Hohn Dumps Microsoft as Fund Managers Adjust Stakes

基金经理调整持仓，Hohn清仓微软 出于对AI去中介化风险的担忧，Hohn清仓微软并转投Alphabet，与此同时顶级基金经理在具有高护城河的优质复利型企业集中投资组合中重新调配数十亿美元资金。 Joseph Carlson分析了顶级对冲基金经理最新的13F监管文件，将Dev Kantesaria因客户赎回而被迫减仓，与Chris Hohn因担忧AI去中介化风险而大幅清仓微软转投Alphabet进行了对比。节目探讨了机构对Uber、ASML和Meta等复利型企业的高确信度增持，指出Bill Ackman和Pat Dorsey等投资者如何利用市场错配获利。Carlson还审视了Meta在加州面临的具有里程碑意义的青少年安全诉讼，认为这种关乎生死存亡的恐慌被过度夸大，类似于2018年剑桥分析事件的恐慌，并预计最终会达成可承受的财务和解，而非遭受毁灭性的结构性强制监管。该环节最后以一段幽默的“每周翻车事件”收尾，详细讲述了一名原告试图用隐藏的白色文字提示注入来操纵法院系统的拙劣尝试。 Dev Kantesaria旗下的Valley Forge Capital在经历长达18个月的业绩低迷期中，削减了FICO、Mastercard、Visa和S&P Global的核心仓位以应对客户赎回，但对年内迄今上涨62%的ASML则完全未做减持。 (3:28) Sir Chris Hohn的TCI Fund因担忧Claude等AI模型可能打破Office工作流的中介地位，彻底清仓了其持有的17%微软仓位，并将资金轮动至Alphabet，同时新建仓了Martin Marietta Materials。 (11:21) Bill Ackman旗下的Pershing Square在科技股交易中采取了反向操作，将微软持仓增加10%，将Meta持仓增加20%，建立了约5%的Netflix头寸，并将Uber增持为其第一大重仓股，占比达12.72%。 (15:08) Meta在加州面临具有里程碑意义的诉讼审判，被称为社交媒体的“大烟草时刻”，不过由于18岁以下用户仅占活跃用户的2%至4%且带来的直接广告收入微乎其微，其实际财务风险有所减缓。 (22:55)

Analyzing recent 13F regulatory filings, Joseph Carlson evaluates how prominent hedge fund managers balance portfolio concentration, correlated macroeconomic risks, and diverging theses on artificial intelligence disruption. Correlated Macro Risks and Forced Liquidations (1:44) Dev Kantesaria's Valley Forge Capital, which manages over $3 billion with a policy of holding zero cash reserves, faced its longest historical underperformance streak at 18 months. Carlson attributes Kantesaria's recent selling spree—trimming Mastercard by 28%, Visa by 22%, FICO, and S&P Global, while leaving Moody's untouched—to involuntary client redemptions that forced the liquidation of high-quality holdings at depressed valuations. Carlson critiques Valley Forge's portfolio construction for concentrating heavily in correlated macroeconomic risks. Because FICO, credit raters, and payment rails all depend on lending activity, interest rates, and debt issuance, the entire portfolio declined simultaneously. By contrast, Kantesaria kept ASML untouched despite a 62% year-to-date gain, preserving the sole asset that decoupled from financial sector headwinds. Big Tech Divide: Disintermediation Versus Opportunistic Value (11:21) Institutional investors showed sharp divergence over generative AI's impact on software moats. Sir Chris Hohn of TCI Fund Management ($52.7 billion in assets under management) fully liquidated a 17% position in Microsoft and expanded Alphabet by 12% to an 8% total weighting. Hohn argued that advanced AI models, specifically Anthropic's Claude, threaten to disintermediate Microsoft Office workflows, reducing enterprise pricing power and undermining Azure cloud consumption. Hohn reversed an earlier move out of Alphabet after Google Search demonstrated resilience. Bill Ackman took the opposite side of the trade, trimming Alphabet after earlier gains to boost Pershing Square's Microsoft stake by 10%. While acknowledging Hohn's thesis, Carlson disagrees with abandoning Microsoft, asserting that both Big Tech platforms retain durable competitive advantages. High-Conviction Allocation in Irreplaceable Moats (15:08) Elite managers concentrated capital into businesses with insurmountable structural barriers. Hohn retained heavy allocations in GE Aerospace—insulated by extensive capital requirements, safety testing, and aviation regulations—while establishing a 1.4% watcher position in Martin Marietta Materials for its local aggregate monopolies. Ackman made Uber his largest holding at 12.72% of Pershing Square, citing attractive valuation and double-digit growth, while establishing positions in Netflix (~5%) and S&P Global (5.4%), and expanding Meta by 20%. Pat Dorsey similarly added to Uber, S&P Global, and Meta (+24%), while holding mobile ad-tech firm AppLovin as his second-largest position following 47% trailing twelve-month revenue growth. Dorsey trimmed an outperforming ASML stake, echoing Carlson's strategy. Addressing platform life cycles, Carlson notes that mature aggregators like Booking