Spencer Pratt Sues Los Angeles Over Wildfire, Launches Mayoral Campaign

Spencer Pratt 因山火起诉洛杉矶并宣布竞选市长 Spencer Pratt 认为非政府组织的系统性腐败和市政疏忽引发了 Pacific Palisades 山火，并誓言通过严格执法和法务审计来恢复公共安全。 在 Pacific Palisades 山火中失去住所后，Spencer Pratt 启动了洛杉矶市长竞选，直接挑战市长 Karen Bass 和市政官僚体制。Pratt 批评了城市管理层，特别指出了蓄水库被放空、应急响应缺位，以及非政府组织在解决无家可归者问题项目中资金分配不当等情况。他提出的竞选纲领侧重于严格执行现有的公共安全法律、开展全面的法务审计、利用人工智能实现小企业许可审批自动化，并支持独立电影制作以重振该市经济。 斯宾塞·普拉特（Spencer Pratt）在1月7日太平洋帕利塞兹大火中失去住所后决定竞选洛杉矶市长，并就严重失职对洛杉矶市、加州政府及洛杉矶水电局（LADWP）提起诉讼。 (10:00) 普拉特披露火灾期间应急响应全面瘫痪，不仅缺乏疏散警报且911调度不足，紧邻其住宅、用于消防直升机取水的500万加仑帕利塞兹水库早在2024年6月就被LADWP完全抽干。 (5:00) 他批评非政府组织（NGO）借游民危机牟取暴利并导致建造成本飙升至每平方英尺750美元，主张在城市外围建立强制性自然康复基地，并计划在上任首周引入联邦调查员对相关机构进行全面法务审计。 (20:00) 在公共秩序与经济复苏方面，普拉特提议设立2至3周的警告期后全面严格执法以打击街头毒品与犯罪，同时推行AI自动化审批工具以彻底解决扼杀小企业的繁冗建筑许可问题。 (35:00)

Following the destruction of his home in the Pacific Palisades wildfire, Spencer Pratt argues that administrative negligence, bureaucratic corruption, and ideological inertia have incapacitated Los Angeles's municipal government. Positioning himself as an independent taxpayer candidate for mayor, Pratt outlines a platform centered on strict law enforcement, deregulation through automated permitting, and forensic financial audits. Wildfire Failures and Emergency Infrastructure Negligence (5:00) Pratt contends that the January 7 Pacific Palisades fire—which destroyed approximately 7,000 structures and killed 12 people—was exacerbated by systemic municipal failures rather than uncontrollable weather alone. He points out that the fire originated from a hot spot in the Lachman area that had smoldered for a week, and he cites firefighter whistleblowers who allege crews were instructed to abandon the site on New Year's Day. Furthermore, Pratt highlights that the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (LADWP) drained the 5-million-gallon Palisades emergency reservoir in June 2024, leaving local fire crews without adjacent helicopter dipping points. When the fire spread, Pratt reports that dispatchers informed him no firefighting assets were available and emergency check-ins for trapped residents were repeatedly denied, while warning sirens and neighborhood evacuation notices were never activated. In response to what he characterizes as gross negligence by city and state officials, Pratt engaged legal counsel from the Camp Fire litigation to file lawsuits against the City of Los Angeles, the State of California, and LADWP, while proposing future wildfire infrastructure that integrates private swimming pool cistern networks and heavy-lift helicopters. Homelessness Spending, NGO Incentives, and Treatment Reform (20:00) Pratt criticizes the city's homelessness strategy, asserting that non-governmental organizations (NGOs) and developers exploit taxpayer funding without reducing street populations. He highlights that state Project Homekey guidelines prohibit requiring sobriety within subsidized housing, creating environments that enable continuous substance abuse. To illustrate financial inefficiencies, Pratt cites a Westwood project where an $11 million property received $28 million to $29 million in city funds for the Weingart Center, ballooning construction costs to $750 per square foot compared to the typical $250 market benchmark. Contending that approximately 90% of the street population suffers from severe addiction, Pratt rejects placing non-enforced supportive housing near residential areas and schools. Instead, he proposes funding comprehensive, nature-based treatment facilities located outside dense urban centers, modeled after successful rural recovery centers. Additionally, Pratt pledges to deploy federal investigators during his first week as mayor to conduct forensic audits of all homelessness NGOs and municipal grant pipelines to investigate alleged kickbacks and political favoritism. Restoring Public Safety and Street-Level Order (35:00) Arguing that unaddressed public drug use, encampments, and indecency have compromised daily safety and forced the closure of downtown businesses, Pratt advocates for strict adherence to basic criminal laws. Drawing inspiration from San Francisco Mayor Daniel Lurie's enforcement model—which Pratt notes reduced car break-ins by 87%—he proposes establishing a two-to-three-week citywide warning period. After this window, law enforcement would systematically arrest and cite individuals for open-air narcotics consumption, public defecation, and property theft. Pratt claims that city leadership has suppressed standard policing by labeling citations as culturally insensitive, prompting demoralized citizens to stop reporting crimes to 911 altogether. He also targets conditions on the Metro transit network, arguing that capital investments like the D Line extension fail when rider safety is neglected. Pratt maintains that restoring order is a prerequisite for civic recovery, predicting that active enforcement will rapidly clear transit systems and revive street foot traffic. Dismantling Bureaucracy, AI Permitting, and Economic Recovery (55:00) To stimulate economic growth, Pratt proposes dismantling municipal red tape and modernizing City Hall's regulatory apparatus. He criticizes multi-year development delays caused by understaffed or remote planning departments, advocating for AI-driven software to automatically evaluate and approve standard architectural blueprints, zoning applications, and basic commercial licenses. Pratt argues this automation would lower housing construction costs from inflated subsidized levels down to private-market averages, while eliminating administrative barriers for small businesses along commercial corridors. His economic agenda also targets high-spending municipal divisions and specialized taxes. Pratt pledges to push for the repeal of the Measure ULA property transfer tax, curb tenant scams that extort cash-for-keys settlements from landlords, and audit the Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD), which he notes produces low reading and math proficiency despite spending $23,000 per student. To revive the entertainment sector, Pratt plans to eliminate municipal clearance fees for independent filmmakers, end street-gang extortion of location shoots through increased policing, and lobby Sacramento to expand production tax credits. Pratt frames his mayoral candidacy as an emergency civic intervention to dismantle machine politics and restore basic municipal functionality. However, executing his platform depends on surmounting substantial legal, fiscal, and institutional hurdles, including navigating public sector union resistance, altering state housing directives, and redirecting entrenched municipal budget allocations.

洛杉矶市长参选人Spencer Pratt以其在2025年1月帕利塞兹大火（Pacific Palisades Fire）中失去住宅的亲身经历为切入点，抨击现任市政府存在严重的官僚失职、利益输送与公用设施管理溃败；他主张打破建制派利益格局，通过恢复严格执法、彻底审计非政府组织（NGO）以及运用AI技术精简行政审批，全面重塑洛杉矶的公共安全与商业活力。 帕利塞兹火灾与市政防灾系统瘫痪 (5:00) Pratt在回顾2025年1月7日帕利塞兹大火时指出，这场灾难暴露出洛杉矶应急管理系统的致命缺陷。根据他的陈述，火势最初源于拉奇曼/高地（Lachman/Highlands）地区一周前未被彻底扑灭的阴燃点，且消防部门曾被下令撤离该处。在火灾蔓延当天，社区完全未收到危险大风预警，现场既无警报声响，亦无LAPD或警长巡逻车指示疏散。更严重的是，紧邻其住宅、容量达500万加仑的帕利塞兹水库（Palisades Reservoir），已于2024年6月被洛杉矶水电局（LADWP）总经理Janisse Quiñones下令排空，导致火情爆发时直升机无法就近汲水灭火。 Pratt指责市政最高层在灾难期间缺位失责：市长Karen Bass当时身处非洲，副市长处于软禁状态，市政府亦未及时申请固定翼空中灭火支援。当他致电当地消防站时，被直接告知“已无可用资源”；在受困于高速公路交通瘫痪并目睹房屋被焚毁期间，911调度员也以道路不通为由拒绝向其留守的父亲派遣救援。整场火灾摧毁了约7,000栋建筑并造成12人死亡。Pratt自己的房产彻底化为灰烬，且因八年保单被Farmers Insurance终止而被迫使用保障有限的加州FAIR Plan，促使他对洛杉矶市、加利福尼亚州及LADWP提起过失诉讼。 NGO利益网络与市政腐败指控 (20:00) 针对洛杉矶日趋失控的无家可归危机，Pratt指责市政府与非营利机构（NGO）之间形成了自肥的资金闭环。他指出，加州“Homekey”资金规定禁止在受资助住房内强制执行禁毒戒断要求，导致部分NGO高管在领取百万美元年薪的同时，打着“减害”旗号向吸毒者分发用具，却未真正安置人口。他举例称，西木区（Westwood）一处挂牌价1,100万美元的物业，在数日后被市政府拨付2,800万至2,900万美元纳税人资金交由Weingart中心收购；该项目的开发成本被推高至每平方英尺750美元，远超正常250美元的建造成本，且最终产权归NGO而非公众所有。 Pratt进一步透露，他已就市政腐败问题与美国国税局刑事调查部门（IRS-CI）进行了6次会面，声称联邦调查人员正在对部分涉嫌通过筹码、物资及服务收受贿赂以规避资金流向监管的官员立案调查，并指控市政厅员工在预期审计前夕销毁文件。他援引民调称市长Bass的公众支持率已降至20%的历史低位，并承诺若在6月2日的选举中胜选，将在就任第一周调派联邦刑事调查团队，对所有涉事NGO与市政账目开展全面司法法务审计。 治安整治方案与旧金山执法范式 (35:00) Pratt认为，洛杉矶商业凋敝与市政困境的核心在于法治和公共秩序的崩溃。他指出，街头公开吸毒和随地便溺现象已迫使100多家本地餐馆关门，市中心办公楼因安全隐患甚至禁止员工外出就餐；由于市民对救援无望而放弃报警，官方犯罪统计数据已被严重扭曲，而基层警员则因政客所称的“文化敏感性”被限制对露宿者执法。Pratt提出，街头约90%的流浪人员患有严重毒瘾，解决之道并非在居民区分散安置床位，而是在城市核心区之外建立类似意大利模式的自然恢复性强制戒毒基地。 在执法手段上，Pratt借鉴了旧金山市长Daniel Lurie以法治扭转局面的成效，指出严格执行现有法律使旧金山车辆盗窃案下降了87%。他计划在洛杉矶推行两到三周的通告期，明确宣告将不再容忍公开吸毒、暴露与盗窃，期满后由警方严格执行逮捕，同时联合疾控中心（CDC）对滋生恶性疾病的帐篷营地进行全面消杀。他表示已选定一名专门负责执法的副市长人选，并计划引入多位愿意领取1美元象征性年薪的企业高管协助优化150亿美元的城市预算。 审批流程革新与多维复兴愿景 (55:00) 在行政与经济体制改革方面，Pratt严厉批评洛杉矶建筑安全部门及公用事业机构的官僚主义与低效远程办公。他列举可负担住房开发商耗时两年半仍卡在审批流程，普通街角杂货店办证耗时一年等案例。为此，他提倡引入人工智能（AI）工具对符合标准的常规商业执照、分区和设计方案实行自动核准（Auto-Greenlighting），绕过人为拖延，并将住宅建造成本降低至每平方英尺250美元。在城市规划上，他主张摒弃SB 79法案下监狱般的单调建筑，推动装饰艺术（Art Deco）建筑风格复兴，并建设运河与高架自行车道网络。 针对洛杉矶的支柱产业与基础设施，Pratt主张通过减免场地许可费、消除街头帮派勒索、游说州政府取消影视税收抵免上限等举措，大力扶持独立制片人以重塑好莱坞；对公共交通系统，他强调在无法保障安全前扩建线路毫无意义，必须严加执法清除治安与卫生隐患。此外，在防灾长效机制上，他承诺在火灾高危山坡社区建立每隔一英里的直升机取水点、连接私人泳池并引入支奴干（Chinook）重型直升机，同时废除ULA“豪宅税”与打击职业占屋者欺诈，以重塑商业信心并吸引保险机构重返加州。 Pratt的纲领体现了鲜明的“愤怒纳税人”立场，主张以常识执法、商业化效率和跨越常规建制的方式扭转洛杉矶的衰退。然而，其愿景高度依赖多项尚待验证的假设，包括AI自动审批能否兼顾建筑安全监管标准、法外强制戒毒设施面临的法律与民权挑战，以及在缺乏工会支持且面临市议会潜在制衡的背景下，其强硬的官僚清洗与审计计划能否顺利落地推进。

