sustain this and they're in [72:45] that Theta State Theta becomes the [72:48] carrier wave and right within the brain [72:51] you start to see Alpha Waves building on [72:55] theta waves and then alpha waves in [72:57] harmonics into beta waves and harmonics [73:00] into high beta and then High beta [73:03] ultimately into gamma and now the person [73:06] is [73:07] relaxed and very awake because gamma is [73:10] superconsciousness it is super awareness [73:14] so the the formula of being relaxed and [73:16] awake and synchronizing your heart to [73:18] your brain causes the brain to move into [73:21] a state of what's called resonance and [73:23] resonance is when you have w waves on [73:25] top of waves harmonics and the Brain [73:28] starts functioning in a more resonance [73:29] State sometimes even people have Delta [73:32] as the base carrying Theta and Theta [73:34] carrying Alpha and Alpha carrying beta [73:36] to high beta to gamma and they're all [73:38] waves within waves and as those waves [73:40] come together if they're if they're [73:42] coherent they interfere and create a [73:44] bigger wave and then those waves come [73:46] together and they interfere and they [73:47] create bigger waves and that's exactly [73:48] how the energy in the brain goes up so [73:52] we have brain scans of people who whose [73:55] gamma brain waves are 200 300 400 [74:00] standard deviations outside of normal [74:02] I'm going give you an idea three [74:04] standard deviations outside of normal is [74:06] 2% of the population so they're they're [74:09] processing an enormous amount of energy [74:11] in their brain and it feels really good [74:15] really good so we practice a lot [74:17] synchronizing the heart to the brain if [74:19] you do like MDMA or something does that [74:22] put you into some of these brain waves [74:23] I'm wondering if any psychedelics are [74:25] inducing of these states we're going to [74:27] do a comparative study actually um this [74:29] year with psychedelics and meditation I [74:31] can I can answer that question more [74:34] definitively what we do know from fmri [74:36] studies with [74:38] psilocybin is that the default mode [74:40] Network in the brain the one I was [74:41] talking about earlier that's always the [74:43] brain's [74:44] predictor that that shuts off in a in a [74:46] with with a psilocybin and that's [74:49] exactly what we see in our our our [74:52] Advanced meditators and our fmis [74:55] that those people that are having a [74:57] mystical experience right in the [74:59] MRI looks like they're taking psilocybin [75:02] the same exact the same exact brain [75:04] circuits are turned off on this um Theta [75:08] wave you talking about how that's really [75:10] where a lot of the reprogramming can [75:12] happen so do I need to be in that state [75:16] and then be exposed to some kind of [75:19] stimulus sound good question good [75:22] question um well I'll answer in three [75:25] ways first way is when you're conscious [75:29] in your subconscious mind and you're [75:32] trained to imagine whatever it is that [75:34] you want you're going to begin to Signal [75:37] your autonomic nervous system to start [75:40] manufacturing chemicals equal to your [75:42] intention in other words the intention [75:45] of whatever you're thinking about acts [75:47] as information that begins to change [75:49] your biology so Theta is a great way to [75:54] open up the door [75:56] we also use Theta um when we want to [75:59] program people because it's a hypnotic [76:02] state to a mystical experience and if [76:05] they're in that state remember when [76:07] you're suggestible you accept believe [76:10] and surrender to information as if it's [76:12] the truth without analyzing it and [76:14] that's what programs people's biology [76:16] right so you can program somebody into [76:19] believing they need a drug and you can [76:21] program somebody to believing in just [76:23] about anything but you could also [76:24] program them for a mystical experience [76:26] and that's what we do now so we can do [76:29] that by giving them information when [76:32] they're in that hypnotic state they're [76:33] very suggestible but we're only going to [76:35] do it in a way that's going to be [76:37] beneficial to them and then the Third [76:40] Way is something that we really [76:42] discovered that we weren't [76:43] expecting let's see how I can say this [76:45] and make it [76:48] simple um there's particle and wave [76:51] there's matter and energy and so if your [76:55] all of your attention is on this [76:57] three-dimensional World um you're you're [76:59] unaware of energy so have a person close [77:02] their eyes and take their attention off [77:04] of everything physical everything [77:07] material everything known and go from a [77:10] narrow Focus to a broadened focus and as [77:12] they sense the space they're actually [77:14] putting their attention on that [77:16] invisible field of energy that exists [77:18] beyond our senses the quantum field [77:20] right and that field is carrying an [77:24] enormous amount of information so when a [77:26] person moves into Theta and