Holdings face slower expansion and search disintermediation, making earlier-stage mobility networks like Uber and DoorDash more compelling for margin growth. Assessing Meta's Legal Exposure Against Fundamentals (22:55) Meta faces a landmark California trial initiated by 29 state attorneys general over youth safety and consumer protection statutes, an event commentators describe as social media's 'Big Tobacco moment.' Following a $1 billion restitution order in New Mexico, media reports warn of severe operational remedies and algorithmic restructuring. Carlson contends the financial threat is overstated: users under 18 account for only 2% to 4% of Meta's daily active users and generate immaterial direct revenue. Estimating a 90% probability that the case concludes in a monetary settlement and youth-specific guardrails—such as AI age verification and restricted direct messaging—Carlson views a court-mandated overhaul of adult recommendation algorithms as an improbable risk (10% or less), drawing parallels to the 2018 Cambridge Analytica sell-off as an attractive buying window. While 13F disclosures demonstrate institutional agreement on holding capital-efficient, high-moat franchises, managers remain sharply divided over AI disintermediation and portfolio diversification. The key unresolved question is whether generative AI interfaces will genuinely erode enterprise software pricing power or if dominant tech incumbents will absorb these technologies without impairing cash flows.

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[0:00] In every major category of sport, we're [0:02] always looking at the best and analyzing [0:04] what they do and why are they so good at [0:06] it. With Steph Curry, we're just wowed [0:09] of how good he is at shooting [0:10] three-point shots and fader shots. We're [0:12] looking at LeBron James and his physical [0:14] dominance over the court. With golf, [0:16] we're looking at Scottie Scheffler and [0:18] his ability to consistently drive it on [0:19] the green or sink putts that are 20 ft [0:22] out. When we watch the World Cup, we're [0:24] wowed at Messi's ball control. How do [0:26] these professionals do it? [0:28] Now, unfortunately, in the category of [0:31] sports, most of us are not able to [0:33] replicate the success of these [0:34] professionals. They possess inherent [0:36] abilities and skills that aren't easily [0:39] transferable from one person to the [0:40] next. They are elite athletes. In the [0:44] world of finance, we have a unique [0:45] advantage. We can actually copy them and [0:48] we can do it successfully. Not only can [0:50] we learn and observe from their [0:51] decision-making and judgment, but we can [0:53] directly benefit from it. And this is [0:55] where the 13F filings come into play. [0:57] The 13F filing is a legal requirement [0:59] that anybody managing over a hundred [1:01] million dollars needs to disclose what [1:03] they've been doing with their [1:04] portfolios. And they do that every three [1:06] months. A lot of investors have made [1:08] aggressive changes, lots of buys and [1:11] some big sells over just the past [1:13] quarter. So, we have a lot to get into [1:14] in this episode, plus we have a lot of [1:16] news. For example, we have some big news [1:18] for Meta and it's not good news for the [1:20] company. Meta faces quote "Astronomical [1:23] consequences" as legal fight reaches [1:26] critical moments in California. We'll be [1:29] diving into this news, breaking it down, [1:31] and I'll be giving you what I believe [1:32] investors should really be focused on. [1:34] And then of course, we have today's fail [1:35] of the week, which in this case is a guy [1:38] that tried to trick a court by injecting [1:40] a message into AI. We're going to be [1:42] looking at all the details. Now, let's [1:44] go ahead and jump right into the super [1:45] investors and we'll kick things off with [1:47] Valley Forge Capital, which is led by [1:49] Dev Kantesaria. He's