## Background 该视频由 YouTube 频道“All-In Podcast”于 2026 年 5 月 27 日发布。根据页面简介，节目主要围绕斯宾塞·普拉特（Spencer Pratt）参选洛杉矶市长展开，探讨了帕利塞兹大火内幕、非营利组织（NGO）腐败、游民危机与治安崩溃、利用 AI 改革审批流程以及他的八年治市愿景。 ## TL;DR 在亲历帕利塞兹大火烧毁家园、见证水库被提前抽干以及 911 拒绝出警等一系列市政系统性溃败后，斯宾塞·普拉特（Spencer Pratt）决定挺身参选洛杉矶市长以打破建制派垄断。他猛烈抨击现任市长凯伦·巴斯与极左官僚体系，揭露了数十亿美元游民救济金被非营利组织（NGO）与政客层层套现洗劫的腐败黑洞，以及法律不被执行导致的街头失序与好莱坞产业外流。普拉特主张将“恢复现行法律的严格执行”作为一切治理的基石，全面推行强制戒毒、引入专业企业家与 AI 极简审批机制为商业松绑，并对所有吞噬纳税人资金的机构展开独立审计。他将参选定义为一场为期八年的“公民服役”，承诺在为洛杉矶重筑安全与繁荣后绝不恋栈权力、回归家庭。 ## Atmosphere & style 整场对话火药味十足且极具情绪张力，展现出体制外挑战者直面既得利益“谎言机器”时的决绝与犀利。普拉特褪去了外界对真人秀名人的刻板印象，以一位痛失家园的受害者和愤怒纳税人的真实姿态，用毫无政客辞令掩饰的大白话对市政官僚展开毁灭性控诉。从亲眼透过手机监控看着儿子婴儿床化为火海的绝望创伤，到对基层警察与受害母亲们的深切共情，访谈兼具撕开体制溃烂的尖锐刺痛感与依靠常识重塑法治的理想主义豪情。 ## Bulletin - [03:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=181s) 斯宾塞·普拉特（Spencer Pratt）正式宣布竞选洛杉矶市长，痛陈帕利塞兹大火背后水利设施被抽干、应急警报全面瘫痪以及 911 拒绝救援等政府严重失职。 - [20:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=1200s) 普拉特披露加州在游民救助上投入超 250 亿美元却适得其反，指控“FireAid”等非营利组织（NGO）与关联开发商以高达 70 万美元/床位的虚高成本洗劫公共财政并形成利益输送链。 - [35:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=2100s) 提出以“铁腕执法”为核心的治理蓝图，倡导两到三周全城通牒后彻底清除违规街头帐篷营地，全面实行强制戒毒，并引入 AI 系统重塑审批流程以实现合规项目“自动放行”。 - [16:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=990s) 承诺践行罗马执政官辛辛纳图斯模式，完成 8 年“服役”后绝不留恋权位，并联合承诺出资 5 亿美元的民间资本与 1 美元年薪高管重构洛杉矶基建与经济活力。 ## Key takeaways - [05:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=300s) 帕利塞兹大火并非单纯天灾，洛杉矶水电局（LADWP）早在火灾半年前便排空了 500 万加仑的关键水库，灭火现场陷入无水可用的绝境。 - [10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=600s) 火灾发生期间洛杉矶应急管理体系全面瘫痪，全程无警笛与广播撤离通知，911 接线员甚至直接以没有紧急救援人员可派为由拒绝出警。 - [13:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=810s) 洛杉矶消防局内部吹哨人揭露，前线早被命令撤离仍在阴燃的起火点，市长凯伦·巴斯涉嫌向修改灾后行动报告的官员施压以掩盖过失。 - [16:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=990s) 普拉特参选效仿古罗马辛辛纳图斯模式，立誓执行 8 年任期后重归家庭，拒绝成为靠纳税人金钱牟利的职业政客。 - [20:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=1200s) 非营利组织（NGO）体系沦为洗劫财政的黑洞，大火筹集的 1 亿美元“FireAid”善款灾民分文未见，且受灾群众被空头礼品卡说辞搪塞。 - [22:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=1365s) 加州“家匙计划”存在制度漏洞与地产套利，政府以数倍溢价向 NGO 拨款收购资产并报销虚高工程款，甚至规定“禁毒物业”无法获得财政补贴。 - [30:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=1800s) 洛杉矶治安恶化引发严重商业外溢与餐饮倒闭潮，基层警员因高层将处罚流浪汉定性为“文化不敏感”而彻底丧失执法权。 - [35:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=2100s) 借鉴旧金山铁腕执法使汽车砸窗案暴跌 87% 的经验，普拉特主张设立数周倒计时通牒，随后无死角清理街头帐篷并联动疾控中心治理公卫危机。 - [40:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=2400s) 洛杉矶联合学区（LAUSD）生均预算与教师薪资位列全美第一，但英语和数学达标率极低，普拉特主张建立公开透明的“极简仪表盘”全面审计财政黑洞。 - [43:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=2604s) 反对耗资 30 亿美元公帑扩建会展中心，主张引入匿名富豪 5 亿美元私人资本以公私合营（PPP）模式打造“趣味会展中心”。 - [50:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=3000s) 洛杉矶影视业面临外流危机，普拉特提出减免审批与场地费用全方位扶持独立制作团队，并游说下任州长取消影视税收抵免上限。 - [53:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=3210s) 大都会交通局（Metro）消耗 15% 民用预算却仅有约 5% 乘坐率，必须严惩逃票、恢复公共交通安全感后方可继续追加基建投入。 - [56:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=3385s) 现行建筑审批机制耗时数年且扼杀小商业，普拉特主张引入 AI 自动审核图纸并推行“达标即盖章”的极简审批制度。 - [01:05:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=3900s) 构建密集野火应急防御网络，包括各社区设立 1 英里直升机取水点、接入私人泳池后备水源、采购重型直升机，并废除 ULA 豪宅税以激活地产经济。 - [01:08:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=4098s) 普拉特坚信拯救洛杉矶无需乌托邦式的空头理论，唯有严格执行既有法律，才能促使资本与就业回流并重建宜居环境。 ## Detailed walkthrough ### [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=0s) 辩论高光与直面体制的“谎言机器” 斯宾塞·普拉特（Spencer Pratt）做客 All-In 播客，主持人一开场便盛赞他在前几天的市长竞选辩论中表现惊艳，引发了社交网络和朋友圈的轰动。普拉特坦言辩论结束后的唯一遗憾是时间太短——“我真希望那是两三个小时的辩论，因为现任政府那些彻底失败的烂摊子，我们甚至都没来得及触及皮毛。”他形容这场辩论是自己多年来最过瘾的一刻。在他看来，现任建制派政客早已成了“病态的撒谎者”，当一个只拿着事实与真相的人站在台上时，选民才会产生如此强烈的共鸣；观众看够了政客信口雌黄却无人敢当面拆穿的场面。普拉特笑称，为了保持克制他其实憋得很辛苦，因为支持他的民主党妈妈们反复叮嘱他一定要保持“冷静、沉着、克制”，否则他早就当场指着对方大喊“骗子！骗子！”了。 许多人惊讶于普拉特在辩论中对政策细节与城市治理事实的娴熟掌握。普拉特解释称，这种准备完全是被逼出来的：几个月来，他在主流媒体上经历的每一场采访都充斥着敌意与争辩，因为整个既得利益政治机器根本不想让他挤进竞选赛道。相比之下，洛杉矶市长凯伦·巴斯（Karen Bass）或市议员尼西亚·拉曼（Nithya Raman）面对媒体时可以随口编造谎言，记者只会点头致谢；而只要普拉特开口，媒体就会严苛拷问“谁在场、穿什么、早餐吃了什么”。在随时面临挑刺的环境下，他必须做到所有论据无懈可击、完全基于事实。普拉特还透露，他曾向代表自己起诉洛杉矶市府、加州州府及洛杉矶水电局（LADWP）的全美顶尖律师彼得（Peter）请教，面对谎话连篇的对手如何保持心态平静，对方回答：“斯宾塞，因为我手里永远握着真相。”这句话成了他走上辩论台的最大底气。 - 普拉特将与建制派的日常交锋形容为全天候高强度的辩论特训，这迫使他必须掌握全方位的硬核证据。 - 他直言主流媒体对传统政客采取极度纵容的双重标准，而体制外挑战者必须做到“防弹级别”的严谨才能立足。 --- ### [03:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=181s) 致命的前奏：警报缺失与帕利塞兹大火爆发 谈及竞选市长的根本原因，普拉特回顾了改变他人生的太平洋帕利塞兹（Pacific Palisades）火灾。他首先强调，整场悲剧暴露出洛杉矶紧急预警系统全面瘫痪。火灾发生前夕，由于儿子患上严重肺炎，普拉特连续几天通宵未眠照看孩子体温，手不离手机，但他从未收到任何有关极端危险干燥天气的官方警告。1月7日清晨，普拉特正进行着自己的日常作息：冲上一杯意式浓缩咖啡，准备像自《Reputation》专辑发行以来的习惯一样，在 Snapchat 上跟着霉霉（Taylor Swift）的《Look What You Made Me Do》跳舞。 平静突然被打破。家里的保姆抱着普拉特当时仅两岁的孩子慌忙跑进屋，喊道街上的工人们发现山上有明火。普拉特跑到过去九年里每天徒步的山坡上，看到高地（Highlands）方向升起浓烟。后来的调查证实，该起火点位于拉奇曼巷（Lachman Lane），且实际上早在七天前就已阴燃了一整周，当局却从未彻底扑灭或妥善监控。作为在洛杉矶土生土长的本地人，普拉特经历过盖蒂山火（Getty Fire），甚至在几周前他的朋友们才刚刚在马里布扑灭了一场火灾，他也正计划购置水管和卡车自建民间消防队。面对浓烟，他并未感到恐慌，只是通过 FaceTime 联系了妻子海蒂（Heidi Montag），建议她先收拾纸尿裤和孩子衣物，带孩子撤往住在同区的父母家避险。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 帕利塞兹火灾初期应急系统失效流程 accDescr: 展现从早期隐患未排除到官方预警全面瘫痪的连锁失效过程。 subgraph 灾前隐患与预警缺失 A["拉奇曼巷余火隐蔽阴燃长达7天"] --> B["极端大风干燥天气预警未能送达居民"] end subgraph 火势爆发与初期应对 B --> C["1月7日早晨工人目击山上明火"] C --> D["居民依靠肉眼与口口相传发觉险情"] D --> E["家属先行撤离至地势较低的父母家"] end ``` --- ### [05:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=300s) 被抽干的水库、沉默的警笛与沦陷的家园 普拉特选择留在山上观察，并与邻居们保持通话。他当时深信消防队很快就会赶到，因为太平洋帕利塞兹居民缴纳了巨额税款，“整个洛杉矶近四分之一的税收可能都来自这里，他们绝不可能任由整个小镇烧成平地”。更重要的是，普拉特家隔壁就是容量达500万加仑的帕利塞兹水库（Palisades Reservoir），消防部门以往每两周就在那里进行一次演习，甚至会要求普拉特挪车以便连接水龙带，直升机也能随时取水灭火。然而，市长巴斯在辩论中坚称全市“只有一座水库是空的”，普拉特痛斥其公然撒谎：巴斯不仅将原本为防山火并配有蓄水池的圣伊内斯水库（Santa Ynez Reservoir）谎称为普通饮用水库，更对紧邻他家被抽干的帕利塞兹水库视而不见。洛杉矶水电局总经理贾妮斯·基尼奥内斯（Janisse Quiñones）早在2024年6月就下令排空了该水库，直接导致灭火现场水源断绝。 随着火情蔓延，现实迅速击碎了普拉特的幻想。他亲自致电消防部门请求调派一辆消防车阻截枯木死草，对方却直接答复：“我们手头没有任何可用资源。”随后赶来的父亲只能和他一起拿起普通家用浇花水管徒劳地向山坡喷水。更离谱的是，火势迅速从特梅斯卡尔峡谷（Temescal Canyon）翻越过来，逼近他父母的住宅，全家不得不再次转移。整场灾难中，街区上没有响起过哪怕一声消防警笛，也没有任何警察或治安官巡逻车用扩音器广播撤离指令。“现实根本不像好莱坞灾难电影那样有人维持秩序，如果不是闻到烟味，你甚至感觉不到危险。” ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 洛杉矶市府防灾灭火机制崩溃链条 accDescr: 展示关键水利设施被抽干、指挥链缺位及现场无装备支援的崩溃过程。 subgraph 基础设施瘫痪 W1["LADWP 于2024年6月排空500万加仑帕利塞兹水库"] W2["市府混淆圣伊内斯水库功能，防山火蓄水设施失效"] end subgraph 指挥链断裂 C1["市长凯伦·巴斯身在非洲访问"] C2["代理副市长处于居家监禁状态"] C3["洛杉矶市府未呼叫固定翼飞机洒水支援"] end subgraph 前线救援崩塌 F1["消防调度回应：无任何可用资源"] F2["警报系统失灵：全程无警笛、无警车广播通知"] F3["山火直扑住宅区，居民仅能自备家用小水管防守"] end W1 & W2 --> F1 C1 & C2 & C3 --> F1 F1 --> F3 F2 --> F3 ``` - **水库干涸内幕**：洛杉矶水电局早在火灾半年前便抽干了关键消防水库，削弱了灭火直升机与消防车的核心水源补给。 - **风速谎言**：巴斯市长事后声称狂风导致无法开展空中救援，但普拉特指出山顶阵风从未超过每小时40英里，CBS 新闻的现场调查记者随后也证实了普拉特的陈述属实。 - **指挥中枢真空**：普拉特与美国林业局（US Forest Service）消防队长鲍比·加西亚（Bobby Garcia）交流后获悉，扑救初始阶段并未按照规范对火势两侧同时包抄；当时巴斯市长远在非洲，受命代管的副市长处于居家监禁状态，洛杉矶市甚至从未正式申请固定翼灭火飞机支援，仅靠洛杉矶县出动直升机支撑。 - **痛失家园**：火势最终吞没了普拉特的住所，他只能通过手机安防监控远程目睹大火烧毁家园，甚至亲眼看着儿子的床在烈焰中坍塌烧成心形，场面既绝望又令人心碎。 ### [10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=600s) 监控下的绝望：大火吞噬家园与911的冰冷回应 斯宾塞·普拉特（Spencer Pratt）回忆起火灾发生时那令人心碎且极其荒诞的一幕：他被困在 10 号公路与 405 号高速公路交汇的匝道上，动弹不得，只能通过手机监控画面看着大火一步步吞噬自己的家。他看到火焰如心形般从儿子的床底窜起，随后一个房间接着一个房间被火舌彻底吞没。然而，比眼睁睁看着所有家当化为灰烬更让他崩溃的，是联系不上住在断崖区（The Bluffs）的父亲。普拉特拼命拨打 911 报警电话，生怕父亲在试图救房时摔倒或被困火场，但接线员在问清地址后却冷冰冰地回复：“那里没有紧急救援人员可以前往。” 普拉特感到不可思议且极度愤怒，因为通往他父母家至少有 12 条路线，官方所谓的“救援人员无法抵达”完全是无稽之谈。他的父亲最终幸运生还，并证实当时道路畅通，完全可以驾车进出。这段亲身经历让普拉特不寒而栗：在大火中丧生的 12 个人，在生死关头他们的亲属拨打 911 时，恐怕得到的也是同样冷漠绝情的拒绝。 火灾发生后，普拉特一家陷入了彻底的财务绝境。他在 2009 年事业巅峰期曾花费数百万美元，邀请全球顶尖的音乐制作人和词曲作者为妻子海蒂·蒙塔格（Heidi Montag）制作流行音乐专辑，但当时缺乏宣发资金，专辑并未大爆。