I ask them [77:29] to open their awareness if they're in a [77:32] certain range of theta we can just about [77:34] predict 100% of the time that that [77:37] person is going to connect to [77:40] information now not information coming [77:42] from their senses like a hypnotist could [77:45] put you in a trans and Theta and give [77:47] you suggestions and you could program [77:49] you but you're still in the same state [77:52] that hypnotic state but your eyes are [77:54] closed there's music playing in the [77:55] background you're not eating you're not [77:57] tasting you're not smelling you're not [77:58] feeling with your body but you're still [78:00] suggestible to information there's only [78:03] one other place you can find information [78:05] and that's [78:06] frequency and frequency carries [78:08] information so when a person starts to [78:11] connect to energy to frequency and the [78:14] thinking neocortex is dialed down the [78:17] moment they connect to that energy and [78:19] frequency the brain goes into these very [78:22] very high states of gamma brain wave [78:25] patterns they're connecting to a greater [78:27] level of energy a greater level of order [78:29] and they arousal that's felt when they [78:32] have this [78:33] connection which is normally typically [78:35] fear or anger or pain the arousal is [78:39] ecstasy the arousal is bliss that's the [78:42] they say I don't have the words to [78:44] describe the feeling that I just had [78:46] right so they're dipping Closer To [78:48] Source they're dipping closer to a [78:51] greater energy and frequency and it's [78:53] being reflected in their biology when we [78:55] see people move into these elegant [78:57] states of high gamma it's primarily in [79:00] their autonomic nervous system it's very [79:03] fast and it's very coherent now if [79:05] stress is autonomic [79:08] disregulation and they're functioning in [79:10] a very very high energetic state in [79:13] their autonomic nervous system coherent [79:15] gamma brain waves then there's an [79:17] enormous amount of autonomic regulation [79:20] and the autonomic nervous system [79:21] controls and coordinates all other [79:23] systems now watch watch out because now [79:25] the tuning fork is sending information [79:29] to every cell and tissue and organ in [79:31] the body and when people move into these [79:34] states many times when they come back [79:38] they get a biological upgrade somehow [79:40] Energy starts to inform matter and the [79:43] whole body is lifted by light by lifted [79:45] by frequency when we when we draw the [79:48] blood from people who who have these [79:51] kind of moments we look for information [79:53] in the blood [79:55] there's information in the blood that [79:57] we've discovered that stops the covid [80:00] virus from entering the cell we've [80:02] isolated the protein that inhibits the [80:05] virus from entering the cell in other [80:07] words we've done the studies called [80:09] adoptive transfers we've taken Advanced [80:11] meditators blood and we've put it in U a [80:14] culture with A2 receptors cells that [80:17] have A2 receptors and then expose the A2 [80:20] receptor to the to a pseudovirus like a [80:23] CO virus [80:25] and in advanced meditators we noticed [80:27] that the virus couldn't enter the cell [80:29] it was stuck to the outside of the cell [80:31] and we isolated a protein in the [80:33] advanced meditator blood that inhibits [80:35] the virus from entering the [80:37] cell those people that have those [80:39] transcendental moments as I said 84% of [80:43] them 84% of them have information in [80:46] their blood that causes the [80:49] mitochondrial function and glycolytic [80:51] function in cancer cells to shut off [80:54] there's information in the blood for [80:55] neurogenesis uh for um the microbiome [81:00] completely changed at the end of 7 Days [81:02] completely different microbiome uh [81:05] without changing their diet at all [81:07] they're still eating the same food but [81:09] they're not the same person right [81:11] there's some kind of change that creates [81:13] a lot of probiotic microbes I remember [81:17] reading a study of um whm Hof the ican [81:20] where they injected him with a virus and [81:23] I think they injected other people with [81:24] the virus and through his breath work [81:26] and meditations and whatever else he did [81:29] the virus didn't infect him but it [81:31] infected the other people and then I [81:33] think in the study they he trained other [81:35] people to be able to reject the virus as [81:38] well and all of this kind of sounds a [81:40] little bit woooo to the average person [81:42] because to think that you can do [81:43] something to prevent a virus infecting [81:47] you I mean it blows the doors open to [81:50] like personal responsibility and yes of [81:53] course you know which is yeah troubling [81:55] for people I think yeah well we [81:56] published the paper um it got published [81:58] in a scientific journal um people can [82:00] see it online um well if you keep [82:03] practicing being greater than your [82:05] environment you'll be greater than