an investor that I [1:51] really admire because of his strict [1:53] discipline and his investing philosophy. [1:55] He is a compounding machine investor. He [1:57] buys a highly concentrated portfolio of [2:00] incredibly high quality companies. He [2:02] focuses on companies as he describes [2:04] them as ones that have incredible [2:06] efficiency, meaning that they don't need [2:08] to reinvest a lot into their own [2:10] business to get high returns. These are [2:12] companies like FICO or MasterCard or [2:14] Visa or S&P Global. They're many of the [2:16] companies that you've heard about, but [2:18] what's unique about Dev Kantesaria is [2:21] that he has these companies and none [2:23] others. He really is concentrated. He [2:26] really walks the walk. He has the huge [2:28] majority of his portfolio in only a [2:30] handful of companies. And this is not a [2:33] small portfolio, it's over $3 billion. [2:35] Now, Dev Kantesaria had incredible [2:38] performance for quite a streak. For [2:40] 10-year period, he was outperforming [2:41] soundly and his track record is still [2:43] incredibly strong. But over the past [2:46] year and a half, his performance has [2:47] gone down. And Valley Forge Capital [2:50] today has been going through their [2:52] longest streak of underperformance in [2:55] their fund's history. The situation with [2:57] Valley Forge Capital today is that this [2:59] is a hedge fund where their philosophy [3:01] and what's worked in the past is not [3:03] being rewarded in today's market. And [3:06] that's a difficult situation. When you [3:08] have your strategy not being rewarded [3:10] for a year and a half while other people [3:12] are making money, it puts a lot of [3:14] pressure on your hedge fund because [3:16] people invest in you to outperform. When [3:18] you're underperforming the market for [3:20] over a year, that puts immense pressure. [3:23] So, this is a pressure test for Valley [3:25] Forge Capital and we get to see what's [3:27] going on. [3:28] Now, let's go ahead and take a look at [3:30] the activity of their recent trades and [3:32] we'll zoom out a little bit here. I'll [3:34] organize this by the changes in [3:36] portfolio and we can look for the past [3:38] couple of quarters to recognize patterns [3:40] here. [3:41] When I look at this, I'll first look at [3:42] the most recent quarter and what I see [3:45] here is that everything is reduction. [3:47] They only sold. They're also selling [3:49] companies that are at reduced prices. [3:53] These are companies that have gone down [3:54] in price recently, and they're at [3:56] attractive valuations. [3:58] So, immediately when I look at this, it [4:00] becomes abundantly clear that they are [4:03] not selling out of willingness. I don't [4:05] think that Dev Kantesaria or his team [4:07] believe that MasterCard or FICO or S&P [4:09] Global or Visa are sells. [4:12] I believe that they have redemptions. [4:14] Anytime during periods of [4:15] underperformance, there's going to be [4:16] some of your clients, some of your [4:18] customers that say, "Look, I can't go [4:21] through this period of underperformance. [4:22] I need some liquidity. Can you please [4:24] give me back some of my money?" [4:26] And they have to raise that money [4:28] somewhere. Dev has also been on the [4:29] record saying that they hold almost no [4:31] cash. So, if they hold almost no cash, [4:34] and there's a client that wants some of [4:35] their money back, they have to raise [4:37] that money by selling some shares. But, [4:39] I also notice he has not sold the same [4:41] amount from each holding. So, I believe [4:43] that Dev Kantesaria had a list of [4:45] redemptions, people that were pulling [4:46] some money out of his fund. This is [4:48] something that happens frequently. And [4:51] when he got these redemptions, he used [4:52] it as an opportunity to shape his [4:54] portfolio. Now, when I look at the [4:56] reductions that he did, this is where