巧合的是，火灾发生在 1 月 7 日，而 1 月 10 日恰好是该专辑发行 15 周年纪念日。面对一无所有的处境，普拉特开启 TikTok 直播，坦承房子被毁、身无分文，恳求网友支持并购买妻子的旧专辑。在全球网友的支持下，这张专辑奇迹般登顶了包括 12 个国家的 iTunes 及 Billboard 榜单，为他们带来了约 15 万美元的收入。虽然这笔钱远无法与流媒体诞生前实体唱片动辄数百万美元的黄金时代相比，也无法补足数百万的重建成本，但它在情绪上给了处于创伤中的普拉特巨大的精神支柱。 - **911求救遭拒**：普拉特多次尝试调取当时的 911 报警录音以公开真相，但官方声称找不到相关录音。 - **大火伤亡与损失**：火灾导致 12 人丧生，烧毁了约 7,000 座建筑物。 - **保险困境**：在向 Farmers 保险公司连续缴纳 8 年保费后，普拉特一家惨遭保险公司解约抛弃，只能被迫转向昂贵且保障有限的加州公平计划（California Fair Plan），根本无力承担重建费用。 --- ### [13:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=810s) 宣战建制派：从舆论反派到死磕政府的起诉者 面对废墟，普拉特无法接受“天灾不可抗”的官方说辞，决心追究背后的真正原因。他联系了一位曾在天堂镇营火（Camp Fire）诉讼中击败南加州爱迪生电力公司（Southern California Edison）的律师好友，决定正式对洛杉矶市政府、加利福尼亚州政府以及洛杉矶水务局（LADWP）发起诉讼。 在普拉特公开质疑官方应对不力时，加州州长加文·纽森（Gavin Newsom）的社交团队及《洛杉矶时报》（Los Angeles Times）等主流媒体迅速将他定性为“气候变化阴谋论者”，声称这场灾难完全由极端天气引起。然而，普拉特表示自己早已是习惯被媒体黑化的公众人物，拥有极强的抗压能力，根本不在乎被主流政客抹黑。随着法律诉讼推进并进入证据开示阶段（Discovery），加州大火背后的政府过失正逐渐浮出水面。 洛杉矶消防局（LAFD）的内部吹哨人也开始私下联系普拉特，揭露了大量令人震惊的内幕： - **致命的撤退命令**：消防员透露，早在 1 月 1 日，他们就被上级命令撤离仍在阴燃的拉赫曼火场（Lachman Fire），最终导致死灰复燃酿成大祸。 - **涉嫌妨碍司法**：洛杉矶市长凯伦·巴斯（Karen Bass）正在向修改灾后行动报告（After-Action Report）的营级主管施压，涉嫌篡改记录与妨碍司法。 - **削减预算预警**：消防局长曾为了 1,700 万美元的预算削减与巴斯市长激烈抗争，并明确警告过削减预算将无法保障洛杉矶市民的安全。 --- ### [16:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=990s) 参选市长：打破政治垄断的草根运动与八年“服役”誓言 眼见凯伦·巴斯极有可能在 6 月 2 日的选举中以超过 51% 的选票轻松连任，却没有任何强有力的挑战者站出来，普拉特主动致电此前参选过市长的亿万富翁开发商里克·卡鲁索（Rick Caruso）。卡鲁索在电话中明确表示自己不会参选，并直接鼓励普拉特：“你去对付巴斯。”得到这一回复后，普拉特决定亲自披挂上阵参选洛杉矶市长。 普拉特的竞选广告在网络上迅速爆火，甚至形成了全国性的现象级传播。其中最轰动的一支广告，将市长巴斯的豪华住宅、市议员尼西亚·拉曼（Nithya Raman）价值数百万的豪宅，与普拉特火灾后暂住的清风房车（Airstream）进行了强烈对比，打破了政治广告的历史传播纪录。许多民间的支持者（包括传闻中的查理·柯兰等创意人士）自发制作草根宣传片，将这场竞选升华为一场跨越政治党派的社会运动。普拉特强调，他参选绝非为了追求政治权力或代表某个政党，而是一个被官僚体制背叛的愤怒纳税人在行使公民责任。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: Spencer Pratt 参选洛杉矶市长决策路径 accDescr: 展现从灾难发生、内部爆料、政界缺位到普拉特最终参选并引发草根运动的演进逻辑。 subgraph 催化阶段["灾难与内幕暴露"] A["帕利塞兹大火爆发<br/>家园烧毁/人员伤亡"] --> B["LAFD内部吹哨人爆料<br/>预算削减与瞒报过失"] end subgraph 决策阶段["打破政治垄断"] B --> C["市长巴斯连任无对手<br/>胜率高达 51%+"] C --> D["致电 Rick Caruso 确认其弃选<br/>Caruso 鼓励：'你去对付巴斯'"] D --> E["普拉特正式宣布参选"] end subgraph 发酵阶段["草根运动与行动理念"] E --> F["对标豪宅 vs 房车广告爆火<br/>唤起选民情感共鸣"] F --> G["确立'辛辛纳图斯'模式<br/>8年任期服役后回归家庭"] end ``` 普拉特援引美国建国先父约翰·亚当斯（John Adams）关于“没有私人美德就没有公共美德”的论述，以及托马斯·杰斐逊（Thomas Jefferson）关于公民轮流承担公共职责的观点，批评职业政客将公共治理变成了谋取私利的终身产业。他把自己比作古罗马传奇执政官辛辛纳图斯（Cincinnatus）——在国家危难时从农田走上战场，平定危机后拒绝贪恋权力，重归田园家庭： - **八年“服役期”**：普拉特承诺，自己参选就像完成一场为期 8 年的“服役”（Tour of Duty），目标是将洛杉矶打造成全球第一的城市，任务达成后绝不留恋权位，立刻回归家庭生活。 - **前线行动基地**：他幽默地指出，大家看到的房车并不是他的“家”，而是他抗击建制派腐败的“前线行动基地”（Forward Operating Base）。 - **硬核解决街头危机**：面对洛杉矶每天有 7 名游民暴尸街头的惨剧，他痛斥政府将数十亿美元税款浪费在无休止的“建床位”骗局上。普拉特强调，街头游民危机 90% 本质是严重的吸毒成瘾问题，首要任务是推行**强制戒毒治疗**，而非一味在繁华昂贵的西区或居民区旁设立低效收容所。 ### [20:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=1200s) 戒毒新愿景与非营利组织（NGO）的腐败黑洞 斯宾塞·普拉特（Spencer Pratt）对洛杉矶无家可归与毒瘾危机的解决路径提出了截然不同的构想。他主张在优美的自然环境中为成瘾者建立康复设施，而不是把他们关在像监狱一样的 250 平方英尺水泥小盒子里。他提到好友马特·赫斯（Matt Hess）在阿肯色州本顿维尔（Bentonville）为退伍军人建立的精良康复基地，以及意大利某亿万富翁为成瘾者打造的疗养社区。斯宾塞认为，加州在此类项目上投入了超过 250 亿美元，完全有财力在自然环境中建设兼具康复与各种支持服务的综合性基地；更关键的是必须进行**分流管理**：退伍军人、单身母亲家庭以及惯犯毒瘾者应当被分开安置在不同区域，而不是混居在一栋楼里。 然而，斯宾塞指出，真正阻碍这种合理模式落地的正是从中牟取暴利的 NGO 体系。主持人提问：很多人一听到批评 NGO 就会扣上“MAGA 话术”的帽子，进而拒绝倾听事实，那么 NGO 究竟是如何运作并导致“洛杉矶在过去十年里将游民预算增加了 10 倍，而街头游民数量不仅没减少反而翻倍且恶化”的？ 斯宾塞直言，官方公布的游民统计数据严重造假——市长凯伦·巴斯（Karen Bass）宣称游民减少了 17%，但兰德公司（Rand Corporation）的研究却显示增长了 30%。官方人员只是开车在街上数数，根本不敢走进桥下、帐篷甚至下水道去清点。更恶劣的是帕利塞兹大火（Palisades Fire）后筹集的所谓“FireAid”慈善基金： - **FireAid 筹集了 1 亿美元**：火灾受害者给斯宾塞发消息表示分文未见。斯宾塞前往华盛顿敦促参议员介入调查，随后 FireAid 聘请律所发出辩解信，信中竟承认直接给受灾群众发钱的 NGO“屈指可数”（不足 10 家），甚至辩称发放的是礼品卡，而灾民从未有人收到过哪怕一张 500 美元的购物卡。 - **吸血税金与洗钱循环**：斯宾塞痛斥这些 NGO 拿着纳税人的钱，给吸毒者发吸毒管、针管和纳洛酮（Narcan），任由他们一晚药物过量十几次，靠维持危机来持续骗取拨款。 --- ### [22:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=1365s) 韦恩加特中心地产骗局与“家匙计划”漏洞 斯宾塞澄清，向他揭露 NGO 内幕的并非右翼人士，而是一位身为人权律师的民主党妈妈。在她居住的韦斯特伍德（Westwood）社区，原本安置老年人的庇护物业被强行清退，交由老牌无家可归者服务机构韦恩加特中心（Weingart Center）接管： ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: NGO地产套利模式 accDescr: 展示非营利组织与市政资金如何通过溢价收购与空壳开发商层层套现的过程 subgraph Acquisition["物业买卖与加价"] A["市面挂牌出售价格<br/>$11,000,000"] -->|仅过6天| B["市政府纳税人资金拨款<br/>$28,000,000 - $29,000,000"] B --> C["Weingart 机构买下物业<br/>（纳税人出钱，产权归 NGO 私有）"] end subgraph Kickbacks["开发商回扣与利益输送"] C --> D["空壳关联开发商介入"] D -->|正常建造成本: $250/sq ft| E["报销虚高成本: $750/sq ft"] E --> F["巨额差价转化为内部回扣与分红"] end subgraph Operation["实际交付与安置"] F --> G["数年过去实际安置人数: 0 人"] end ``` 这种腐败模式不仅存在于韦斯特伍德，圣佩德罗（San Pedro）一处距离学校仅 600 英尺的 8000 万美元项目中同样在上演： - **极其昂贵的单人安置成本**：计划安置 80 人，平摊下来相当于每安置一个床位耗资高达 70 万美元。 - **高管薪酬与监管缺失**：NGO 高层领取上百万美元的年薪，副手拿 50 万美元年薪，而法律上却没有硬性指标强制要求他们必须真正安置多少人。 - **加州“家匙计划”（Project Homekey）荒谬规则**：州政府拨款有苛刻附加条件——如果地方政府规定安置房内“禁止吸毒”，就无法获得该项资金；只有允许在住房内继续吸毒，项目才能拿到州财政补贴。 面对主持关于“政客为何放任 NGO 滥用资金”的提问，斯宾塞分析，这既是政客推卸责任的“政绩避风港”（假装在做事、一旦出事就把责任推给 NGO），更深层则是政治献金与超级政治行动委员会（PAC）之间的暗箱勾结。他透露，司法部与国税局已经在进行调查，腐败官员使用扑克筹码、商品和服务变相受贿；洛杉矶市政厅甚至已在秘密销毁和碎纸化相关账目文件。斯宾塞承诺，一旦当选市长，第一周就将调动 IRS 刑事调查团队全面审计所有 NGO。 --- ### [27:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=1630s) 凯伦·巴斯 20% 支持率与市政选战内幕 谈及现任市长凯伦·巴斯（Karen Bass），斯宾塞指出外界对民调的误读。巴斯目前的支持率仅有 20%，创下了洛杉矶历史上在任市长支持率的新低，意味着有 80% 的市民对她的施政极度不满： - **市议员拉曼（Nithya Raman）的突袭参选**：由于民主党社会主义者（DSA）及其盟友察觉到巴斯选情崩溃、极可能败给斯宾塞，市议员拉曼在报名前最后一小时紧急宣布参选，扮演“伪建制民主党人”的分流角色。而讽刺的是，两周前她才公开为巴斯背书，巴斯此前也曾亲自为濒临落选的拉曼挨家挨户敲门拉票。 - **拒绝接受自然灾害说辞**：主流媒体为巴斯开脱，称帕利塞兹大火是强风引起的“史无前例的天灾”；斯宾塞驳斥称，巴斯生平就经历过贝尔艾尔火灾（Bel Air Fire）和曼德维尔峡谷火灾（Mandeville Canyon Fire），这绝非毫无先例，灾难的根本原因在于水库被抽干、警报失灵和市政管理无能。 - **选民民调失真**：斯宾塞强调自己的基本盘根本不接听垃圾骚扰电话，在当前治安崩溃、人人自危的社会氛围下，普通市民在街头也不会理睬陌生调查员的搭讪，真实的民意远比虚假的民调更为愤怒。 ### [30:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=1800s) 意识形态之争与治安崩溃：洛杉矶如何被政治部落化拖垮 谈及洛杉矶现任市长凯伦·巴斯（Karen Bass）的政治背景，斯宾塞·普拉特（Spencer Pratt）言辞激烈地指出，巴斯与古巴卡斯特罗政权关系密切，曾作为“文塞雷莫斯旅”（Venceremos Brigade）成员前往古巴多达20次。当外界质疑斯宾塞只是个真人秀明星、毫无从政经验时，斯宾塞毫不留情地回击道：“我可没有去和那些后来炸毁国会大厦的恐怖分子一起接受训练。”他指出，巴斯直到当年竞选副总统搭档资格时才仓促与共产主义划清界限。主持人顺势提出一个更为深刻的问题：西雅图、纽约相继选出公开自称社会主义者的市长，这种思潮为何在各大城市乃至全美蔓延？走上街头的普通选民到底在渴望什么？ 斯宾塞认为，绝大多数市民根本不清楚这些政策的实际代价，当下充斥的是严重的政治部落主义（tribal politics），“就像街头帮派一样（gang gang），人们只顾站队，把地方市政彻底国家化了”。本该专注搞好路灯、修补路坑、维护街道安全的地方政府，被空洞的党派口号所裹挟。政客们承诺“全民发钱、平抑物价”，但斯宾塞直言这完全是个谎言。他在近期活动中遇到一位管理多名道奇队球员的委内瑞拉裔男子拉法（Rafa），对方情绪激动得就像《勇敢的心》（Braveheart）里的威廉·华莱士，当面直冲着他说：“我为我的家人拼尽了一切，我绝不允许我的孩子们在洛杉矶忍受社会主义！我太清楚那会导致什么后果了。”斯宾塞指出，市长不可能凭空降低商品成本，改善民生的唯一出路是放开束缚让商业蓬勃运转，把真正的财富装进市民的口袋。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 治安恶化与商业衰退恶性循环图 accDescr: 展示毒品泛滥和治安恶化如何导致客流断绝与实体商户倒闭的连锁反应 subgraph StreetCrisis["街头秩序崩溃"] A["街头毒品泛滥 / 随地排泄"] --> B["街头暴力与执法瘫痪"] end subgraph EconomicImpact["商业与经济冲击"] B --> C["市民闭门不出 / 依赖外卖外送"] C --> D["洛杉矶倒闭超100家知名餐馆"] D --> E["市政税基萎缩 / 商业衰退"] end ``` 然而，商业复苏的最大绊脚石就是荡然无存的城市安全。斯宾塞披露，由于街头吸毒者随地便溺、恐吓行人，洛杉矶已有超过100家优秀餐馆关门大吉；一位在洛杉矶市中心（Downtown LA）担任律师的母亲甚至透露，由于大楼外极度不安全，公司明令禁止员工离开写字楼，三餐必须依赖外卖送进楼内。针对市政官员吹嘘“谋杀率下降即犯罪率下降”的说辞，斯宾塞愤怒地驳斥这只是全国性自然趋势，真实犯罪率看似下降的唯一原因是“市民已经绝望到放弃拨打 911 报警了”。他讲述了一个当天刚听到的真实例子：在 Wilshire 大道的 FBI 联邦大楼正前方，一名狂躁分子手持 PVC 塑料管疯狂砸车、强行从公交车上拆卸自行车并向路人发起袭击。目击者多次拨打 911 均遭遇冷漠推脱，警察赶到后甚至以“没有目击证人”为由试图推卸逮捕责任。警察私下向斯宾塞透露，他们渴望执法，但市政高层以“向无固定住址者开罚单在文化上不够包容敏感”（culturally insensitive）为由横加阻拦，令一线警力彻底丧失执法权。 - 现任市长凯伦·巴斯曾以文塞雷莫斯旅成员身份访问古巴20次，其意识形态背景受到斯宾塞强烈质疑。 - 洛杉矶市区治安持续恶化，导致市中心超过100家餐饮企业关门，部分大型机构甚至明令限制员工步行外出。 - 基层执法部门透露，由于前线政客将对无家可归流浪人员开具罚单定性为“文化不敏感”，导致警员执法权力严重受限。 --- ### [35:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=2100s) 贫民窟危机全城扩散与旧金山铁腕执法的启示 面对外界将其打上“愤怒的白人男性”（angry white guy）的标签，斯宾塞反唇相讥：“在洛杉矶，只要你老老实实交税，无论你的种族、性别或自我认同是什么，你都会感到出离愤怒！”他强调，街头危机早已不再局限于贫民窟（Skid Row）。甚至连《All-In》播客即将在洛杉矶市中心举办的年度峰会，也因周边可怕的街头状况而决定9月后永久撤离。斯宾塞痛陈，这种溃烂已经侵蚀到了包括富裕社区在内的整座城市：在他家被山火烧毁前，就在家对面的公立小学与儿子就读的卫理公会幼儿园门口，几乎每天清晨 7 点 45 分都有一名流浪女子当着孩子们的面清洗私密部位，并在理发店门口随地排便，即便多次报警，洛杉矶警局也根本无能为力。 斯宾塞随后将目光转向邻近的旧金山。新任市长丹尼尔·卢里（Daniel Lurie）上任后采取果断措施，严格恢复既有法律的强制执行力，该市汽车砸窗盗窃案随之暴跌 87%，聚众哄抢商铺的现象也宣告绝迹。控制着洛杉矶大量影棚和核心地产的行业大亨维克多·科尔曼（Victor Coleman）对斯宾塞面授机宜：“当别人指责你毫无从政经验时，你就告诉他们，卢里市长当初也没有管理城市的经验。他所做的无非是进场并铁腕执法。如今他在旧金山的地产投资组合正在爆发式回暖，而洛杉矶却死气沉沉。”科尔曼强调，洛杉矶唯一需要做的，就是把现行法律落到实处。 斯宾塞引用一位知名警长的话指出：“只要你开始给罪犯戴上手铐，你看会有多少人主动溜之大吉。”他直言，如果政府允许罪犯和瘾君子把城市街道变成没有守卫的精神病院，混乱就必然蔓延。为此，斯宾塞抛出了自己上任后的具体行动方案： - 全城布告通牒：在全城张贴醒目标语，严禁当街裸体、当街吸毒、抢劫以及虐待焚烧动物，设立为期两到三周的通牒倒计时。 - 逐级施压清退：派专人逐街告知流浪者执法倒计时，明确释放“新市长已经就位”的信号，促使不法人员自行离境。 - 全面收紧执法：通牒期满后立即恢复无死角执法，全面清空街头违规帐篷营地。 - 引入疾控中心（CDC）：调动联邦 CDC 团队对流浪汉帐篷营地展开深度采样检测，清理并消灭滋生在排泄物与毒品垃圾中的“中世纪传染病”。 --- ### [38:23](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=2303s) 百亿富豪助阵与超级团队的组建蓝图 面对市长这一统领数万名市政雇员的庞大行政岗位，主持人提出质疑：斯宾塞此前从未管理过如此规模的官僚系统，在第一天迈入市政厅时，他究竟该如何组建团队并落实现实层面的运营治理？ 斯宾塞信心十足地表示，竞选洛杉矶市长最大的优势在于“整座城市的所有人都极度渴望拯救洛杉矶，期盼它重回世界第一的宝座”。他透露，自己目前每周安排密集的午餐、早午餐与晚宴，接触了大量杰出商业领袖，许多战绩赫赫的顶尖企业家甚至主动请缨，愿意暂停自己的商业公司，以“每年1美元”的象征性年薪加入市政团队。科技领域的顶尖专家向他建言，仅通过算法和技术优化，就能将洛杉矶迟缓低效的城市规划、建筑审批等官僚体系效率提升100倍。 斯宾塞坦率承认自己不曾管理过全美第二大城市，但他拥有绝对的谦逊（humility）去倾听行家的意见。他透露，仅在过去一周内，他就与大约 10 位准备重金投入洛杉矶重建的超级富豪进行了深度交流。斯宾塞的执政策略不是由外行瞎指挥，而是将运营过全球最大商业实体的顶级 CEO 与深谙市政运转逻辑的实务专家融合进执政班子。斯宾塞描绘了一幅宏大的未来愿景：一旦法律执行到位、官僚障碍被算法彻底瓦解，洛杉矶上空将布满重建施工的塔吊，资金与企业将大规模回流，重新将洛杉矶打造成资本充沛、经济繁荣的全球首屈一指的大都市。 ### [40:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=2400s) 执法优先与LAUSD教育乱象：巨额投入为何换来倒数成绩？ 面对外界质疑他缺乏市政管理经验、难以掌控洛杉矶高达150亿美元庞大预算的说法，斯宾塞·普拉特（Spencer Pratt）不以为然地反驳道，他正在会见并组建的顾问团队中，许多人掌管的资金规模高达500亿美元以上。为了防范来自现任市政体制的政治报复，他甚至已经秘密敲定了一位不能公开姓名的副市长人选。普拉特强调，竞选纲领中所有的构想与宏图，如果脱离了“严格执法”这一基石，全都只是空话。无论是现任市长凯伦·巴斯（Karen Bass）还是市议员尼西亚·拉曼（Nithya Raman），即便把全世界最顶尖的高管请来也无济于事，因为她们根本不敢执法。唯有将法律执行到位，让普通纳税人、父母和孩子们能够安心去公园、下馆子，整个城市的经济与创新机制才能重新运转。 谈及公共教育，主持人和普拉特摆出了一组令人瞠目结舌的矛盾数据：洛杉矶联合学区（LAUSD）平均在每名学生身上投入高达23,000美元，教师平均年薪达到101,000美元，两项指标均位列全美第一；然而该学区的教学成绩在加州所有学区中仅排在第170位，全学区仅有46%的学生英语达标、37%的学生数学达标。普拉特结合亲身经历痛陈体制的溃败：他的儿子此前在学区内声誉极佳的特许小学（Palisades Charter Elementary，简称 PALS）就读，本应是公立教育的最高水平，但校方却整天催着家长募捐买书、筹集教学软件费用、甚至凑钱聘请额外师资。 针对这一黑洞，普拉特提出了彻底审计与重构校园文化的方案。他主张市长办公室必须对学区、消防局、警察局等所有吞噬纳税人资金的机构展开全面审计，并建立公开透明的“极简仪表盘”（Cliff Notes level dashboards），追踪纳税人的每一分钱究竟流向了何处。此外，他痛批当前公立学校的意识形态偏向，指出许多家长因为学校废除宣誓效忠仪式（Pledge of Allegiance）、压制爱国主义而纷纷转入私立学校。他认为要打破所谓的“社会主义与共产主义陷阱”，就必须恢复美国传统荣光与自豪感，同时遏止公款挥霍。 - **LAUSD财政与成绩断层**：生均投入23,000美元、教师平均年薪101,000美元（全美最高），但在加州学区中仅列第170名；英语达标率仅46%，数学达标率仅37%。 - **体制采购浪费惊人**：普拉特在走访消防局时发现，市政采购体系中一扇门竟然报销25万美元，一台普通冰箱开销高达5万美元。 - **透明度承诺**：建立向全体市民公开的财政仪表盘，以极低门槛让公众实时监督每一笔税款开支与执行成果。 --- ### [43:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=2604s) 财务审计与30亿美元会展中心争议：从灌木丛中的尸体到“趣味沙皇” 普拉特分享了一位同样在野火中痛失家园的朋友提出的尖锐质问：“洛杉矶凭什么还要砸30亿美元去扩建那个愚蠢的会展中心？”普拉特讽刺地指出，就在不到一个月前，洛杉矶会展中心正门外的灌木丛里居然赫然躺着一具无人过问的尸体。把数十亿美元砸向门外横陈尸体的面子工程，却不肯花钱解决街头危机，在当前政府管理下简直是滑天下之大稽。 然而，普拉特的观点发生了一定转变。他并未一刀切地主张彻底叫停扩建，而是认为洛杉矶必须重回全球第一大都市的地位，未来的商贸繁荣必然需要会展中心。但关键在于“不要花纳税人的公帑”，而应通过公私合营（PPP）模式推进。普拉特自信地宣称，一旦自己上台清理掉街头肆虐的40个街区毒瘾“丧尸”群体，重振商业与餐馆业，洛杉矶将迎来巨大的经济反弹。 为了解决资金问题，普拉特抛出了一个极具个人风格的内幕：他已经秘密接洽了一位身价数十亿美元的匿名富豪。这位富豪曾出资3亿美元赞助纽约市的大型项目，如今承诺给普拉特提供5亿美元私人资金，并自愿担任洛杉矶的“趣味沙皇”（Fun Czar），专门负责让洛杉矶重焕活力。普拉特认为，如果引入这笔5亿美元的民间赞助将扩建项目打造成极具吸引力的“趣味会展中心”，不仅能大幅砍掉财政预算，还能让城市在不增加市民负担的前提下完成升级。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 会展中心重构方案 accDescr: 对比现任政府耗费公帑与普拉特公私合营引入民间资本的方案差异 subgraph Current["现任政府方案（凯伦·巴斯 / 尼西亚·拉曼）"] C1["耗资30亿美元纳税人公帑"] --> C2["门前灌木丛横陈尸体与毒品街区"] C2 --> C3["缺乏商贸活力与治安保障的死局"] end subgraph Pratt["普拉特重振方案（公私合营）"] P1["铁腕清理40个街区的街头毒品乱象"] --> P2["恢复城市治安与商业信心"] P3["引入匿名富豪5亿美元私人赞助"] --> P4["打造'趣味会展中心'并削减市政成本"] P2 & P4 --> P5["吸引全球商贸与游客，实现良性盈利"] end ``` --- ### [46:04](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=2764s) 工会博弈、一线警察消防员的真实民意与好莱坞的衰落 当被问及未获得各大工会支持如何胜选时，普拉特自信地表示自己根本不需要依赖工会高层的政治背书。他直言工会头目目前全都抱团支持现任市长凯伦·巴斯，但他赢得了更为广泛的基本盘——全洛杉矶的母亲们与动物保护爱好者。从圣费尔南多谷、圣佩德罗，到中南部、东洛杉矶和博伊尔高地，所有母亲最真实的感受就是城市极度不安全。这种对于失控治安的恐惧远超官方粉饰的犯罪数据，足以让他在6月2日的初选中以超过51%的得票率直接胜出，根本无需拖入11月决选。 关于胜选后如何与工会打交道，普拉特设计了务实的对话策略。他表示会在副市长安排下与工会领袖逐一闭门会谈，开诚布公地讲明现状：“我支持你们获得应有的福利，但在当前财政轨迹下，大家必须先勒紧裤腰带度过紧缩期。”他承诺将通过彻查被非政府组织（NGO）洗劫和浪费的数十亿美元流浪汉救济款，重新充实财政金库。他坚决反对在私营部门毫无起色的情况下，单纯为了政客买票而给特定工会单方面涨薪10%，强调薪酬调整必须建立在独立预算监督与收支平衡之上。 普拉特特别为一线警察与消防人员鸣不平。外界常被媒体报道的高昂加班费所误导，殊不知那是因为市政招募机制严重滞后，导致一线人员不得不超负荷连轴转32天，付出了牺牲家庭健康的沉重代价。普拉特透露，洛杉矶消防局（LAFD）和洛杉矶警察局（LAPD）的基层人员私底下通过短信和电话疯狂支持他，只是慑于高层的报复而不敢公开表态。令他痛心的是，由于治安恶化与生活成本飙升，目前高达60%的洛杉矶消防员选择举家迁出加州，上班时才坐飞机通勤进城。这不仅流失了本应留在本地的税收，更暴露了体制的荒谬。在访谈尾声，话题转向了支撑洛杉矶经济命脉的影视产业：由于政策与环境恶化，曾经辉煌的好莱坞产业已被掏空殆尽，大量本地从业者陷入生存困境。 - **选举信心**：普拉特坚称凭借对母亲群体和治安诉求的精准把握，自己将在6月2日初选斩获51%选票直接当选。 - **加班费真相**：一线执法与消防人员的天价加班费源于严重的岗位空缺与招聘停滞，基层不得不承受非人的连轴转高压工作。 - **消防员飞地化**：约60%的LAFD一线消防员因城市治安恶劣且生活昂贵而选择搬离加州，日常依靠乘飞机通勤上班。 - **支柱产业沦陷**：好莱坞影视工业在过去一二十年间遭遇毁灭性流失，大量中产就业岗位化为乌有，本地商业生态严重凋敝。 ### [50:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=3000s) 拯救好莱坞：向独立制作倾斜与夺回流失的工作岗位 针对好莱坞是否在人工智能（AI）、YouTube、流媒体及独立制作的冲击下名存实亡，以及洛杉矶是否还能保住影视产业这一问题，Spencer Pratt 分享了自己早年的经历与独特的应对思路。他回顾道，自己 20 岁时就以史上最年轻执行制片人的身份将首部真人秀卖给了福斯（Fox），买家正是时任新闻集团（News Corp）联席主席的 Peter Chernin，当时合作的还有传奇音乐制作人 David Foster。几周前，Pratt 特意致电 Chernin 请教如何拯救洛杉矶的影视业。Chernin 直言不讳地告诉他，作为市长，无权直接改变全州层面的宏观产业税收政策（这属于加州州长的管辖范畴），但市长完全有能力通过全力扶持独立电影人、独立制作团队与独立艺术家来重振就业。 Pratt 认为，大制片厂和流媒体往往采取“成本加成 10%”（cost-plus 10%）的严苛结算模式，许多创作者单干的收益反而更好。他批评现任市长 Karen Bass 只会在格里菲斯天文台（Griffith Observatory）的拍摄许可费从 7 万美元降至 3 万美元这种细枝末节上邀功。Pratt 设想由市政府直接协助独立制作落地：封闭整个街区供剧组拍摄，让剧组的餐饮消费支持本地餐馆，盘活本地闲置资源，彻底取消高昂的审批与清关费用。针对许多制片人向他反映在洛杉矶街头拍戏甚至需要向当地帮派交“保护费”的恶劣治安现状，他保证将提供最高级别的治安保障，让独立团队无需担心器材被盗。 在着力扶持独立创作者的同时，Pratt 也表达了与巨头对话的意愿。他已主动联络 David Ellison 以及 Netflix 的 Ted Sarandos 等行业领袖。他誓言要与下一任加州州长正面对抗，推动取消全州影视税收抵免的上限（uncapped tax incentives），特别是后期制作（post-production）环节的免税额度，绝不能再让本地项目和就业流失到英国或加拿大。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: Spencer Pratt 重振好莱坞影视业的双轨战略 accDescr: 流程图展示了市长层面的独立制作赋能与州长层面的大制片厂税收政策改革 subgraph Municipal["市长可控层面：独立影视（Indies）赋能"] A["降低拍摄门槛"] --> A1["减免拍摄与场地审批费用"] B["治安护航"] --> B1["清理街头帮派与犯罪隐患<br/>保护昂贵器材与剧组安全"] C["本地经济协同"] --> C1["封锁街区拍摄并联动周边餐馆供餐"] end subgraph State["州级博弈层面：大制片厂回流"] D["游说下任加州州长"] --> D1["取消影视制作税收抵免上限"] D --> D2["取消后期制作（Post-Production）退税限制"] D1 & D2 --> E["遏制剧组外流加拿大与英国<br/>重新盘活洛杉矶空置片场"] end ``` ### [53:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=3210s) 公共交通的荒诞现实与先安全后投资的逻辑 谈及洛杉矶的公共交通与基建浪费，Pratt 提到自己当天刚特意去了刚开通的地铁 D 线（紫线延伸线），目的就是去“钓鱼执法”（troll），看看那些盲目支持公共交通的 YIMBY 人群会作何反应。他直言，公共交通蓝图固然美好，但现实却是车厢里充斥着人类排泄物和神志不清的吸毒者。他戏称自己如今成了洛杉矶市民的“3-1-1 举报热线”，手机里每天收到无数市民发来的现场照片与视频，内容充斥着赤身裸体的瘾君子和芬太尼吸食者，“恶心到连手机都不想打开”。 Pratt 尖锐指出，如果治安不解决，轻轨即使修到了月球，家长也不可能带着孩子去坐。同样，YIMBY 团体鼓吹的自行车道在现实中也毫无安全可言，“你就算给我钱我都不敢骑，生怕旁边冲出一个丧尸般的瘾君子拿撬棍砸我的头”。在资金效率上，他列举了一组悬殊的数据：目前大都会交通局（Metro）占用了大约 15% 的城市预算，但实际乘坐率仅有 5% 左右。他主张必须先严厉执法，杜绝一切跳过闸机逃票的行为，确保只有付费乘客才能进站乘车，唯有环境重回安全，才能把乘坐率提高到 15%，实现收支合理。 在规划方面，Pratt 提出彻底清理市中心（DTLA）近 40 个街区内长期被流民焚烧、频繁耗费消防资源的废弃建筑群。他透露一位拥有 12 人顶级团队的世界知名建筑师曾带着完整的重建设计面见州长 Gavin Newsom 和市长 Karen Bass，却未获理睬。Pratt 计划引入这类顶尖力量，告别如加州参议院 SB 79 提案所催生的千篇一律、宛如监狱般的高密度丑陋建筑，复兴典雅的装饰艺术（Art Deco）风格。他开玩笑地提议把洛杉矶市中心打造成真正的威尼斯风格水城运河，甚至可以让 YIMBY 们的空中自行车专用隧道横穿其间。 - 洛杉矶 Metro 占用全市民用预算约 15%，实际市民使用率仅在 5% 上下。 - Pratt 坚持“先安全再基建”的原则，要求全面封闭闸机、强制严控逃票，通过恢复安全感来拉动出行人数。 - 坚决反对 SB 79 框架下的高密度丑陋建筑，主张压缩过去长达 8 年的漫长建筑审批周期，重新吸引离谱流失的优秀建筑师回流。 ### [56:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=3385s) 审批地狱与引入 AI：重塑洛杉矶建筑安全局 对于主持人关于市长是否有法定权限绕过官僚机构、破除严苛建筑审批壁垒的追问，Pratt 给出了非常具体的应对方案。他透露，当天中午就有一位在洛杉矶私人建筑领域达到顶级水准的专业人士主动请缨，愿意出任洛杉矶建筑与安全局（LADBS）局长。由于民营企业常年在一线与市政官僚机构周旋，最清楚审批流程的所有死结和漏洞。Pratt 强调，他的建队哲学是“在各个岗位上安插洛杉矶最顶尖的专业人士，把他们履历公开在官网上，由专业的人去解决专业的事”。 他以周一会见的可负担住房开发商 Carlos 为例：在市长 Karen Bass 声称将审批提速至 6 个月的所谓“新政”下，Carlos 的审批流程实际上已被卡了整整两年半。现行的税收补贴机制甚至在诱导开发商以每平方英尺 750 美元的高昂成本去建造如同监牢般的狭小单元（“cells”），只为了塞进更多人头来套取补贴；而 Carlos 完全有能力以每平方英尺 250 美元的超低成本，建造出体面、舒适的两居室正常住宅。Pratt 自己也经历过这种荒诞效率——他的气流露营车（Airstream）仅仅是从街对面的电线杆拉一根电线，洛杉矶水电局（LADWP）居然折腾了数周之久。 在技术解决方案上，Pratt 主张全面引入 AI 审批系统。他提到此前 Rick Caruso 曾与 Steadfast 等机构联合出资研发的 AI 建筑审批程序，该系统能秒速审读设计图纸并依据区划法规实现自动批准（Auto-approved）。而现实中的市政审批却如同荒诞喜剧：现场检查员常常因为某三项检查没看全，或者漏勾了一个方框，就直接扔下一句“下次再约”扬长而去；市政审批部门里更是一片空巢，公务员们一周只来三天甚至长期远程居家，市民必须提前预约才能办事。针对外界对他缺乏政务经验的质疑，Pratt 回应道，优秀的商业领袖从来不需要懂所有细节，他的职责是确立“洛杉矶重回第一”的目标，并起用最拔尖的人才将现任 LADWP 首席执行官 Janisse Quiñones 这类尸位素餐的官僚彻底替换。 ### [01:00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=3600s) 重建洛杉矶的管理与野心：吸纳全美顶尖人才，超越硅谷成为全球科技中心 斯宾塞·普拉特（Spencer Pratt）对洛杉矶市政管理层彻底丧失了信任。他特别提到洛杉矶水电局（LADWP）的前负责人：在明知即将迎来历史性干旱火灾季的情况下，该官员不仅抽干了两个水库的水，且没有任何应急预案、备用水源或水车支援，而其年薪却高达 75 万美元外加丰厚福利。斯宾塞认为，美国各地都有在运转良好的城市中高效管理水务与电网的专业人才。他的方案非常简单直接：走出去主动招揽这些实干家，提供优渥待遇、安全干净的环境以及优质居所，让他们接管洛杉矶的关键部门。斯宾塞直言，洛杉矶得天独厚，全世界的人依然渴望来到这里，根本不需要降低标准去凑合。 谈到经济与科技前景时，斯宾塞毫不客气地向旧金山湾区发起挑战。他表示，世界各地的科技创业者都在向他表达入驻洛杉矶的意愿；洛杉矶不仅应当超越旧金山或马林县（Marin County），更应该成为“全球的硅谷”与世界科技中心。他戏谑地调侃，北加州固然有其优势，但没有洛杉矶这样迷人的海滩；在未来的洛杉矶，科技从业者不仅能拥有更大空间去制造机器人、无人机和创办硬核科技公司，还能真正享受到“在没有污水和排泄物的海水里畅快游泳”的加州梦。 - **薪酬与失职对比**：水利部门高官在干旱野火季抽干两座关键水库，无任何预案与后备水源，却坐拥 75 万美元年薪及高额福利。 - **顶尖人才引进战略**：洛杉矶无需内部迁就，直接从全美运转优秀的城市高薪挖角基建、水利与电力管理能手。 - **科技中心定位**：力争取代旧金山湾区，将机器人、无人机研发等硬科技产业引入洛杉矶，依托气候与空间优势打造真正的全球科技中心。 --- ### [01:02:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=3735s) 终结审批噩梦：小商业的生死困境、自动审批制与环卫部门的整顿 主持人谈到自己在圣费尔南多谷（San Fernando Valley）长大的经历，文图拉大道（Ventura Boulevard）两侧遍布着亚美尼亚裔、波斯裔和西语裔等移民家庭经营了两三代的小商铺。