your [82:07] environment that's that's just how it is [82:09] in other words if your response to your [82:11] environment doesn't weaken you but [82:12] strengthens you then the innate [82:14] intelligence of your body will have an [82:16] intelligence that will cause you to be [82:18] greater than your environment right down [82:19] to the microb and that is where you keep [82:22] referencing the term advanced meditator [82:25] cuz you don't say normal meditators well [82:27] what I will say is I'll say well it's [82:29] kind of funny when I use that term I can [82:31] only use that term because many people [82:34] that come to our weekl long Retreats [82:36] Stephen they're they're novices they've [82:38] never really meditated before their [82:40] spouse or their boyfriend or girlfriend [82:42] brought them or their co-work or their [82:43] friend or you know they're just kind of [82:45] like whatever you know I don't really [82:47] know what I'm getting myself [82:49] into the novice meditator who just kind [82:52] of practices a little bit that goes [82:54] through the immersive experience at the [82:56] end of s days their brains look like [82:58] Advanced meditators at the end of seven [83:01] days their biology their blood values [83:04] look like they've been meditating for [83:06] years in other words at the end of seven [83:10] days those Advanced medit those [83:12] meditators that were novice meditators [83:13] that look like Advanced meditators are [83:15] upregulating thousands of genes in their [83:19] biology to suggest that they're living [83:21] in a whole new life a whole new [83:22] environment and they're in a ballroom [83:24] and there's nothing very stimulating [83:26] about a ballroom so whatever they're [83:29] doing inside of them inside of [83:31] themselves somehow is causing dramatic [83:33] changes now we looked at we looked at a [83:36] group of people we looked at their [83:38] genotype and genes make proteins and [83:40] your gene expression is different than [83:42] mine different than every single person [83:43] so everybody has their own unique [83:45] genotype which means they all make their [83:47] own individual proteins at the end of [83:49] seven days when we looked at those [83:51] meditators at the end of seven days [83:54] almost 80% of the [83:56] population was making the same genes and [83:59] the same proteins they were signaling [84:01] the same genes and making the same [84:03] proteins what does that mean that means [84:04] when people behave in the same way [84:07] there's an emergent Consciousness that [84:10] comes forth that's reflected in people's [84:13] biology the flock the herd the tribe [84:18] everybody's evolving together [84:21] biologically at these Retreats these [84:23] 7-Day retreats one of the things I was [84:25] pretty shocked by was the amount of time [84:27] people spend [84:29] meditating yeah how long do people spend [84:31] meditating and why is that [84:34] important our events are a spiritual [84:37] Rave I me that's the best way I can [84:39] describe it I mean we start at 6:00 in [84:41] the morning and we finish at 700 or 8 at [84:43] night and the days go by extremely fast [84:46] there's standing and walking meditations [84:48] we do sometimes four or five of them [84:50] sometimes six at a weekl long event why [84:53] because you got to embody you got to get [84:54] really good at doing it with your eyes [84:56] open um we do laying down meditations [84:58] after we get people to a certain point [85:00] where I know they're not going to fall [85:01] asleep when they lay down and so and [85:05] then we do some big uh meditations that [85:07] are that are a little bit more longer [85:09] but people are up and down the whole [85:10] entire time none of the [85:13] meditations will ever be done without [85:16] knowledge beforehand because knowledge [85:19] is the precursor uh to the [85:21] experience so so it's it's an immersive [85:24] experience um yeah turns out to be about [85:27] 35 hours of meditation when it's all [85:30] said and done but you ask anybody who [85:32] does a weeklong event they'll say I'm so [85:35] I have I can't wait to get back into my [85:37] life and start my practice because I [85:39] what I was doing when I got here was [85:41] nothing like I'm doing now right so now [85:43] they're more equipped and really they're [85:45] they're kind of in a different body [85:47] they're walking back into a new life and [85:49] you know they're they're not on the same [85:51] line of time any longer that's the [85:52] experience that I can [85:55] profess to be true in my own [85:56] relationship and life because my partner [85:58] came back from the medit the meditations [86:00] she came back from the week in Miami [86:01] where she was doing the walking [86:02] meditations down the beach and so on and [86:06] it didn't stop there in fact that was [86:07] really the start of her journey because [86:09] every morning now she has this new [86:10] routine where she meditates in the [86:11] morning and no one's telling her to do [86:14] that but clearly the benefit has been so [86:16] great for her that that she's