I [4:58] get into some level of disagreement. For [5:00] example, when we look at FICO, I'm okay [5:04] with him reducing FICO. It's a huge [5:05] holding. I think that that was likely an [5:07] intelligent decision. He could pull some [5:09] money out of FICO if he had to. [5:11] But, we also look at S&P Global and [5:13] Moody's. These are the duopoly, the [5:15] credit rating agencies. And he chose to [5:17] reduce S&P Global and not not Moody's. [5:20] I would have done just the opposite. I [5:22] would have reduced uh part of my waiting [5:24] out of Moody's, and I would have kept [5:25] S&P Global. The reason why is because [5:28] right now, Moody's stock is holding up [5:30] better than S&P Global. It's at a higher [5:33] valuation, but I believe he likely [5:34] thinks that Moody's is a higher quality [5:36] company than S&P Global because it has [5:38] more of a concentration into the credit [5:40] rating business. [5:41] So, in any case, I probably would have [5:44] kept a little bit more S&P Global and [5:45] reduced Moody's, but that's not a big [5:47] deal. He also reduced MasterCard and he [5:50] reduced Visa a big amount, 28% and 22% [5:54] respectively. And these ones really [5:56] sting. I hate seeing that he reduced [5:58] MasterCard and Visa last quarter. I hate [6:00] seeing that because the quarter ended [6:02] right before these companies went up. [6:04] The actual quarter of this trade [6:06] happened before this time period right [6:09] here. So, he reduced them at some point [6:11] along here right before the stock went [6:14] upwards. So, unfortunate timing on those [6:16] reductions. Now, notably there's one [6:18] company in his portfolio that he refuses [6:20] to reduce and that is ASML, which is by [6:23] far his best performing holding this [6:25] year. In fact, I believe it's the only [6:27] company that he owns that is in the [6:29] green by any meaningful amount this [6:31] year. The rest of the portfolios in the [6:33] red and overall this has been a a deeply [6:35] red year for Dev Kantesaria. When we [6:37] look at ASML, he started the position in [6:40] Q1 and then he added more to it in Q2. [6:43] So, he's been adding to it this year and [6:45] ASML's up around 62% year-to-date. Even [6:48] though ASML's doing really well and it's [6:49] at a very high valuation, he chose to [6:51] keep it in the portfolio. And I believe [6:53] there's a specific reason why. When I [6:55] look at Dev Kantesaria's portfolio, one [6:58] of my major criticisms for it for a long [7:00] period of time is single concentrated [7:02] risk factors. For example, we have FICO, [7:04] which is a credit company in that [7:06] financial arena. It offers financial [7:09] data and it's a company that's highly [7:11] sensitive to interest rates because as [7:13] interest rates go up, homes become more [7:15] expensive, fewer people need their FICO [7:17] score. We have S&P Global, a credit [7:20] rating business. It's one that's rating [7:22] the debt of companies. The same thing [7:23] with Moodys. These companies are [7:25] duopolies in this category. And again, [7:28] they share very similar mixes of risk. [7:31] They both are financial companies, they [7:33] sell financial data, they are highly [7:35] sensitive to interest rates. Then we [7:37] have MasterCard and Visa, of which the [7:39] risk is a little bit different than S&P [7:42] Global and Moody's, but they're very [7:44] much similar to each other and they're [7:46] also sensitive to all these same [7:48] factors. That's one thing that I don't [7:49] personally like about Dev Kantesaria's [7:51] portfolio is the level of concentration [7:54] of risk factors. I believe that you can [7:56] have a very concentrated portfolio in [7:58] the number of holdings while spreading [8:00] out the risk to different market [8:01] factors. For example, in my portfolio, I [8:04] have MasterCard, which is a credit card [8:05] company, but I don't have Visa. I have [8:08] Meta, which is