洛杉矶本质上不是一座靠巨型跨国公司支撑的城市，小商业才是其经济命脉。然而，如今开设一家美甲店、咖啡馆或普通杂货铺，繁琐的法规和漫长的审批流程正将创业者逼入绝境。斯宾塞分享了威尼斯区（Venice）一个真实案例：朋友的邻居盘下了当地一家历史悠久的社区小杂货店（bodega），既不卖酒也不卖熟食，仅仅做最基础的零售，却在审批迷宫里被折腾了整整一年，反复因各种无理的新规要求整改，已经濒临放弃。 斯宾塞指出，无论是交通还是环卫系统，当前整个官僚机制最大的毒瘤就是“毫无问责制”——无论工作成败，官员和员工都旱涝保收。他提到有人向他质疑为何负责影视拍摄许可的 FilmLA 竟然是一家非营利机构，而原本它应通过盈利动机来积极吸引剧组制作。斯宾塞回忆自己遇到了民间清洁组织 Clean LA 的创始人胡安（Juan）——一位来自厄瓜多尔的移民。胡安目睹市政垃圾车在路上清理垃圾时，机械臂抓起垃圾又沿街抛洒得如同网络搞笑视频（meme），环卫工人甚至直接在车里睡觉，毫无责任心。胡安对斯宾塞说，自己来自第三世界国家，家乡都比现在的洛杉矶干净漂亮，他愿意以 5 亿美元的预算接管目前耗费纳税人 10 亿美元却毫无成效的市政环卫系统，单此一项就能为纳税人省下整整 5 亿美元。 针对繁文缛节，斯宾塞主张推行“满足标准即自动盖章通过”（auto-stamp / green light）的极简模式，停止让基层官僚无休止地拖延。他设想在未来的八年里，洛杉矶的天际线应当被密密麻麻的施工塔吊占据，“甚至多到让人觉得吵闹的程度”，展现出如同中国在两周内建成一座大桥般的建设速度，而不是像现在这样让孩子们连施工起重机长什么样都没见过。 ```mermaid flowchart TD accTitle: 洛杉矶小商业审批改革对比流程 accDescr: 对比传统官僚审批迷宫与斯宾塞倡导的自动化极简审批机制 subgraph Current["现行官僚泥潭 (高成本·无问责)"] A["提交申请 (杂货店/咖啡馆)"] --> B["繁琐层层审查与随意改动"] B --> C["部门无问责·周期长达1年以上"] C --> D["商户濒临放弃·活力被扼杀"] end subgraph Proposed["改革愿景 (自动审批·重振活力)"] E["明确合规客观标准"] --> F["系统自动盖章 (Auto-Greenlight)"] F --> G["快速破土动工·重现塔吊林立"] G --> H["街区商业繁荣·资本回流"] end ``` --- ### [01:05:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=3900s) 城市存亡之战：野火应急基建、废除 ULA 豪宅税与对抗极左 DSA 当被问及如果其他两位候选人当选洛杉矶会怎样时，斯宾塞坦言那意味着彻底的终结，自己将被迫举家搬迁到本顿维尔（Bentonville）等外地城市，因为现在的洛杉矶已经不适合让孩子成长。在竞选辩论中，对手们依然在空谈“增加避难床位”，完全无视整座城市正陷入噩梦：路灯损坏无人修缮、道路坑洼一年不补并频繁扎破市民轮胎、打 311 报修系统无人受理、911 报警缺乏足够的警力出警、消防员极度匮乏。他警告道，如果不采取果断行动，未来贝莱尔（Bel Air）、曼德维尔峡谷（Mandeville Canyon）、桑兰（Sunland）和图洪加（Tujunga）必将重蹈覆辙被野火吞噬。 斯宾塞重申了自己的野火应急防御体系： - **密集取水点网络**：在各社区设立相隔仅一英里的直升机取水点（dip sites），并合法接入私人业主的游泳池作为后备水源。 - **空中消防力量升级**：增派洛杉矶县使用的奇努克（Chinook）重型直升机，与市消防局及加州林业消防局（Cal Fire）的“火鹰”（Firehawk）直升机协同巡航作战。 - **修复保险生态**：向各大保险公司证明洛杉矶具备可靠的灭火防灾模型，促使各大保险公司重返洛杉矶与加州市场。 在政策与政治层面，斯宾塞誓言要彻底废除被他斥为具有共产主义色彩的 ULA 提案（豪宅税），释放被冻结的房地产交易与房屋开发建设。他还要坚决打击租霸勒索房东 5 万美元“搬家费”（cash for keys）后转头祸害下一个房东的恶性闭环，并彻底整顿被毒贩和犯罪分子通过欺诈手段滥用的 Section 8 住房补贴，确保退伍军人和真正有需要的家庭获得援助。斯宾塞将这场竞选比作电影《独立日》中外星人入侵般的生死战，痛批渗透进市议会的“美国民主社会主义者”（DSA）成员。他强调这群极左分子绝非传统民主党人，而是躲在下水道里的“施莱德与大脚帮”（Shredder and company），正在用极权式的社会主义意识形态摧毁洛杉矶这一自由堡垒。 --- ### [01:08:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=4098s) 八年市长愿景：严正执法、重振好莱坞与为家人而战的决心 访谈进入尾声，主持人让斯宾塞畅想八年两届市长任期结束时的场景：当他与儿子们坐在一起，儿子问他“爸爸，当年你是怎么拯救洛杉矶的”，他会如何作答？斯宾塞深情地表示，他的回答只有一句话：“感谢上帝，市民们投票选择了法律；而你们的父亲执行了现有的法律。” 斯宾塞强调，治理城市根本不需要凭空捏造什么空中楼阁般的乌托邦理论，只需回归常识，把城市治安搞好，资本自然会涌入，商业自然会繁荣，家庭也敢于重新走进公园和沙滩，不再终日生活在恐惧中。他愤怒地控诉当前城市管理者的邪恶与不作为：普通纳税人交完税后几乎没有多余积蓄，政府却在街头彻底抛弃了他们；家长们不得不让后座的孩子全程死死盯着 iPad，只为了不让他们透过车窗看到街头吸食冰毒后公然发生性行为的溃烂景象；而那些没有车的家庭，甚至每天不得不带着年幼的孩子从遍布针头与污秽的高架桥下穿行上学。八年后，他要骄傲地告诉儿子们，正是因为老老实实恢复了法治，资本才全面回归，企业繁荣，创造了大量就业；好莱坞的独立艺术家也重新获得了灵感与安全感，拍出了十年来最优秀的电影。 斯宾塞坦言，自己踏上政治舞台绝非贪恋权位，而是一场向邪恶宣战的救赎之旅。正是这场火灾烧毁了他的家，随后又烧毁了他母亲的家，让他连续 18 个月每天听着母亲痛苦抽泣的声音。他深爱这座城市，甚至过去连去科罗拉多探望妻子的娘家都舍不得离开洛杉矶，而他的竞争对手们根本不理解也不热爱这片土地。在节目的最后，斯宾塞坚定地重申了自己的信条：“告诉他们，儿子，靠的就是法律。”随后在主持人的致谢声中，以全情投入（All In）的姿态为整场对话画上了充满火药味与理想主义色彩的句号。 ## Notable quotes > [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=0s) 我真希望那是两三个小时的辩论，因为现任政府那些彻底失败的烂摊子，我们甚至都没来得及触及皮毛。 — 斯宾塞·普拉特 > [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=0s) 斯宾塞，因为我手里永远握着真相。 — 彼得（律师） > [05:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=300s) 我们手头没有任何可用资源。 — 消防调度员 > [10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=600s) 那里没有紧急救援人员可以前往。 — 911接线员 > [16:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=990s) 你去对付巴斯。 — 里克·卡鲁索 > [30:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=1800s) 我可没有去和那些后来炸毁国会大厦的恐怖分子一起接受训练。 — 斯宾塞·普拉特 > [30:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=1800s) 我为我的家人拼尽了一切，我绝不允许我的孩子们在洛杉矶忍受社会主义！我太清楚那会导致什么后果了。 — 拉法（Rafa） > [35:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=2100s) 在洛杉矶，只要你老老实实交税，无论你的种族、性别或自我认同是什么，你都会感到出离愤怒！ — 斯宾塞·普拉特 > [35:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=2100s) 只要你开始给罪犯戴上手铐，你看会有多少人主动溜之大吉。 — 斯宾塞·普拉特引述警长 > [53:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=3210s) 你就算给我钱我都不敢骑，生怕旁边冲出一个丧尸般的瘾君子拿撬棍砸我的头。 — 斯宾塞·普拉特 > [01:08:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=4098s) 感谢上帝，市民们投票选择了法律；而你们的父亲执行了现有的法律。 — 斯宾塞·普拉特 > [01:08:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg&t=4098s) 告诉他们，儿子，靠的就是法律。 — 斯宾塞·普拉特 ## Mentioned Spencer Pratt (斯宾塞·普拉特), All-In Podcast, Axon.ai, AppLovin, Taylor Swift (霉霉), Heidi Montag (海蒂·蒙塔格), Karen Bass (凯伦·巴斯), Nithya Raman (尼西亚·拉曼), Janisse Quiñones (贾妮斯·基尼奥内斯), Bobby Garcia (鲍比·加西亚), Gavin Newsom (加文·纽森), Rick Caruso (里克·卡鲁索), John Adams (约翰·亚当斯), Thomas Jefferson (托马斯·杰斐逊), Cincinnatus (辛辛纳图斯), Matt Hess (马特·赫斯), Daniel Lurie (丹尼尔·卢里), Victor Coleman (维克多·科尔曼), Peter Chernin (彼得·切宁), David Foster (大卫·福斯特), David Ellison (大卫·埃里森), Ted Sarandos (泰德·萨兰多斯), LADWP (洛杉矶水电局), LAFD (洛杉矶消防局), LAPD (洛杉矶警察局), LAUSD (洛杉矶联合学区), LADBS (洛杉矶建筑与安全局), Metro (大都会交通局), FilmLA, Clean LA, Weingart Center (韦恩加特中心), Farmers Insurance, California Fair Plan, Rand Corporation (兰德公司), FireAid, Project Homekey (家匙计划), Democratic Socialists of America (DSA / 美国民主社会主义者), Venceremos Brigade (文塞雷莫斯旅), CDC (美国疾病控制与预防中心), IRS (美国国家税务局), Palisades Fire (帕利塞兹大火), Camp Fire (天堂镇营火), Getty Fire (盖蒂山火), Bel Air Fire (贝尔艾尔火灾), Mandeville Canyon Fire (曼德维尔峡谷火灾), SB 79 提案, ULA 提案 (豪宅税), Section 8 住房补贴, Chinook (奇努克直升机), Firehawk (火鹰直升机), Airstream (清风房车) ## Video description (0:00) Spencer Pratt vs. the Machine (3:01) Inside the Palisades Fire: Drained Reservoirs, No Sirens & Watching His House Burn on His Phone (14:03) Why He's Running for Mayor: FireAid's $100M Scandal & the NGO Corruption Nobody Talks About (28:10) Karen Bass at 20% & the Real State of Los Angeles: Crime, Homelessness & a City in Free Fall (38:23) Spencer's Plan to Fix LA: Enforcing Laws, Auditing Everyone & the Billionaires Ready to Rebuild (52:22) Hollywood, LAUSD & Small Business: What It Actually Takes to Make LA #1 Again (56:25) The Permitting Nightmare Killing Small Business & How AI Fixes It Overnight (1:04:22) His 8-Year Vision Thanks to our partner Axon.ai for making this possible. Axon.ai — AppLovin's AI advertising platform reaches over a billion daily active users across mobile games. Full-screen video ads with a 35-second median watch time. Advertisers are profitably spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a day and advertiser access is still in closed beta. The window is open at https://axon.ai/allin Follow Spencer: https://x.com/spencerpratt Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/spencerpratt/status/2049497051793412557 #allin #tech #news [Source](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpjy3TC8Pg)

[0:00] 斯宾塞·普拉特: 我真希望那是两三个小时的辩论，因为现任政府那些彻底失败的烂摊子，我们甚至都没来得及触及皮毛。 [0:00] 彼得（律师）: 斯宾塞，因为我手里永远握着真相。 [5:00] 消防调度员: 我们手头没有任何可用资源。 [10:00] 911接线员: 那里没有紧急救援人员可以前往。 [16:30] 里克·卡鲁索: 你去对付巴斯。 [30:00] 斯宾塞·普拉特: 我可没有去和那些后来炸毁国会大厦的恐怖分子一起接受训练。 [30:00] 拉法（Rafa）: 我为我的家人拼尽了一切，我绝不允许我的孩子们在洛杉矶忍受社会主义！我太清楚那会导致什么后果了。 [35:00] 斯宾塞·普拉特: 在洛杉矶，只要你老老实实交税，无论你的种族、性别或自我认同是什么，你都会感到出离愤怒！ [35:00] 斯宾塞·普拉特引述警长: 只要你开始给罪犯戴上手铐，你看会有多少人主动溜之大吉。 [53:30] 斯宾塞·普拉特: 你就算给我钱我都不敢骑，生怕旁边冲出一个丧尸般的瘾君子拿撬棍砸我的头。 [68:18] 斯宾塞·普拉特: 感谢上帝，市民们投票选择了法律；而你们的父亲执行了现有的法律。 [68:18] 斯宾塞·普拉特: 告诉他们，儿子，靠的就是法律。

[15:00] Spencer Pratt: I didn't run to be a politician. I ran because I experienced what city leadership failure at the ultimate level is. That's why I stepped up... I'm the citizen. I'm the angry taxpayer. [20:00] Spencer Pratt: NGOs that are stealing all of our tax money... giving these people pipes, giving them needles, giving them the Narcan, letting them OD 14 times a night... there's no requirement to house people. [25:00] Spencer Pratt: First week in office, you bring all of them in. We audit every NGO, every document that hasn't been shredded... I have more faith in my criminal investigation team. [35:00] Spencer Pratt: Once you start putting handcuffs on people, watch how many people leave. [50:00] Spencer Pratt: Who cares how many lines that Metro connects to? It could connect to the moon right now. But if drug addicts are smoking fentanyl next to your kid, you're not going to the moon on it. [65:00] Spencer Pratt: I'm going to put these dip sites a mile from everyone... They're going to connect to private owners' swimming pools. I'm going to work with the insurance companies so we can bring insurance back to California... because we're going to show them the model.