continued [86:18] the the the practice and she does it [86:19] every day it's I'm like I'm so amazed by [86:22] it because it takes a [86:24] there must like it takes a certain I was [86:27] going to say the word discipline but [86:28] it's not discipline because if you're so [86:30] clear on the the benefit of an action [86:31] you don't necessarily need like [86:33] discipline it's just clearly done so [86:35] much for her that she's continued to do [86:36] it thereafter and it's funny because [86:38] obviously she she came back from it I [86:39] was supposed to attend I had a Visa [86:40] issue she came back from it and told me [86:44] about the process and her recounting it [86:46] like objectively you go God that must [86:48] have been hard and uncomfortable or that [86:50] must have been whatever but her [86:51] experience was very much the opposite it [86:53] was joyous it was filling she came back [86:57] so unbelievably obsessed with this new [87:00] set of sort of systems and information [87:01] that could better her life and it's [87:03] really it's really profound like you can [87:05] hear it on a podcast but then when you [87:07] kind of witness it in someone someone [87:09] you know well in love it's incredibly [87:11] persuasive yeah well that I mean that's [87:14] what I want I want people to walk out [87:16] into their life and not say you need to [87:19] shorten the refractory period of your [87:20] emotional responses you need to forgive [87:23] you need to get your brain or heart [87:24] coherent I don't I don't want anybody in [87:27] my work to do that I want them to walk [87:28] out into the world and be the example so [87:30] so much so that people go what what's [87:32] what's what's up with you you're [87:34] different like I you know you're you [87:36] seem different you know what is it you [87:38] know and that's when I think the real [87:40] conversation starts [87:42] so that's a that's that it's [87:44] instrumental when it becomes [87:45] instrumental and you apply it to your [87:47] life and it's working for you is it's [87:49] not a have to as I said it's something [87:50] that you really enjoy doing and uh wow [87:53] what what a crazy Sovereign idea that [87:58] you could actually make yourself happy [88:00] what a crazy idea when you when you hit [88:03] those gamma moments where you feel a [88:05] level of love you have never felt in [88:07] your entire life by connecting the [88:09] source which is pure love and you stop [88:11] looking for it outside of you you start [88:13] realizing it's within you that's a big [88:16] moment right because then you won't you [88:17] won't need anybody or anything that's [88:19] that's Freedom that's unconditional love [88:21] right you'll get out of want use that [88:24] that time a few times yeah yeah I mean [88:26] like like want like we we've been [88:29] trained to create based on lack that's [88:32] what we do in threedimensional reality [88:34] in threedimensional reality you see [88:35] someone that that has a sports car and [88:37] you don't have one and you like that [88:38] sports car all of a sudden you want that [88:40] sports car your brain starts creating [88:43] based on lack of of not having it you [88:45] see a someone in a scarf and you like [88:47] that scarf and next thing you know [88:49] you're wearing that scarf your brain [88:51] imagines you having it right but the way [88:53] we get it in threedimensional reality is [88:55] we have to do something this is the [88:57] plane of demonstration so then when we [89:00] finally get the scarf and we finally get [89:01] the car the experience of getting the [89:03] car produces the emotion that takes away [89:06] the lack or separation of not having it [89:09] so some people spend their whole life in [89:10] lack waiting for the thing to come [89:13] around to take away the the feeling of [89:16] lack or separation right my message is [89:19] not that my message is actually to [89:21] create in a different way in such a way [89:24] that you feel like it has already [89:25] happened now the power behind all of [89:29] that is that the person now who's who's [89:32] who's in that state where they're [89:33] feeling like the event has already [89:35] happened they no longer want it because [89:38] they're feeling the emotion what how [89:39] could they they wouldn't be looking for [89:41] it you only look for it when you [89:42] experience lack if you feel like it's [89:44] already happened you're no longer [89:45] separate from it and we cannot attract [89:48] anything in our life we feel separate [89:50] from and so feeling that emotion somehow [89:53] starts to draw [89:54] things to us and now we're not having to [89:56] do anything and things are starting to [89:58] come to us that's the synchronicities [90:01] that's the coincidences that's the [90:02] opportunities we're not doing anything [90:04] they're coming to us and that's so so [90:07] you can't when you create from that [90:10] Quantum field instead of from [90:12] matter you can't create from lack [90:15] because the thought of your wealth in [90:18] the quantum produces the feeling of [90:20] abundance