completely different risk [8:10] factors than MasterCard. I have ASML, [8:12] which is completely different risk [8:13] factors than all these companies. We [8:15] have Google, which has some overlap with [8:17] Meta, but is also very very different. [8:19] S&P Global, Costco, Microsoft, Texas [8:23] Roadhouse, DoorDash and Uber. In the [8:25] story fund, I have other companies that [8:27] are similar. These are entertainment [8:29] companies, digital platform, [8:30] advertising, but the risk factors are [8:32] spread out through all different [8:34] categories. They're not all subject to [8:36] the same credit-based and interest-based [8:38] risks. And I like that my portfolio [8:40] doesn't have the same Achilles' heel. [8:42] So, while Dev will do well if FICO pops [8:44] off or S&P Global and Moody's does well, [8:46] if those three companies don't perform, [8:48] the portfolio's gone. It's just [8:50] completely in the gutter for as long as [8:53] those companies don't do well. And I [8:55] think that's a painful process to go [8:57] through. I believe the reason that he [8:58] refuses to trim ASML at all despite the [9:01] high valuation is because it's the one [9:04] confounding variable in his portfolio. [9:06] ASML doesn't have any of the same risk [9:08] factors of any of these companies. It [9:10] shares none of them. So, I believe he [9:12] likes having that asymmetric risk [9:13] factor. It's one of the only companies [9:15] holding up the portfolio this year and [9:18] preventing it from going deeper in the [9:19] red. So, for me it makes sense of why he [9:21] wouldn't want to take gains on this [9:22] position. Next up, we have Chris Hohn [9:24] from the TCI fund. He's at the top of [9:26] his game. He's considered the best or [9:28] one of the best hedge fund managers in [9:29] the world. He constantly ranks in [9:31] Bloomberg as one of the top performing [9:33] hedge funds of the year and he's not [9:35] only grown his portfolio substantially, [9:37] but he's attracted more assets over [9:38] time. It is now at a staggering 52.7 [9:43] billion dollars. So, we're looking at [9:44] massive amounts of money here, and it's [9:46] concentrated into around 11 stocks. Now, [9:48] there's some international companies [9:50] that he holds that aren't mentioned [9:51] here, but they're very similar. A lot of [9:53] them are airplane suppliers and very [9:55] similar type of companies. When we look [9:57] at Chris Hohn, he is also one that walks [9:59] the walk. He manages, of course, this [10:01] huge sum of money, and then it's in a [10:03] concentrated portfolio of companies that [10:06] he considers as basically having [10:08] impenetrable moats. So, what Chris Hohn [10:11] does on a most fundamental level is he [10:14] looks for companies that have such high [10:15] competitive advantages that whatever [10:17] they own or have created can never be [10:20] replicated by another company. That the [10:22] barriers to entry to remaking what [10:24] they've accomplished is just too high. [10:26] GE Aerospace is one of them. I did a [10:29] deep dive special on this company, but [10:31] the more that you learn about it, the [10:32] more that you realize there's no one [10:33] even close these type of plane engines. [10:36] They're just too difficult. They're too [10:38] big, they're too expensive, there's too [10:39] much science behind them. It requires [10:41] too much capex, too much testing, too [10:43] much red tape, too many regulatory [10:45] bodies to go through. It takes decades [10:47] of time to get them approved. The basic [10:49] summary is GE Aerospace has a market [10:52] position for a product that is so [10:54] important. These are the engines on [10:56] commercial airlines. They don't mess [10:58] around with these. Another startup [11:00] company can't chat GPT their way into [11:02] creating aerospace engines. So, when you [11:05] look at this company, the moat is [11:07] virtually impenetrable. The only thing [11:09] that