[0:00] Spencer Pratt, welcome to the All In Podcast. Thank you for having me. You had an unbelievable debate performance the other night. I have so many friends that were texting and People obviously were tweeting about it. Let's start with that. How are you feeling after the debate? I just wish it had been like two hours or three hours because the list of their failures that we didn't even get to touch on. It's unbelievable. So it was the most fun I've had in years because what people don't realize. is they're pathological liars. So when somebody gets to be on the stage with only facts and the truth, that's why there's this incredible response. Because everybody that always watches these lying politicians, they know they're lying and nobody gets to yell, they're lying. But it was very hard to be respectful because all the lovely Democrat moms that love me, that want to keep supporting me, they asked me to please stay calm, cool, and collected. So the whole time I was doing my best which is, If I hadn't been tasked with that mission, I would have been like, liar, liar. A lot of people said they weren't expecting such a great performance. Like you were so well prepped, so well versed on a lot of the facts on the actions you were going to take. How did you get ready? for the debate. Did you do work to Get after this. Well, thankfully... People argue with me all day long in every single media hit that I've done for months because they don't want me to get into the machine. So every interview I do, unlike these politicians, it's opposition. It's arguing, arguing, arguing. When these, you know, Mayor Bass or Councilman Rahman talk to the media, they can just lie. And then the media people go, oh, thank you. Thank you, Mayor Bass. Thank you, Councilman. If I say anything, I got to have who was there, what they were wearing, what they have for breakfast. to have my information so fact-based. and be bulletproof to beat this machine that I debate, all I do is debate people all day long. You're held to a higher standard. Exactly. You're challenged all day. And all I live in is facts and the truth. And so I called my lawyer who's representing me in the case against the city and the state, and LA DWP, one of the most famous lawyers in the world. I said, "Peter, how do you stay so calm when you're arguing with these liars?" And he said, "Spencer. I always have the truth. I was like, "Ooh." I was like, "Okay, I got that." Yeah, so that was a great just message I took into that. Can we, for people that don't know your story, and I want to just give you a couple of minutes to tell it, let's go back to the fires. Where were you? And where was your family, your wife, your kids? Where were you guys when these fires kicked off? And How did you end up evacuating and what was that evening like? Well, let's even rewind before the fires. It just shows you that our emergency situation is not the level it needs to be because I didn't even know that there was this crazy wind weather event. My son had pneumonia, so I was up every night checking his temperature, and I'm on my phone a lot. I'm a phone person, and I didn't even know that this was extra dangerous, dry weather. So that just shows you, if you rewind, we weren't even informed at the level Clearly, we should have been. So the morning of January 7th, I was doing my normal routine, making my espresso, about to dance to Taylor Swift, Look What You Made Me Do on Snapchat, which I've done since the Reputation album dropped. And all of a sudden, I see our nanny running down the street. She comes in with our two-year-old at the time. She's like, the workers of the street said there's a fire on the hill. Again, this is not crazy. Mayor Bassak's like, we never knew, but we're well aware fires happen. There had just been the Getty fire that everyone ran out of their houses. I grew up in LA. I've been through the fires. They've been going on for 30 years. So three weeks before, all my friends fought a fire in Malibu. So I was even planning on starting my own fire brigade like my friends had. And I was talking to Heidi, like, "We need to get a hose. We need to get a truck." And so I was well aware of fires, no matter what anybody says. This isn't a shock. We also know about Santa Ana winds. So I run up the hill where we hike every day for the last nine years, and I see a smoke you know, coming from like the Highlands area, which is where Lachman, which we now know the fire was really from seven days earlier, and it had been smoldering for a week. And I see the smoke. I FaceTimed my wife, I was like, "Yeah, maybe pack, go down to my parents' house." just to be safe because my parents [5:00] My parents live in the Palisades. I grew up in the Palisades. It's the opposite side of where we are. We're at the top of the hill next to the state park, there by the bluffs next to the ocean. you would think that would be safe. So she loads up just diapers, kids clothes and goes to my mom's house. I stay up there, you know, FaceTiming every local what's going on. Very confident because I assume I've been paying. I don't have any money because all my money goes to taxes. So I assume all these tax money is firefighters are coming. Got to be going somewhere. It's going somewhere. You know, I was very naive. And I also live next door again in the debate when Mayor Bass was like, Only one reservoir that was empty. Ma'am, Mayor Bass, I live next to the one you don't know existed, the Palisades Reservoir, five million gallons next door to my house that the fire department would do almost everything Not weekly, but bi-weekly drills. They would connect up there. They would make me move cars if they needed to to bring the hoses. I was always saying to my wife, well, this is annoying, but gosh, we're set. They have a thing where the helicopter could dip in there. Not the San Yanez Reservoir that she was referencing that she lied about and said was for drinking water, which obviously, if you Google LA Times, will show you when it was made, it was for wildfire protection. That's why it has cisterns. sites because it's for wildfire. So I was very confident. I have a video of myself filming, can't wait till the helicopters get here. Not realizing that they drain that, Janice Quinonez, the LADW, drain that reservoir in June of 2024. I must have been out at Airwond when they were emptying it or whatever. I was very confident. In 2025, in Pacific Palisades, this pays probably almost, what, a quarter of the taxes for the whole city, I would guess at this point. They're not letting the entire town burn to the ground. So I didn't pack anything. I didn't, you know, prepare for a house to burn down. I called the fire department directly because I have their number. I said, hey, we just see one truck up here because, you know, if the fire comes around, there's just this one place of dead brush. and hit all these houses. And he said, we have no assets available. Whoa, that's scary. So then my dad comes up, you know, and we got the hose and he's hosing a hillside. And finally, I'm like, dad, let's get out of here. You know, firefighters are probably coming. And your wife and kids are gone at this point? They're at my dad's house, which... Now the fires come from Temescal Canyon and it's crossed over. So my older sister calls, she's like, "What are your kids doing there? They better get out of there." I'm like, "What is happening?" "This is insane, it's like a bad movie." And I never heard any sirens. People, like real locals will tell you, if you talk to me, there was no sirens. - Yeah, I've heard this from a lot of friends in the Paladin. - So that was the, if I had heard sirens, I would have started packing things, Maybe stayed, but you don't feel scared if you don't hear sirens. There's no sheriffs or LAPD or any emergency vehicles coming up on the street. You know, everybody get out of the house. You know, like in a movie. There was no movie stuff. And, you know, so you always think everything's like a movie. Nothing was like a movie. So then I stay till the fire comes down the hill at five, six o'clock at night again when she was talking about this wind. "Mary Bass, I'm standing at the top of the Palisades. "I connect to the state park. There was no scary winds. It did not go past 40 miles per hour, and it's now been... Even CBS did a great debunk post yesterday, CBS News, with a journalist that was up there that I was correct and I wasn't lying in the debate. And there were planes flying. The fire just moved. Yeah. It moved. It was windy, but it wasn't. So I talked to the Chief Bobby Garcia at the US Forest Service about what he thought went sideways the day of. We don't know because the after action report has been edited multiple times by Mayor Bass, which she denies, but the LA Times stands by their reporting. And he said the initial fire. Wasn't made perfect. Skinny you're supposed to attack the fire on both sides and that did not happen because ready for this You know a mayor bass brought up like oh there was no planes No mayor bass you never called in fixed air wing support. She never did you know why she was in Africa? She was in Africa, you know who was supposed to do it or deputy mayor, but he was on house arrest So la city never even called in fixed air wing support to drop water. Thankfully la County service, but that's how out of the loop Mayor Bass was. So when did you find out your house was gone? I watched it burn on My first on my security, I watched my son's bed burn in the shape of a heart, which is the most spiritual, critical [10:00] ...like shape of a heart coming through the bottom of his bed, and then I watched each room until... You're watching on the cameras. ...on my phone in gridlock traffic on... like where the 405, like where the 10 goes to the 405, that one ramp, I'm just stuck in traffic watching it. But thank God as I'm watching it, I can't reach my dad, who I'm thinking is dying trying to save his house on the bluffs and I'm calling 911. I've been trying to get these audio calls to just post the level and they say they don't have them. But I'm calling 911 to find out if my dad is okay if he tripped. So even though I'm watching my house burn down, I can't reach my dad. So that's taking away the material I'm like, my dad cared more to me than my house burning. So I get on 911, they're like, what's the address? Like, oh, no emergency personnel can go there. My dad lives on the Bluffs. There's like- - So you're like losing your mind at that point. - There's 12 ways to get to my parents' house. This idea that there's no emergency personnel, and I'm telling them my dad could be burning up. So these 12 people that did burn alive, I know firsthand if one of their family members or relatives or neighbors was calling 911, they were told no emergency personnel can go help them. So thank God my dad obviously lived, and he got out, and I was like, "Dad, could you get out?" He said, "Yeah, it was a trail vault. "You could drive anywhere." So they didn't even-- - Brittle. - So in the aftermath, This hits you, must have hollowed you, wrecked you. How was the next couple of weeks kind of trying to put everything back together? And at what point were you like, man... I'm going to try and figure this out? Was it an immediate call to action for you or was there a period of time there where you were trying to put everything together. So my wife and I, when we were very successful in 2009, we spent millions of dollars on her pop music album with all the most famous music producers and writers in the world. But we didn't have the money to promote it. It's just, nobody ever heard it. But we did that. The 15-year anniversary of that album happened to be January 10th. The house burned down January 7th. So when I have zero money now because everything I ever put into was in this house for my sons, everything I own was in this house. Thank you. i'm like oh my god we have no money we're done i'm getting emails because january 10th is this anniversary date 15 years of her album so i go on tick tock live and i say anybody please you know i have no money right now our house just burned down please stream my wife's album buy it and thank god for the planet earth getting behind me i think maybe 12 countries put it number one Went to number one on billboard charts. So that was taking me out of the the dark but this trauma because I'm focusing on Right away pivoting into like we're gonna rebuild and I was naive to think streaming music you can get a house back You know, thank God. I didn't make like a hundred fifty thousand dollars, but this was 2006 we would have made millions of dollars. So it took my mind off it obviously my wife is trying to get our kids into new schools she's not even connecting to this. This is so positive, honey. Everyone's supporting you. So when that wears down, I realize, oh my God, this is not enough money to build anything. We were stuck with California Fair Plan because we were dropped by farmers after paying for eight years and we have no money to rebuild. And I start questioning like, why did our house burn down? It shouldn't have burned down. And I call up my friend who I just was at a groomsman in his wedding and his dad had Thank you. I'm pretty sure it was Camp Fire at Paradise, and he beat Edison. So I call him, I was like, can you represent me? I want to sue the city. I want to sue the state. I want to sue LADWB. So you're a fighter. You go after it. I'm just done. Case on. Fast forward a little bit. 5,000 homes burnt. 7,000. 7,000 structures. Yeah, 7,000 homes, whatever it is. Why are you the guy? that comes out of the fire and says, I'm going to fight and I'm going to do something about it and I'm going to change it. Well, thankfully, I had this experience of already being like a hated media personality. When you put yourself out there, especially when you're fighting machines like Gavin Newsom and his social team, and they're calling you a conspiracy theory and L.A. Times is calling you conspiracy theory because they're saying this is climate change. There's nothing that could happen. Well, guess what? of LA. Guess why? Because of the negligence that caused the Palisades fire. It's moving forward. Discovery's open. So this idea that I was this conspiracy theory, climate change, wind guy, that a normal person would have, oh my God, I'm being attacked by the governor of California on social media. Most people back down. You burn my house down, you burn my parents' house down. [15:00] in the public. You've been a fighter in public. you've got this character that allows you to kind of stand up. You have this capacity and you have a bit of a platform going into it. So it was on. Yeah. And once I got the truth, all the LAFD whistleblowers were coming to me, telling me that they were told to leave the smoldering Lachman fire on January 1st. They told me that Mayor Bass was fighting the battalion chief who's editing the after-action report, obstruction of justice. They're telling me that the chief fought her for that $17 million and warned her that Angelinos would not be safe. So I'm getting all this information, so I don't feel like just this... fringe social media voice. - You're like, man, I'm not crazy. So you fast forward, the campaign's up and running now. Well, let's rewind. So when I see that no one's running against her, I reach out to Rick Caruso. I call him. I say, you're going to run after Mayor Bass because she's going to guarantee win June 2nd, 51%. Totally. And I cannot accept this as a human being at this point. And I call him and he says... Go after bass, implying bass. He's not going after Bass. And so game on. No one else stepping up. He told you to do it. Yes. But I was already doing it, but if he was going to do it, Obviously, I wasn't going to go against... Totally. Yeah. I was like, okay, are you going to do it? Yeah. He said, go after that. So how's the campaign going after this debate this week? And I want to talk about the campaign ads because the ads... have almost elevated you to what I am hearing from a lot of people is almost like a historic campaign. The ads are cutting through and away that people have never seen before. Are those your ads or are they being... produced by a third party and put out there Because I've heard from some folks, there's a guy, Charlie Curran, that might be involved or other folks. that might be separate from your campaign that are putting these out there, they're breaking through the mold that everyone's like, This isn't a political campaign. This is almost emotional. It's a movement People want to like get behind you and they don't even live in LA. So the ad that blew up crazy is when I showed Bass's House, Nithya Rahman's million dollar mansion, multi-million dollar, and then my Airstream. That one broke every ad record in history. That is, if it has my name on it, it's legally mine. Anything like these incredible grassroots ads, if I don't put my name on it, it's legally not mine. So there are people out there doing these ads, not in your campaign, that are creating this movement. people feel the common sense. They feel the emotion that totally it's connecting. I keep trying to tell everyone that, you know, they try to put me in a box. I didn't run for it to be a political party. I didn't run to be a politician. I ran because I experienced what city leadership failure at the ultimate level is. That's why I stepped up. That's what cuts through. So the media and everyone wants to jump on and be like, oh, Spencer's our guy. No, I'm the citizen. I'm the angry taxpayer. that don't love me are communists and socialists, and I don't want them to love me. You know, there was a saying from John Adams, 1776, where he said, public virtue cannot exist in a nation without private virtue, implying that citizenship involves sacrificing your personal interests for the greater public good. And Thomas Jefferson also spoke at length about Taking a turn. providing civic duty. Everyone has a civic responsibility to support society at large, but if you're going to go into government, if you're going to go into politics, you do a tour of duty. It's not a career. It was never meant to be a career. And it's almost like the local, the state and the national level There's an entire industry of people that have built a career in politics. And then you come along, I would think Donald Trump's come along, He's almost like another one of these enigmas that came out that people, it resonated with people. That you're actually standing up and saying, I'm the guy who's on the other side of the problem with all of this. And this is why this needs to change. It seems to be creating a movement. - Yeah, I feel like I connect more with Cincinnati, this guy that was a farmer. - I actually have Cincinnati written down right here. - Oh, that's what I-- - I was gonna mention, I'm like, oh, it's too esoteric. - Oh, no, that's what I connect to, because I'm like, this guy went and fought this battle. They wanted to give him all the power. He's like, no, I wanna go back to my family. And I keep, initially when I ran, I would say, "I want to do my four years," and go back. "I need to do the eight years, lock this in, "get LA the number one city in the world, "then I can go back to my family." So I'm prepared to do the eight, that's my tour of duty. And when people say, "Oh, this is your house, "this heirs to my go, no, that's my forward operating base, "because this is a battle against good and evil." They let seven people die in the street every day, with our billions of tax dollars and they say we need new beds It's a drug problem. 90% of these people are drug addicts. We need to get these people mandatory treatment. Then we can get them beds. And also, they don't have to have a bed on the west side or next to people's houses or [20:00] San Pedro and right next to schools, they can have beds in facilities that we build out. My friend Matt Hess has an incredible facility in Bentonville. He built for veterans. I've been talking with him where he has veterans come here. They have all these services. It's beautiful. I'm like, how do we build this credible compound, beautiful possibilities, I guess, in Italy, some billionaire did this for addicts. That's my vision where we have all this. Take care of people the right way. in a beautiful setting, not in a cement brick building that looks like a prison. An attic, when they're getting off drugs, they don't want to be in a 250 square foot little cell, no service. We put them out in nature. We're spending $25 billion plus. We have enough money where it's actually cheaper to build the most incredible facility out in nature that bring these services, that provide for these addicts. And you separate people. Everybody doesn't go in one building like they do right now. If you're a veteran, you go over here. Single mothers with family's over here. Somebody who's just a hardened criminal drug addict, you go over here on this side of the hill and we need to Build this out and we have the money but guess who doesn't make money if I do that? Then NGOs that are stealing all of our tax money to increase prom, giving these people pipes, giving them needles, giving them the Narcan, letting them OD 14 times a night. Let me just hit on the NGO point. What is the corruption there? Help people understand because a lot of people think this is like a MAGA talking point. I hear this thrown about all the time. People use MAGA. as a term to dismiss when someone says something that is factually jarring to you. I've noticed this. Someone comes along and they point out something, and it's like, oh, that's a MAGA talking point, as a way of just... dismissing it instead of actually listening to what the person is saying. Can you explain what goes on with these NGOs? Like, how do NGOs create a system that the more we spend, and in the last 10 years, City of Los Angeles, I think, has increased homeless spending by 10x, and the homeless population has doubled, and clearly it's gotten a lot worse. Why is that relationship there? And what's the role that the NGOs actually play in this? And I promise not to call you a MAGA guy for telling me. Well, first off, when you said homelessness 2X, homelessness 200X, the count for homelessness, when Mayor Bass in the debate was like, it's down 17% from life. These are the most cooked numbers. Even the Rand Corporation says what they're saying is 30% increase. But they just drive around and go, one, two, three, four, five, six. They're not going in under these encampments and bridges and bushes and unzipping these tents and going into the sewer. So we don't even know the count. with the NGOs after the Palisades Fire. Fire aid, 100 million raised. Every single person I talk to messaging me, "No one's getting this money. No one's seeing a dollar." I go to Washington. I ask senators to investigate this. We open up the case. Now all of a sudden, Fire Aid puts out a legal letter to defend themselves in their own legal letter from the law firm. They say, "Several, several of these NGOs gave directly to fire victims. It's under 10. So even in their defense, they're telling you, and again, I don't believe one of those 10 gave directly. The people that they said did, like, we gave gift cards. Who would you give gift cards to? I don't, you don't think one fire victim, they're messaging me all day long, said, hey, I got a $500 gift card. So that's when I learned firsthand that these NGOs will take right in your face, a hundred million and just steal it. So back to it being a MAGA thing, the person who really exposed the details to me is this incredible Democrat mom, Thank you. Little charity nonprofit because she's now tapped out of her own money in her neighborhood in Westwood. Her and her husband, they're both lawyers. And this homeless person. The housing went up on their block. It was senior citizens. They kicked the senior citizens out and it's Weingart. Their audit is late. Let's put it that way. They're making hundreds of millions of dollars. This is the best part. So the building goes on the market. for $11 million. Six days later, the city with our tax money gives Weingart $29 million, $28 million to buy this same building that was $11 million. There's nobody to this day, years later, being housed in this. Weingart has developers paying $750 a square foot. When I've talked to developers and contractors, it should be $250 a square foot so they make this money with these developer kickbacks. They have