the thought of your wealth and [90:22] three-dimensional reality for many [90:23] people produ is the lack of not having [90:25] it so the in the quantum there's a whole [90:27] different set of rules and and it's not [90:29] something that you know you learn right [90:31] away it's you learn from trial and error [90:33] so so then when we create truly create [90:37] in the act of creation and we are [90:39] creating from the field instead of from [90:41] matter to shorten the distance between [90:43] the thought of what we want and [90:45] experience of having it the only way [90:47] that we can do that is we can't create [90:48] from lack so in the creative process we [90:52] create from wholeness my conern when I [90:54] hear that is well Jo if I no longer want [90:56] if I no longer live in a state of want [90:58] am I going to have the motivation to get [91:00] up and go because I look at my life and [91:02] go well it was your creating from a [91:04] place of lack that motivated you to [91:06] start a podcast and to start run [91:07] businesses and do all of these things [91:08] and get a car and whatever else no I'm [91:10] not disputing that I think I think you [91:13] do that for a while you do that for a [91:15] while and I I always tell people I don't [91:16] care what you want to create I just want [91:19] you to get really good at creating I [91:20] don't care if it's I don't care what it [91:22] is wealth I don't care what it is car [91:24] you know whatever it is vacations houses [91:26] I don't care just get good at creating [91:30] but sooner or later that the novelty [91:31] will wear off on all of that and you you [91:33] you'll want to know that on some level [91:35] there's more [91:37] so so you we always desire things we [91:40] always want things but when we're in the [91:42] creative process we cannot create from [91:45] the lack of not having it we have to [91:47] create from the feeling of having it [91:49] right and so in the quantum you got to [91:53] feel it to experience [91:55] it this one change has transformed how [91:58] my team and I move train and think about [92:00] our bodies when doctor Daniel Lieberman [92:03] came on the DI of CEO he explained how [92:05] modern shoes with their cushioning and [92:07] support are making our feet weaker and [92:09] that's capable of doing what nature [92:10] intended them to do we've lost the [92:12] natural strength and mobility in our [92:14] feet and this is leading to issues like [92:16] back pain and knee pain I'd already [92:19] purchased a pair of Viva barefoot shoes [92:21] so I showed them to Daniel liberman and [92:23] he told me that they were exactly the [92:25] type of shoe that would help me restore [92:27] natural foot movement and rebuild my [92:28] strength but I think it was plti fitis [92:30] that I had where suddenly my feet [92:31] started hurting all the time and after [92:32] that I decided to start strengthening my [92:34] own foot by using the Viva Barefoot and [92:36] research from Liverpool university has [92:38] backed this up they've shown that [92:39] wearing Vivo barefoot shoes for 6 months [92:42] can increase foot strength by up to [92:44] 60% visit Vivo [92:52] barfoot.co.nz / [92:55] doac use code do ac20 a strong body [93:00] starts with strong feet quick one I want [93:02] to talk to you about our sponsor whoop a [93:04] business I'm also an investor in and if [93:07] you follow me on Instagram you probably [93:08] noticed that recently I've picked up [93:10] running which I'm very much enjoying and [93:12] it started out as a challenge but it's [93:13] now evolved into something I do almost [93:16] daily it is one of those things that's [93:17] pushing me 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you wouldn't [94:09] go oh God because people are going to [94:11] hear you say that and they're going to [94:12] say I wonder what he means by the [94:13] quantum okay the [94:15] probability that we're perceiving the [94:17] truth of [94:19] reality is [94:21] zero that that there's [94:24] more [94:26] information in the inmaterial than [94:28] there'll ever be in the [94:30] material and that information that [94:33] exists in the inmaterial that the the [94:35] senses cannot perceive the senses can [94:37] only perceive three-dimensional reality [94:39] objects and things and places and people [94:41] and [94:42] bodies there's an invisible field of [94:44] energy the the atom is both particle [94:47] matter and wave or energy right but all [94:50] we see is the material element and the [94:53] atom is [94:55] 99.999999% information and energy and [94:59] 0000000000 [95:01] 1% matter so the brain has been shaped [95:05] and molded from Generations Untold in [95:08] living in Survival by narrowing our [95:11] focus on the material world the stress [95:13] hormones heighten our senses and when we [95:16] our senses are heightened we become [95:17] materialist so live in survival for [95:20] thousands and thousands of years energy [95:22] is not important when you're being [95:23] chased by [95:24] T-Rex uh energy is not important when [95:27] you're looking for food right you got to [95:29] narrow your focus and and so the brain [95:32] cannot perceive energy or frequency so [95:35] what we're seeing is really symbols or [95:39] just out picturing of the most stable [95:41] form of energy called matter and our [95:43] senses collapse it into what appears to [95:46] be [95:48] material but the quantum field is that [95:51] other field of energy and information [95:53] that exists beyond our senses Beyond [95:55] this material world whose signature is [95:59] Oneness his signature is wholeness who [96:01] signature is connection whose signature [96:04] is love pure love and so if you spend [96:07] your whole life with all of your [96:10] attention on your body your environment [96:12] and time all of your attention is in [96:14] this three-dimensional reality then you [96:16] got to play by the rules and the rules [96:18] are Newtonian physics you got to predict [96:20] everything it's going to take time and [96:22] energy for you to get everything you [96:23] want in your life okay you can get [96:25] really good at that you can get really [96:27] good you can get skilled you can get [96:28] trained you can get coached you can [96:30] learn you can go to school you can learn [96:32] from your mistakes you can gather a lot [96:33] of things you get really good at [96:36] that but is there another way to create [96:39] okay well Einstein said the field the [96:43] wave the energy is the sole governing [96:46] agency of the particle energy controls [96:49] matter he didn't say the particle [96:51] controls the particle he said the field [96:53] control controls the particle if you [96:55] change the information in the field can [96:58] you change the projection the particle [97:01] in three dimensional reality this is a [97:02] holographic Universe okay so if the if [97:06] the quantum field is an invisible field [97:08] of energy that exists beyond our senses [97:10] beyond our body our environment and time [97:13] then the only way we are going to [97:14] connect to it is take all of our [97:15] attention off our body all of our [97:17] attention off the environment what's the [97:19] environment made of people objects [97:21] things places and and take all of your [97:24] attention off of linear time the [97:26] predictable future and the familiar past [97:27] and find The Sweet Spot of the generous [97:30] present moment that's the unknown that's [97:31] the door that's the moment you become [97:33] nobody no one no thing nowhere no time [97:36] that is the moment you are pure [97:38] Consciousness and it's no different than [97:40] me saying to [97:42] you stay alive I'm going to take away [97:44] your eyesight I'm going to take away [97:45] your hearing I'm going to take away your [97:46] smell I'm going to take away your taste [97:48] I'm going to take away you feeling with [97:49] your body and if I take away all of your [97:52] senses who are you your Consciousness [97:55] right your Consciousness consciousness [97:56] of what nothing nothing but what you and [98:00] the act of becoming conscious of nothing [98:03] and becoming nobody no one no thing [98:06] nowhere and no time is the eye of the [98:08] needle and that is the moment you're [98:10] walking through the door to the quantum [98:12] field and when you walk through that [98:14] door the game changes it's all energy [98:17] it's all frequency it's all vibration [98:19] it's all connected it's all thought it's [98:21] all Consciousness it's all information [98:24] right and so you got to train your brain [98:25] like when you pass through you're not [98:28] you any longer you're not your body any [98:30] longer you're your body here your pure [98:32] Consciousness and that void or that [98:34] vacuum or that nothing whatever you want [98:36] to call that is rich in frequency and [98:39] energy so have people linger there [98:41] without a name without a skin color [98:44] without a gender without a diet without [98:46] a face without a past without a social [98:48] security number without a profession [98:49] without being a mother father a kid [98:51] linger there as pure Consciousness lay [98:53] the the character down and get [98:54] comfortable in nothing in the [98:57] unknown okay now that you're there if [99:00] it's all frequency and it's all energy [99:01] then the next thing we have to do then [99:03] is get our brain coherent because [99:06] thought is the electrical charge it's [99:08] the impulse in the quantum field and the [99:11] feeling the elevated emotion is the [99:13] magnetic charge if you take a thought [99:16] and a feeling an image and an emotion a [99:18] vision of the future with a coherent [99:20] brain and a coherent heart you got a [99:22] whole new Wi-Fi signal now you're [99:24] broadcasting new information into the [99:25] field and you're connected to this field [99:27] keep changing the information in the [99:30] field you're going to change the destiny [99:32] of your experience in matter and so we [99:34] teach people how to get to that place [99:37] get their brains and hearts coherent and [99:40] learn how to create by changing the [99:42] information in the field to ultimately [99:45] create