prevents it from growing is if [11:11] airline growth slows down. But as it [11:13] turns out, airlines continue to expand. [11:15] Air travel is becoming more popular. [11:17] They're ordering more planes, which [11:18] means they need more GE engines. [11:21] Now, this is the similar case with all [11:23] of these companies. How do you remake a [11:25] Visa network? Or the Moody's position [11:27] and ratings, or S&P Global? How do you [11:29] remake the railroads that travel all [11:31] across the US, to Canada, to Mexico. The [11:34] burdens of entry to any of these [11:36] companies are so substantial that Chris [11:38] Hohn can afford to put all of this money [11:40] in these positions and sleep well at [11:42] night. Now, even while Chris Hohn [11:44] initially does this deep-level analysis [11:46] and the moat of the company, he's always [11:49] vigilant. He's always looking on the [11:50] outskirts for anything that could [11:52] potentially cause problems with the [11:54] moat. And if he believes there's any [11:56] issues that could damage the moat of one [11:58] of these companies, he sells. He doesn't [12:00] wait. And that's exactly what he did [12:02] with Microsoft. Microsoft is probably [12:05] the single biggest thing that has [12:06] changed in Chris Hohn's portfolio over [12:08] the past quarter and over the past [12:10] number of years. For example, he used to [12:13] have Microsoft as a massive position in [12:15] his portfolio. It It was huge. In fact, [12:18] if we look at overall the history, we [12:20] can look at where Microsoft stood. It [12:22] was his second largest position, 17% of [12:25] the portfolio, and it's gone. It's [12:27] completely vanished. He's completely out [12:29] of it. And interestingly, he [12:31] transitioned from Microsoft to Google. [12:34] So, he believes the moat is going down [12:37] for Microsoft and up for Google. [12:40] Which, if you look back in 2018, he said [12:42] the exact opposite. He actually sold [12:45] Google because he thought the moat was [12:47] being disrupted by ChatGPT and he was [12:49] buying Microsoft. [12:51] Now, of course, Google's moat wasn't [12:53] disrupted. Chris Hohn probably looked at [12:55] the data and he said, "Wow, my concerns [12:56] about ChatGPT did not manifest in the [12:58] numbers. So, Google seems like it still [13:01] has a continued large moat." But he does [13:03] have now concerns about Microsoft. He [13:06] recently said that Microsoft is now [13:08] susceptible to Claude, all the AI [13:11] plugins that can replace or mitigate a [13:13] lot of the office tools. Now, a lot of [13:15] Claude is being used in conjunction or [13:17] with Microsoft Office Suite, but Chris [13:19] Hohn believes that that poses a [13:21] disintermediation risk. He believes that [13:23] Claude could overtake many of the [13:25] responsibilities and suppress the [13:26] pricing power of Microsoft Office. And [13:29] Microsoft Office is the core pillar of [13:31] Microsoft. It's the suite that gets them [13:33] in to all the Fortune 500 companies. [13:36] Now, to a lesser degree, Chris Hohn has [13:37] also expressed that he's concerned about [13:39] Azure. He believes that a lot of Azure [13:42] is reliant on Microsoft Office. So, it's [13:45] kind of like a domino effect. If [13:46] Microsoft Office falls, Azure will [13:48] suffer as a result. As a result, he's [13:51] out of Microsoft and he has Google at a [13:52] combined position of around 8%. He added [13:55] a 12% to his position in the last [13:57] quarter. So, he continues to build [13:59] conviction on Google in this most recent [14:01] quarter. [14:02] Now, when I look at Chris Hohn, I agree [14:04] with some of the concerns to some [14:06] extent. I think that there is some [14:07] pressure on Microsoft with Claude. They [14:09] are dealing with something that is [14:11] interacting with their software and [14:13] certainly transitioning some of the [14:14] value to Claude's interface. [14:16] But, I'm