all these shell companies that, "Oh, this is our developer, has nothing to Ready for one of my favorite parts? With that $30 million, who do you think owns that building in Westwood? Not the taxpayers, Weingart. So this is the Shelby House. I just went to San Pedro right across the street from a school 600 feet away, right across this beautiful little nice with old people in this community. They're kicking senior citizens out of. [25:00] in San Pedro and they're going to put Harding criminals, same thing. This one's like $80 million. So what they do is they take our tax money, they take grants, they take federal and state grants, and they cook up a little plan. Here's this, we're going to house 80 people. Yet they don't tell... Us that that's seven hundred thousand dollars a person. But everyone's making these people, the NGOs get million dollar salaries. The people below them get 500. Nobody's actually helping anyone because ready for this, there's no requirement to house people. And then in the state of California, this is the craziest part with the home key rules. The state won't give the city a lot of the money if you require the people to be off of drugs. If you say you can't do drugs in this housing, oh, then you can't get access to this money. That's unbelievable. And just to be clear, what an NGO is legally, it's a 501c3 organization. Anyone can set one up. Anyone can file the IRS form, create this entity. Once you've created the entity, you've legally created it. You've got an IRS form, costs a couple hundred bucks to do it. Now, theoretically, someone who might want to be, I don't know, a crony or a criminal, a criminal, as you might call them, whatever you want to call them, they can now use this that aren't necessarily Keeping a good eye on the money. How do the politicians that are allowing it to happen or the bureaucrats in the government that are allowing that to happen, how do they benefit? Because why would they do this? Why would they let this money flow out to these NGOs? in a way that's clearly not in the taxpayer's best interest. Well, you can go the conspiracy route or you can just go, look at all these things we're doing. So there's two ways to look at it. They get to say, "Oh, we have this housing and this services." These people just bring them this easy out like they're trying to fix something while still looking good like, "Oh, that's this NGO. Oh, they, oh, criminal. They got caught. Then you go conspiracy and you can say, "Well, are these people helping campaigns? Are they putting, do they have PACs, so there's money going? Are they helping?" So that's more conspiracy, that's fringe, but in just the sense it's an easy way out. "Oh, we're solving this. We're working on this." Two ways you can look at it. I think they're all criminals. Thankfully, I've talked to the Justice Department sources. City officials are going to go down. They are complicit. Here's the hard part about catching these people. They're literally taking money with poker chips, goods and services. Criminals are smart now. They're not just saying, zell me the money. Right. From my sources, we are going to see actual city officials go down. Not quick enough because they got to frame these people up. But again, how does Spencer stop this when he's mayor? I've met with the criminal investigation team, the IRS six times. First week in office, you bring all of them in. We audit every NGO, every document that hasn't been shredded. Some people, insiders at City Hall have told me, you know, they're shredding these documents. I have more faith in my criminal investigation team. documents, even if they're shredded. But that's what's happening. They're shredding the documents. So let me ask, Karen Bass, A lot of people, you would assume, would feel like she failed the city with the fire. Why is she still able to stay in office? And why is she in the lead in the polls for running for mayor? Why are people still voting for her? She's the lowest... in the history of the polls of an incumbent. So she has 20%. So 80% of LA does not believe that. So the polls are confusing. She's the worst record in the history of the city. So 80% of people do not think she's doing a good job. 20% is crazy bad. That's why Councilwoman Rahman jumped in the race one hour before the closing because she saw I was going to beat Mayor Bass and her DSA team, for people that don't know, Democratic Socialist America that she co-governs with as a city council member. They were like, get in. You can be the fake Democrat and then you'll get in. She endorsed Mayor Bass two weeks before she jumped into the race. They worked together on all these things. Mayor Bass door knocked to get Councilwoman Rahman, who was about to lose her councilwoman's seat, she door knocked with her to get her in and backed her. Nobody backs Mayor Bass and any of the media that's trapped in these lies, they are on. It's not Mayor Bass's fault. It was high winds. It's an unprecedented disaster. It's not true. It's precedent. We had the Bel Air Fire, Mayor Bass was alive for, with the Mandeville Canyon Fire, Mayor Bass was alive for, not unprecedented. So, The polls mean nothing. Everyone that's voting for me is not taking a spam call, first off. They're not talking to a stranger on the street because they already feel so unsafe. They're not letting a rando approach them, period. You know, it's interesting. Both candidates, Rahman and Bass... are, I don't know if Bass is self [30:00] declared socialist, but obviously she spent time with Castro's organization in Cuba, She's a Venser Ramos brigade member. She spent 20 times going to Cuba. So when they say Spencer doesn't have any experience, look he's a reality star in 20. No, I wasn't training with terrorists that would later bomb the capital. That's who Mayor Bass is, who only denounced. Anything communist when they were trying to make her the vice president. But my point is we have like a self-declared socialist mayor in Seattle and now in New York. What is going on in cities? that people are standing up and raising their hand or filing a ballot saying, "I want a socialist to be my mayor." And now we're seeing this kind of emerge on a national basis. I've talked about this a lot. I got my own perspective on it. But like, what do you think is going on with the people on the street as you meet with people, as you get to talk to them? Why do they want that persona? Why do they want that policy, the socialist policy? I don't even think they're aware of it. I think we have such tribal politics that people that are against me just think, oh, he's not with us. It's so gang gang that they don't even realize who they're with and what these people represent. They just think, oh, it's not that group. And that's the problem when you nationalize politics. We should be a city. We should be all together making sure the streets are safe, the lights are on, there's no potholes, the sidewalks are there. But we've gotten to this nationalized politics where they don't even care who they just think oh, they're not that person They're not connected to that party. So also they tell these people we're gonna make things more affordable We're gonna give you free money this idea that that works. I had this guy Rafa he manages a bunch of the Dodgers He's Venezuelan he came up to me at an event recently. He's like I felt like I was in a scene in Braveheart It was so intense like William Wallace in my face big Venezuela, dude and I fought everything for my family and I will not let my kids have this socialism in LA. I know what happened. I was like, I know bro, we're good. Like join the team, you're with me, let's go door knock. But people who know what this idea of giving you money, it does not work. It's this fake lie. What people forget is they can't lower the costs of goods. The only thing you can do to make things more affordable as mayor, which I will be able to do, is put more money in people's pockets. in the city. We're over here, they're always asking me, "How are you going to balance this budget, Spencer? There's going to be no money to do this." We should be the number one city in the world. We should have money shooting out of ATMs. We're Los Angeles. There will be plenty of money when we let the systems work, when we let business work. How can you let business work if you have drug addicts going number two and number one in front of every cafe? We lost over 100 restaurants in LA, not because they weren't good food, because you have drug addicts scaring people to go out. That's why they're Uber Eatsing. They're doing DoorDash. I talked to a mom the other day who works in downtown as a lawyer. I know her because of her friends, her kids are my friend's kids. She said, Spencer, we're not allowed to leave the office building. Our food has to be delivered in. That's why restaurants are closing around downtown LA because the workers that are still trying to work can't go outside of their buildings because it's unsafe. The number one thing in a functioning city that we don't have is safety. If you don't have a safe city, and they'll tell you, Mayor Bass will tell you, Councilwoman Rommelman, crime's down. They'll just say the murder rate's down. Well, that's a national trend. Please don't try to take credit for that. But crime's down because people have given up calling 911. I talked to a guy today at lunch. He said he watched a lady the other day on Wilshire Boulevard, right in front of the federal building, the FBI building, tried to like be Batman hero, jumped out. He's like, stop that. The ladies were so used to her. Like, thank you. They get on the bus and go, he watches this guy get a PVC pipe Start banging on cars. He calls 911 and he's like, they just act like it's no big deal. It's this normal LA. Finally, he starts ripping a bike off of the car. Like off of a bus, he calls that one. He's like, he's ripping the bike. No big deal. Now the guy's coming at him. He says, he's coming after me. And they're like, okay, somebody's coming. Okay. Police come. He's like, arrest this guy. Like, well, nobody's here and there's no witnesses. He's like, arrest this guy. He's arguing with the cops. Every cop I talk to wants to enforce a law, but they can't because the power is behind them. They're not taking any of these citations ready because it's culturally insensitive to cite and ticket someone without an address. or whatever, Cece Daines was head of the animal control or whatever animal services. She said, oh, we can't. The city mayor's office said, culturally insensitive, don't. We can't go after people without addresses. Dude, that's unbelievable. [35:00] Makes me so angry. That's the problem. They keep on calling me the angry white guy. They don't get every race, every gender, however you identify. If you live in LA and you're paying your taxes, you are angry. But most people don't see it. It's the other thing. So like Skid Row, most people aren't there all the time. We host our All-In Summit in downtown LA. It's our last year. We're doing it in September. It's a really big event. But we're not coming back. So most people I know don't get down there. We have people from all over the world, 60 countries, come to our event. They're like, what the hell is this place? We can't be down here. When you see it, you're like, what? - Well, here's the problem. We keep talking about Skid Row in LA. This is all over the valley. This is in Westwood. This is in Hollywood. This is everywhere. Before my house burned down in front of Palisades Elementary School, Cross Street, my son's Methodist Preschool, where I went to preschool, there was a lady cleaning her private parts in front of kids almost every morning at 7.45 a.m. We call LAPD. They come and they go, what? Man, no more. She'd go walk down the street and she'd go number two in front of Joe's Barbershop. So who's coming to the Palisades? It's coming everywhere. This is not a When I went to USC, it was Skid Row. So we had this issue in San Francisco, where I live, and Mayor Lurie came in. I don't know if you followed what he's done. He's an unbelievable guy. old friend of mine and done an incredible job. He arrests people. He puts them in jail, but crime has stopped. Car break-ins are down 87% in the city. 87%. You no longer have hordes of people walking into stores, stealing everything, walking out. As soon as you just enforce the law that's already in place, Boom. You're 90% of the way there. Everything kind of, it doesn't take a miracle. It just takes a will and someone who can actually manage and organize to get this stuff done. Give them the votes. Get them there. So I met with Victor Coleman, who owns most of these studios, a lot of real estate in LA, and he talked to me about Mayor Lurie in San Francisco. He said, "Spencer, when they tell you you have no experience, you just tell them Mayor Lurie didn't have any experience running a city. What he did, he came in and forced the law. He said, "My portfolio in San Francisco is booming again. My portfolio in Los Angeles is booming." It's not doing as well, let's say. And he said, you just need to force the laws that exist. And a lot of people always say this to me. They go, what are you going to do with all these people? A great quote, a famous police chief told me, once you start putting handcuffs on people, watch how many people leave. 100%. This idea that everyone, if you let everyone do drugs and do whatever they want and let the criminals make the outside asylum and with no guards, if you let them do that, they're going to do that. three weeks, signs up across the city, no more nakedness, no more drug use, no more robbing, no more- No more burning dogs in the street. No more dog abuse. Very- on every sign, on every word, so that, and we're gonna go around, we're gonna warn everybody, "Hey, got three more weeks of this. Like, clock's ticking. Just keep telling everyone." Just so the people that are aware, they're like, "Oh, wow, there's a new mayor in town." They may start leaving. And then when the three weeks, or maybe we'll even do two weeks, maybe people will want it faster. And then once we start enforcing laws, Boom, streets will be back. You know who else I'm going to bring in? The CDC, because there's medieval diseases in these encampments. They're not swabbing these encampments. They're not swabbing the streets. People are just living in feces and drug use and dogs burning and body. We need these streets Cleaned. No. - What about the building of the team to execute? You're looking to sit in this executive role. Have you ever had a role where you've overseen tens of thousands of employees before, I'm assuming? Not, I've read your bio, but like, how do you execute, who do you bring in under you that actually knows how to manage the system, manage the people? deliver the message. You can form strategy and set objectives and so on. But walk us through how you're actually going to deliver as mayor operationally when you step in on day one. So the great news about running for mayor of LA, is everyone wants to save LA. Everyone wants LA to be number one. The meetings I'm taking every week now, the lunches, the brunches, the dinners of Beyond successful people that are willing to work for a dollar a year, pause their companies to come in. People are telling me just with algorithms alone they have problems. We can 100x the bureaucracy of the city and building and development. When I'm mayor, there's so many cranes in the city because we're going to be rebuilding. The amount of money... Just last week, I probably met with 10 billionaires that are ready to come in and build LA up to be the number one city in the world. So when they say, "Oh, you have no experience?" Well, what I do have is humility. I'm humble. I know I've never ran the second largest city. I know smart people who have done it. We need to be bringing in the CEOs that have ran the biggest corporations in the world to come in and work with, you know, because they'll tell you, "No, you need to know the city at a certain level." You bring those people in, but the people that execute [40:00] The multi-billion, like they say, they say, oh my gosh, Spencer, this is a $15 billion budget. Well, there's people I'm meeting with that have $50 billion budgets. that are going up, that go up. So these people exist that I will surround myself with. I already have a deputy mayor that I can't say because of fear of retaliation in the city of L.A., They will make sure the most important thing we do, because all this talk doesn't work if you don't enforce the law. So I have a deputy mayor that will help me enforce the law. And that's the priority. When we enforce the law, now all these creative ideas on execution work. But if you don't enforce the law, Mayor Bass could bring in all the same people I'm meeting with, but she won't enforce the law. Councilwoman Rahman can bring all the same people that I'm meeting with. It won't work if you don't enforce the law. for all the moms, the kids, the dads, everyone that just wants to be a normal human being, just pays their taxes, goes to the park, go to dinner. So until you do that part, all this, who's going to be this is irrelevant, but the list of people. I'm sure, because I hear it from a lot of executives I'm friends with. They're like, man, this... message resonates. People want to get involved. They want to step up. Like I said, people not from LA want to step up. Outside of keeping the streets safe, outside of building a reasonable fire suppression infrastructure, getting back to basics, what about education? We have young kids. LAUSD spends $23,000 per student, $101,000 average teacher salary. It's number one in the country. But LAUSD, as a school district ranks 170th in the state of California. And only 46% of students are meeting or exceeding standards in English, 37% in math. What is there to do about education in the city to give all of the next generation the opportunity to progress, to realize their potential, and to not fall into the traps of socialism and communism because they're despondent and they don't have opportunity in front of them? How do we get that generation to succeed? Well, from my own experience with my son who was in LAUSD, and it was even a charter with pals, this is supposed to be the best version at all times. Every parent is just trying to fundraise, fundraise for books, for learning, for an extra teacher. And I was like, what is going on? If I'm going to spend this much money, I'm going to put my kid in a private school. How are these schools? So first off, we got to back to auditing. The biggest issue I've learned with the city of LA, whether it's the school systems, everyone needs to be audited. Where is all this money going to, first off, at the fire department, the police department, the waste of this taxpayer money? So let's figure out first out where the money's going because if it's cost this much for each student, yet as a dad, I'm trying to always donate, have fundraisers. We gotta track the money. And that's another thing that when we talk about what's Mayor Pratt, it's accountability and transparency. Every dollar of tax money in the city of L.A. needs to be on everything. very easy, cliff notes level dashboards, so we can track and get results of where all our tax money is going. But back to how we make kids No, socialism and communism doesn't work is we give their parents hope again and we make the parents demand I have kids I have parents right now that are pulling their kids out of a school, public school, that my kids are in right now because of that messaging. There's no more Pledge of Allegiance. There's no more America's good. We just need to go back to... having pride in being Americans. We've gotten so far off of just America's awesome because everyone's fighting with political and it's like, "Oh, American flag is like, you can't put that up." We need to get back to the basics of where our grandparents were when they were fighting World War II and had pride in being Americans. But to me, it's the money. Where's the money going? If you want things to be better, We've got to stop wasting money. The fire stations that I meet with, they're charging $250,000 for doors, $50,000 for refrigerators. Tracking money. is the source of all of this. I have a buddy. His house burnt down, unfortunately, as well. So I was like, hey, I'm going to meet with Spencer Pratt. Any questions? He said... What about this stupid ass $3 billion expansion of the Convention Center? My favorite part about the Convention Center is like a month ago, less than a month ago, it's just a dead body in the bushes in front of the Convention Center. So the idea that we're going to put billions of dollars into something that has dead bodies in the bushes in front, why aren't we putting the billions of dollars to getting the dead bodies from stopping to be on the streets every day. But I don't want to say Initially, I was like, stop that. But now I'm in this like... LA's got to be the number one city in the world. So maybe we don't need to use LA money, but let's do private partnership. Who's going to come in with money to do something right now we can't afford? But I don't want to be the one now that's like, we don't want to stop building. I actually like the idea of having a convention city because the LA that I'm about to build, when I destroy 40 blocks of drugs. [45:00] Now zombies that are taking all these empty buildings, so much business and commerce is going to come in, we're probably going to need that convention center. Currently there makes no sense. With the current administration, Mayor Bass is elected, it's the dumbest thing you ever heard. If Councilwoman Rahman is elected, it's the dumbest thing. Mayor Pratt goes in and we're putting billions of dollars of money back in LA, restaurants are back, we're probably going to need that convention center. Initially, when I was first fighting this fight, my message was, let's get back to LA. I grew up in it. I started taking on this meeting with billionaires ready to give me $500 million. I met with a billionaire, anonymous billionaire, that agreed to be the fun czar. He said, "My family gave $300 million to New York for a project. We'll give you $500 million to bring fun back to Los Angeles. I was like, can I tell people about you? He's like, no, no, I'll be the anonymous czar. This person is for real. So to me, when I hear there's $2 billion, if I make that convention center a little bit more fun, I have a $500 million now that we can make it the fun convention center. And I just cut that. costs and how so yes, Right now, it makes no sense. Have you met with union leaders? No, they all back Mayor Bass. So they're all going to love me because everyone's going to have more revenue. Everyone's going to have jobs. LA's going to ... So when they're like, "You're not going to win because you don't have the unions." I don't need the unions to win, I have the moms. I have the animal lovers. That's more than any union. You can't get that endorsement. Moms across the city of LA, not moms just in the valley, not moms just in San Pedro, not moms in South Central, not moms in East LA, not moms in Boyle Heights, not moms in everywhere moms don't feel safe the city is unsafe no matter what how much crime stats the feeling and unsafe is resonating and my message of i will be the guy that's fighting to get safety back is gonna get me elected and i keep telling you i'm gonna win on june 2nd with 51 of the vote november is there they're fighting for november i win june 2nd but the unions Obviously, people think it's this big issue. You won't when your city is amazing. How are you going to work with them? So you win on June 2nd. All the union leaders call up your deputy mayor, say, I want a meeting with Mayor Pratt. they come into your office one at a time They sit down across the table from you. What's the message? The message is we're going to work with you to make sure you get these benefits that you want, but they need to make sense right now at our trajectory. We're going to get to where what you need to feel comfortable in your city role is great. But there may be a minute here where we got to tighten things up. I'm going to find all these homeless NGO billions that are being laundered, but we need to get excited. Real accounting. Right now, we don't have outside budget advocates that, right? We don't look, if we're increasing a union 10% salary, even though everybody else in the private industry isn't getting increased, we need to have a balance. We need to make sense for all evangelists. We can't have everything just for this small percentage because they're cooking votes. But don't get me wrong, unions. I'm going to make so much money in this city that we're going to have plenty of money that you're paid what you're supposed to be paid. Law enforcement is going to get paid what they're supposed to get paid. We cannot lose law enforcement because they're risk, we're already losing... too many law enforcement, we're losing too many firefighters. So we cannot make it where they don't wanna work. And a lot of the issues where people see these salaries that are so crazy, it's overtime. But if you don't get the hiring up to speed, then you have to pay this crazy, these salaries and overtime. And even that, these people that do get paid, these crazy things you read on Google, those top little, it's a niche amount of people. And they've sacrificed their family. They're working 32 days. These people are crazy. So they've given everything they have to be that firefighter or whatever that's. So again, the unions aren't your enemy. You're gonna find a path to working with them, even though they're not here for you right now. They're worth mayor baths. You're there. They're still hardworking people I meet with I've gone almost I'm going to a lot of fire stations. LAFD union for sure endorses me. They just are scared to do it publicly for retaliation. LAPD. For sure, the members all endorse me. I promise you. The interaction, who's messaging me, who's calling me, who's texting me. The union power. Mayor Bass currently writes their deals, their checks. That's real. I don't judge them for that. It's the system they're in. But the membership... They want to feel safe. Most of the firefighters can't even live in California anymore. 