the experience they want in three [99:47] dimensional reality and when there's a [99:48] vibrational match between their energy [99:51] and some potential in the quantum field [99:53] and they're creating from the source of [99:55] everything physical why would they go [99:58] anywhere to get it if you're the source [100:00] you would draw to you so then creating [100:04] from the field instead of from [100:06] matter can literally shorten the [100:08] distance between the thought of what you [100:11] want and the experience of having it [100:13] instead of going and having to do [100:15] something to get it it starts coming to [100:18] you and that's another way to create and [100:21] again it all starts with getting out of [100:22] the future in the past and into the the [100:25] overcoming process the first couple days [100:27] is Val more valuable than all the gold [100:29] in the world for people though they'll [100:31] say oh my God I had such a terrible [100:34] story I had such a belief oh my God I [100:37] just I was so addicted to those emotions [100:38] they'll tell you and they just have you [100:40] just have to sit with yourself long [100:43] enough to no longer want to feel that [100:45] way and we just give people the tools to [100:48] get them from the old self to the new [100:50] self to cross that River it's quite [100:53] compelling idea that I might be addicted [100:54] to negative emotions or emotions that [100:57] aren't productive to me in any way even [100:58] that as an idea well take the idea like [101:01] this if you were angry right now or you [101:03] were feeling sad and I came up to you [101:07] and I said Hey Stephen listen I know [101:09] you're really miffed right now I know [101:11] you're feeling really down whatever um [101:13] but just [101:14] stop just stop getting just stop being [101:16] there just stop if you can't stop that [101:19] then on some level you must be addicted [101:21] to it right if you if you truly were not [101:24] addicted to it you would be able to just [101:27] turn it off right so so when people [101:30] start to see that they're like oh my god [101:32] um yeah I could be addicted to that it's [101:34] a good moment for people what's it doing [101:35] for me well the long-term effects of [101:39] doing that I mean we can turn on the [101:41] stress response just by thought alone [101:43] you could think about your problems and [101:45] you could produce the same chemistry as [101:47] if it was [101:48] real the long-term effects of the [101:50] hormones of stress down regul genes and [101:53] create disease and if you can turn on [101:55] that stress response just by thought [101:57] alone that means your thoughts can make [101:59] you sick if I know it's bad for me like [102:02] no one wants to feel sad so why am I [102:04] choosing to feel sad there's nothing [102:06] wrong with feeling sad it's just how [102:07] long you want to stay there or angry or [102:09] fearful I don't want to feel that yeah [102:12] so again here we go trial and error you [102:14] got to catch yourself and you got to go [102:17] because because when you're feeling sad [102:19] as an example or you're feeling angry or [102:22] whatever [102:23] for the most part uh you want to stay [102:27] there many people like it's just [102:29] comfortable it's it's some people find a [102:31] lot of comfort in being unhappy they're [102:34] really happy being unhappy so so if you [102:38] want to evolve your experience in life [102:41] you would say I can change this I [102:43] literally can change it let me sit down [102:45] and change my emotional state if this [102:48] emotion is causing me me to view my [102:50] reality through the lens of the past if [102:53] this reality is downregulating my genes [102:55] and creating disease if this reality [102:58] feeling this emotion is causing me to [103:00] behave as if I'm in a past reality if a [103:03] feeling this emotion causes me to [103:05] believe in my past more than my future H [103:08] maybe it's not s such a good idea that I [103:10] stay there so so Justified or [103:13] not valid or not the only person that [103:17] that emotion is affecting is you sooner [103:20] or later I think when people start [103:21] realizing I can change my emotional [103:23] state and they really sit down even [103:24] though they don't want to do it they do [103:26] it that's when they start feeling a lot [103:28] of worth Joe what is the most important [103:30] question based on all of your work and [103:32] all that you do and all that you're [103:34] thinking about at this exact moment and [103:35] the subject of change and transformation [103:38] that I should have asked you [103:41] oo is it possible that the human nervous [103:46] system the autonomic nervous system [103:49] manufactures a pharmacy of chemicals [103:51] that works better than any drug [103:53] is it possible that the human nervous [103:56] system [103:56] manufactures a pharmacy of chemicals [103:59] that works better than any drug Joe the [104:00] answer is absolutely yes that's what our [104:02] data shows and it's not pseudo science [104:04] our data shows that the autonomic [104:07] nervous system can manufacture a [104:09] pharmacy of chemicals that works better [104:11] than any drug a drug trial is about uh [104:15] uh 25% effective one out of four people [104:18] have a response and it's normally over a [104:21] length of time 60 to 90 days [104:23] what our data shows is [104:25] that [104:27] 75 as I said 84 90 95 100% of the people [104:34] that are involved in a 7-Day event have [104:36] these effects so even if it's [104:40] 75% that means it's working three times [104:42] better than any drug and yet your [104:44] nervous system is manufacturing those [104:46] chemicals equal to the person's state of [104:48] being equal to their intention and and I [104:50] keep telling I keep asking the scien is [104:54] where are those chemicals coming from [104:59] the person's not eating a pill they're [105:02] not changing their diet they're not [105:05] doing anything and yet what wasn't there [105:08] before the event somehow is there after [105:12] the event it's coming from within us is [105:14] that because of some of the sort of [105:18] techniques and the processes you go [105:20] through at the event is it because of [105:22] the connect of a group of people coming [105:24] together and synchronizing and the [105:26] oxytocin is it all of the above it's all [105:28] of the above I mean almost 80% of the [105:30] people expressing the same genes and [105:31] making the same proteins that's unheard [105:34] of what we discovered is people change [105:36] people that's what we disc we discovered [105:38] that Collective networks of observers [105:41] determine reality and it's not the [105:43] number of people it's not the amount of [105:45] energy it's the most coherence that [105:47] takes place in the in the group and so [105:49] we're doing studies now with with [105:51] Collective networks we're doing studies [105:53] and measuring the effects of collective [105:56] Consciousness what does that do uh uh in [105:58] terms of field effects and and energy [106:02] when you say all of this and you talk [106:03] about this relationship between the body [106:04] and the mind it um it keeps making me [106:07] wonder about your beliefs of a higher [106:10] power or a God because it all sounds I [106:13] mean the more and more I learn about the [106:15] body and how interconnected it is it all [106:17] sounds just mystical it's the only way [106:20] to describe it so I wondered as you were [106:22] speaking I wrote down on my a lipad here [106:23] I said does Joe believe in God I do I do [106:26] I think there's one God but in that one [106:28] there's many yeah what is that mean that [106:31] means that means that God Lives within [106:33] you the Divine lives in every human [106:34] being that's what I believe and I think [106:37] it's really important for people to make [106:39] time for it to connect to it to fall in [106:41] love with it to stay aware of it to [106:43] bring it into their life by staying [106:46] aware of it and connecting to it and I [106:48] think the more we interact with it I [106:50] think the more it becomes us and the [106:52] more we become it and so removing the [106:55] veils the blocks the emotions the habits [106:58] the blind spots that stand in our way [107:01] between our connection to that unifying [107:04] field or God or the absolute or the [107:06] Creator or universal mind or Source or [107:10] Singularity the zero point field the [107:12] fertile void whatever you want to call [107:14] it the motherf father principle making [107:17] time to interact with it by removing the [107:20] things that stand in the way between us [107:22] and it allows us to get closer to love [107:25] right and I think that's what God is so [107:28] the expression of the [107:30] Divine the expression of God through the [107:32] human being would be a a person that's [107:35] more conscious more mindful more willful [107:39] more loving uh um um more giving that's [107:43] the nature of the Divine so its nature [107:45] becomes our nature right so I do believe [107:48] that um we're not linear beings living a [107:51] linear life I believe that we're [107:53] dimensional beings living a dimensional [107:55] life and and I do believe in that [107:58] Universal uh mind that Universal Power [108:00] and and making time to use it and to [108:03] interact with it and connect with it and [108:05] to reach for it and to become it um I [108:07] think it's a worthy Journey for people [108:09] thank you so much for the work that you [108:10] do it's a perfect sort of combination of [108:13] all the things that I think I care about [108:15] but also I think my audience care about [108:16] and if they are looking to go deeper [108:19] Beyond this podcast I would highly [108:21] recommend them trying to get a ticket to [108:23] one of your events very hard to get [108:25] tickets to your events so good luck to [108:27] you but I would highly recommend they go [108:29] to your website and they can see a full [108:31] list of events that you have coming up [108:33] there because it can be um from as I've 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