60% of these guys fly in and I say, well, why don't you guys live here? It's not safe for our families. I want them to move back. I want that tax money. One of the other stories about LA over the last decade or two, you know, I grew up here. I have a lot of friends who grew up in Hollywood in the industry. And it's been gutted. There's no business in LA anymore. And that's a huge employer for so many Angelenos working in Hollywood and all of the [50:00] aciliary supporting industries. Do we rebuild Hollywood in LA? Is Hollywood done because of AI and YouTube and independent production and studios don't matter anymore. No one does broadcast. What's the future of Hollywood? Is there a future for Hollywood in LA? And what do you do about it? So when I was 20 years old, I sold the first, the youngest ever, sold the first reality show to Fox as the youngest executive producer ever. And I sold it to Peter Chernin when he was the co-chair at News Corp. It was with David Foster, who's actually hosting my fundraiser on Monday, full circle. Shout out David Foster, legend. But I called Peter Chernin up a few weeks ago. I said, Mr. Chernin, PDC, how do I save LA? It's one of the smartest human beings on earth. He said Spencer as mayor, You... You're not going to be able to change the bigger picture of Hollywood. That's more governor, you know, uncapped. What you can do to really bring back jobs, bring back Hollywood is bring back independent filmmakers, independent production, independent artists. You prioritize the indies. You could have Hollywood booming in a tier that people didn't see coming. And all my friends who haven't given up that are still because I grew up in. In LA, I went to Crossroads. All my friends are creators, they're artists, they're still fighting, they're not giving up. When I talk to them, they've all doubled down on the indie route. When I talk to them, they say, "This is what we need to hear. We want to make this work." And you work with them. Mayor Bass brags about like, "Oh, now you can film at the Griffith Conservatory instead of 70,000, it's 30." No, when I'm mayor, I'm going to help you produce these freaking movies. We're going to have whole blocks and we're going to use the restaurants to keep them alive. And we're going to use the crews. We're going to eat out of there. We're going to use all the city resources to almost be in production with the indies, but making money together. You know, not like a communist or socialist, but in India. Bring the city, enable, give them the support, get rid of these fees, the clearance, make it easy. Right now, like I said in the debate, I talk to producers. If you want to film on the streets of LA, it's so unsafe, you got to pay gang members off to get, we're going to have it so safe that an indie crew can pop out with all their cameras and gear and not think it's stolen. So again, someone like Peter Chernin. I said, "Peter, when I'm mayor, can I keep calling you?" And he's exactly, "I'm always here to make you smarter, Spencer." So these are the type of people, they say, "Oh, you have no experience." These are the people that are going to make LA number one. But that is the future. I mean, everyone is all about independent production. If you work for a big studio or work for Netflix, you're getting paid. cost plus 10%, you're better off producing on your own. There's definitely a flourishing happening. It's just happening everywhere else. It's not happening in LA. And obviously, I've reached out to David Ellison's team. I've reached out to Ted Saranis. I've reached out to everyone because I don't just want to be the indie guy. I want to figure out how I go fight whoever the new governor is. Get uncapped. Get post-production uncapped. Nobody should be going to UK. Nobody should be going to Canada. With respect to these countries, I love you guys. But we're not sending our filmmakers there anymore. So whatever I can do as a mayor, you know, last the other night in the debate, they're like, we're going to do it. He hasn't had 10 years combined. You haven't done anything. these people i will i've been fighting sacramento since my house burned down you give me bodyguards to fight these people trust me we're going to a whole new level of fight so again i don't want to not have studios come back we have all these empty lots i would love big productions to come back but initially as mayor i can fight for indies but don't get me wrong i want hollywood to be top gun a new scheme or a new system being developed. What's your view on what's wrong about transportation in LA? And how much are we wasting on things that don't really matter that we could recoup and reinvest elsewhere? What are those kind of priorities for you? So I just went to the new opening of the D-line today just to troll, to get some Yimby's to yell at me. And the funniest part about transportation to me is, It's a beautiful idea. when there's no human urine, human poop on there, a drug addict's butt hanging out. People forget every single person in LA sends me their photos. I'm now 3-1-1. I see what LA looks like. These people go, "How do you know this information?" My phone, I can't even open it anymore because it's just naked drug addicts. It's the craziest thing you've ever seen. Who cares how many lines that Metro connects to where it could connect to the moon right now. But if drug addicts are smoking fentanyl next to your kid, you're not going to the moon on it. So first off, it's back to safety. We need these the subway, whatever you want to ride. Bicycles aren't even safe. The Yimbees want more bicycle. You couldn't even pay me to get on a bicycle. A drug addict zombie will hit me with a crowbar when I'm riding by. We need to get safety back. And of course, I love these transportation ideas. I hate sitting in traffic, but I've grown up in LA. I'm aware of traffic is a [55:00] So, yes, we need this, but we also need the money for it. We need to build LA up. Right now, I think 15% of the budget goes to the metro, 5% people use it. Again, I feel like if I made it safe, I could get 15% to use it and we could even that out. We got to make sure that nobody's hopping any turnstile. We need to make sure you're paying to be on it so that it's safe people on it. Again, back when I clear downtown LA, you can drive for 40 blocks. When I clear all these empty banded buildings that the drug addicts are burning down and using our firefighter resources and risking their lives, when we clear that all out and one of the most famous architects in the world. He has a crew of like 12 architects. They already did all these designs for these buildings that nobody listened to them. They met with Newsome, they met with Bass. Of course, I'm like, let's do a set me over the decks. We're going to have LA so beautiful. No more of these high density SB 79 prison-like structures. We need to bring Art Deco back. All the architects that moved out of here because it was so hard to build, takes eight years. They're going to be moving back because we're going to speed up building. It's not going to be the most beautiful architecture in the world. I don't want to go to Venice. I don't want to go, go look at Venice. I want to go Venice, downtown LA. I'm going to have a canal. And then the Yimby people, they can have all their bike lanes going through the sky, through tunnels and things. We need to get creative with LA. - Can you address the regulatory and permitting problem with construction and building in the city as mayor? Do you have enough authority to do this? So can you talk a little bit about the actions you would take to unleash this kind of wave of building that you want to see happen, that everyone talks about wanting to see happen in LA, but there just seems to be so many layers of permitting, so many processes, so much approval, but it's statutory. It's written into the law of the city. Do you have the authority as the mayor to actually be able to go in and address that and unleash this without getting these folks that are the assembly people and whatnot to work with you? So I had a lunch today he volunteered to be the new head of LA Building and Safety. I said, "Well, you're the first volunteer of somebody who does this at the highest level for right now in private business for Los Angeles, knows Every lot of the website back to like my team the goal here is to put the whole team listing their bios. He said Spencer We can do this so easily we can fix all these things. I know all the errors because I Private businesses, the ones fighting the city all the time, they know where all the stops. I met with this affordable housing developer, Carlos, on Monday. He said when Mayor Bass announced her initiative, she was going to rush it six months. He's at two and a half years in the permit process. He said, Spencer, "We can fix this so easy and build beautiful affordable housing." He said, "They're getting these tax incentives to build cells for people, cells." He said, "Because they get more incentives to put more people in the building, we need to change that. We need to make it where," he's saying, Two bedroom, a nice two bedroom he can do for $250 a square foot versus $750 a square foot. These other developers are using the tax incentives, charging the city and then putting more bodies in there. So yes, we can do all this stuff when we take these people out. Perfect example, my Airstream. It took weeks to weeks for LADWP to put one wire to my airstream from a pole across the street. That's the cut the red tape town. This is the fastest we're covering. Operationally, you can address that. But all of the permits that are required, design review, electrical- We've got to bring in AI. I know people don't like AI, but even Caruso, he was trying to, initially, he had this whole thing. He put the money up with Steadfast, and he offered this AI program- Auto-approved. It can read it, yeah. Certain zoning situations, out of a bad movie. Some guy comes, he's like, he misses three and he has to do like one check. He's like, Oh, I'll come back and do that. Like it's out of a bad movie. They say it's truly. And if you go to the, nobody's even in these offices, you have to set an appointment. You can't just go into these places. They all work remote because maybe COVID they're still. Yeah. They work three days a week. Don't they? We're in crazy land. So again, all these meetings Spencer, when people say you don't have experience, you tell them, these are people that have multiple companies. They say, I'm never the most experienced person in any of the rooms of my company, but everyone in my company is the most experienced person in what they need to do in that role. And I'm well aware of, I don't know any of this stuff, but I know I want LA to be the number one, safest, most beautiful. How do we get there? Who are you? What's your resume? What's your background? What's your resume? Oh, wow. Okay, come on. Keep in mind. Janice Quinonez, who is the CEO of LADWP, [60:00] who drained two reservoirs leading into a known year of the driest fire weather season took out the water with no plan, no backups, no tankers. She was getting paid $750,000 a year plus her benefits. There are people across the United States running water and power in functioning cities that we can go recruit and say, hey, come to LA. It's going to be safe and clean and we're going to get you a nice place. You take over. People want to live in LA. I'm not trying to give people jobs with respect to Antarctica, Hello? Talent will come here, right? There's people all over the world that are telling me hey We want to make LA the Silicon Valley of the world LA should be the tech center of the world with respect to San Francisco or wherever these people are and Maron County even know where they are wherever you guys are are you're coming you're coming to LA LA is way doper yeah And you're gonna have a beautiful safe place and way more room to build all your tech companies and robots and drones We're going to build them. Pretty nice up there too, but. You know, they don't have the beach. You're going to be able to swim without poop in the water. It's going to be incredible. Well, I grew up in the valley and you go down Ventura Boulevard, it's all strip malls. These are all small businesses that are owned by families. They have been typically for one, two, three generations. Armenian, Persian, Hispanic populations, folks that grew up in the valley. Small business, I think, is the lifeblood of this city. Like it's such an important part of the city. We've never had major corporations that everyone works for. really It's a small business town. How much have you looked at the regulatory permitting, all the nonsense that goes into opening up a nail salon, starting a coffee shop, getting the permits required to open up a new store, and what can be done there to accelerate, to fast track, to enable All these folks, a lot of them first or second generation immigrants that want to come here and build, that want to start businesses, that want to have their own company. How do we get them? Because the complaint is it's just so frigging hard today. It's so expensive. It takes so long. Have you gone through this and figured out what are the things you can just delete and as mayor and what are the things you can just fast track as mayor to make it so much easier for people to start and run small businesses in the city? So, my friend in Venice, his neighbor, just bought the local bodega that's been there forever. And he was telling me they're about to give up. It's been a year. He said, they're not going to be selling alcohol. There's no food. There was just going to be this basic bodega. And the list of things that it's taken in a year is so crazy. They'll make them put in one thing. And then they come in and they say, oh, no, actually that... It's like a maze. We need to just streamline all these things. And what I keep learning, whether it's transportation, sanitation, there's no accountability. People get paid no matter if they're a failure. It's not results based. How many turns a week? Nobody like if you don't get this many permits, for instance, somebody called me yesterday. They go, why is Film LA a nonprofit? which like you need, they have to come to set. I was like, what do you mean? He's like, this should be for profit to incentivize bringing production. So they are getting their activism. We don't care. It's this idea that I'm getting paid no matter what nobody cares. There's no checks and balances mayor is fine as long as she's driving to go to the airport to go to Ghana to have a cocktail party. There's no Buddy that cares. Right. Because I met with this guy Juan from Clean LA who cleans the streets from all the trash. He's from Ecuador. He came over here and he said, "What? "What is this, Spencer? I'm from a third world country. It's so much more beautiful. I can't live here with my family." So he started cleaning trash on his own. And he said, "Well, Juan, What's going on? He said, Spencer, nobody cares. They don't care. He says, I watch these trash truck things. He said, they pick up the trash and it just throws it like out of a meme and it just goes back all the street. He says, they're sleeping in the cars. There's no accountability. There's no responsibility. I said, Juan, well, when I'm mayor, can I hire you? Spencer, I will help run sanitation because it's supposed to be a billion dollars. He goes, I could do it for easily 500 million. So I'm thinking, I just saved $500 million for taxpayers because Juan cares. that care. As mayor, you can probably auto stamp a lot of stuff too, that today they're just delegating down to people who take a long time getting things done that probably... You don't need to spend a lot of time looking at it. Just auto stamp the bodega license and let them run. You really need to have the guy go in and figure out where everything is. This is back to if it meets these criteria, We need to incentivize. Green light. This time. Like here's the auto green light. LA needs to be like annoying how many cranes we see for the next eight years. It needs to look like we're in China where they're building these bridges in like two weeks. We need all these cranes. There's no cranes. I can't even see a crane. My kids probably don't even know what a crane looks like. If one of the other two candidates win, what happens to LA? Well, I will have to move to Bentonville or... I'm done. You know, that's why I'm fighting. You won't get all my stuff [65:00] Sons to grow up in LA. You cannot grow up in LA. You're done. You listen to them at the debate. They're talking about more beds. They don't even accept that L.A. is... in a nightmare. Yes, I love LA. It has the potential to be the greatest place on planet earth. But we need to acknowledge we are in a scary part right now in LA. The lights don't work on the street. They don't fix roads within a year. Every pothole is breaking everyone's tires. You can't get 311 to fix anything. We don't have enough cops to call 911. There's not enough firefighters. Towns burned down. Bel Air is going to burn. Mandeville Canyon, Sunland, Tujunga, you It's guaranteed. And like I said in the debate, I'm going to put these dip sites a mile from everyone's, how they're all going to connect. They're going to connect to private owners swimming pools. I'm going to work with the insurance companies so we can bring insurance back to California first LA because we're going to show them the model. Because if they have these dip sites for these helicopters, we bring in more of these Chinooks that LA County uses to work with the fire hawks that we have with LA City and Cal Fire. We're going to get rid of this ULA. I know I can't do it myself, but I'm going to fight to make sure these communist type things don't ever happen to development so people can sell their properties, build housing. I'm going to stop letting these. Tenants, being squatters, criminals, make it so landlords have to pay them 50 grand cash to leave and then they go to a new landlord. I'm going to stop the Section 8 scam so that real people that deserve Section 8 get it. Veterans, families that need it, not just drug dealing criminals that are abusing the system with fraud. But yet, if I lose. We're done. I'm trying to tell people, this is like out of a movie. This is Independence Day. The aliens have attacked. They got, it's an invasion is here. And then as mayor, I have to fight all these DSA city council members, make sure they're never reelected. So not only do I have to do all that, but I got to fight to make sure that my next four years, there's never a DSA fake Democrat. They're not Democrats. Democrats love Spencer Pratt. All my friends are Democrats. All my supporters are Democrats. They use the word Democrat in front of the word socialist. Go look at the Democratic Socialist America's website, people. Go look at it. That's not a Democrat. Bill Clinton was a Democrat. He's not an American. Thank you. It's even worse. These aren't even Americans. And when you say that, people are like, oh my God. This country was founded... Because people fled tyranny in Europe and then everywhere else in the world. And this was the bastion where you could find hope and an opportunity to be free. to choose how you want to behave, what you want to do, how you want to pray. to have freedom that the government doesn't tell you what to do and how to do it. And that tyranny existed all over the world. And that's why this country was started. And socialism is the most tyrannical form, the most tyrannical system that humans have ever come up with. And so you got the word socialist in there, you've already made the mistake because you've revealed yourself. My opinion. Sorry, I had to rant on my own show, but I took advantage of the opportunity. I have very smart friends that are from L.A., and I say they're DSA. They got foot soldiers, and they go, what's a DSA? So it's a sneak attack. It's like Ninja Turtles. They're in the sewers. They're like Shredder and Company. Fast forward eight years. You've been mayor for eight years. I'm going to give you – it's a four-year term, right? Two terms. Two terms. You're sitting down with your sons and they're saying, "Dad, what did you do to save LA?" What do you tell them? Tell me about that journey in retrospect. I would say, thank God people voted for laws, sons, and I enforced the laws that are there. I did what everyone did before the current leadership. So I keep telling people the experience I don't need to invent anything. I don't need to come up with this utopia of how a city works. You make a city safe and people will put money into it. They'll want to live here. Commerce comes back. Families will be able to go to parks and go to the beach and not live in fear. So to my sons, again, I'm showing them you can fight evil. These people are evil that let every innocent person that pays their taxes feel unsafe on their streets that they pay taxes for. A lot of people don't have money to do things because they pay all their taxes like me. And then the city and the government fails them. a drug addict in front of your kids causing trauma. There's people having Literal drug addicts having sex on meth in front of kids. Parents are telling me they have to have their kids glued to an iPad in the backseat of their cars, driving them to school. Some parents don't have cars. In other communities, they have to walk under these underpasses and walk past this. So I'll be able to tell my sons, Thank God America has laws. And your dad said, "Hey, breaking news, let's enforce them." And we did it. [70:00] it worked and then people came in with tons of money and we got businesses booming, more jobs. Hollywood, we're making even better movies than we've made in 10 years because the independent creative artists are inspired again. They're feeling supported. The vision is so real, and that's my fight. I go back to if God is burning somebody's house down to fight these people, you're burning my house down and then you burn my mom's house down and you have me listening to my crying mom every day for 18 months. I don't do this to be a politician. I do this to fight evil. And this is evil that has taken this beautiful city that I loved. I didn't even want to travel to go visit my wife's family in Colorado because I'm like, can they come to LA? That's how much I'm a LA person. These people that I'm running against aren't even LA people. So I'll tell them the law, son. Spencer Pratt, thank you for joining me on the All In Interview. Thank you. What a blast. That was awesome. Thank you. I'm going All In.