not so concerned about [14:18] Microsoft that I'm going to be selling [14:19] my position. I believe Microsoft still [14:21] remains very wide moat, at least wide [14:23] enough to have as a big position in my [14:25] portfolio. In fact, I become more [14:27] bullish on Microsoft over time. And as [14:29] we look at the trading over the past [14:31] year, this is another unfortunate case [14:33] where Microsoft has made a full recovery [14:35] this year. It's in the green [14:36] year-to-date, and Chris Hohn sold it at [14:39] some period at a lower valuation. Now, [14:41] also during that time he was buying [14:42] Google. Google has already raced up to a [14:44] much larger valuation, and many [14:46] investors have come to the same [14:47] conclusion that Google is still wide [14:49] moat. It's not actually going to be [14:50] disrupted by ChatGPT as much as the [14:52] market had priced in. [14:54] Having said all of that, I believe the [14:56] portfolio still remains incredibly good. [14:58] Whether or not you're flipping the coin [15:00] between Microsoft and Google, they're [15:02] both great. I own both of the companies. [15:04] I'm bullish on both of them. So, I don't [15:05] necessarily have a problem with them [15:07] trading one for the other. He also has [15:09] continued to hold GE Aerospace. Very [15:12] minor changes to that position. He [15:14] continues to build conviction in Visa [15:17] and S&P Global. These are massive [15:20] positions already. He's added slightly [15:21] more to each of them, and he maintains [15:23] his large Moody position. He added two [15:25] watcher positions. I call these watcher [15:27] positions because they're at around a [15:28] 1.4% weighting. One of them is Martin [15:31] Marietta. This is MLM. Now, MLM is not [15:33] technically a monopoly, but it is very [15:36] much like a controlling stake or a [15:38] monopoly in many chemicals and materials [15:40] in certain geographical areas. It is [15:42] very difficult to disrupt. So, it makes [15:44] sense that he likes buying these [15:46] physical companies. They're creating [15:47] materials, they're creating chemicals, [15:49] they own a huge market share in certain [15:51] geographical areas. The barriers to [15:53] entry are very difficult to replace [15:54] them. Chris Home remains fantastic, and [15:57] if you're looking for companies that [15:58] aren't necessarily AI companies or tech [16:00] companies or ones that are easily [16:02] disruptable, his portfolio is one to [16:04] study. Now, next up we have Bill Ackman. [16:06] We've already gone over his portfolio to [16:08] some extent, so I'm not going to go over [16:09] the thesis on every company, but this [16:11] has the weighting, so we can see what [16:13] percentage he has in each company and [16:15] which ones in particular he's been [16:16] adding to. Now, the first thing I'll [16:17] mention is he bought a number of new [16:19] companies including Netflix, which is [16:21] almost a 5% share. So, big stake back [16:24] into Netflix. Netflix right now is 50% [16:26] off of its highs. There is a lot of [16:28] fears baked in that I don't believe are [16:30] accurate, and I still hold this one as a [16:32] huge position. I haven't sold any [16:33] Netflix, and in fact, I've added $5,000 [16:36] to it this year. So, I continue to add [16:37] to my position in Netflix as well. He [16:39] also bought big into S&P Global, 5.4%. [16:44] So, huge holding into this one. I think [16:46] another excellent buy for the Ackman [16:48] portfolio. The same thing for Visa and [16:50] MasterCard. Combined, this is a 11% [16:53] position, but we also have more buying [16:55] with Bill Ackman. He bought more Meta, [16:56] added 20% to his stake, raising it to [16:58] 9%. I agree with him here. I think a a [17:01] great buy. He added more to Restaurant [17:04] Brand International. Finally, we get [17:06] further up the holding list for Bill [17:07] Ackman, and we get to companies like [17:09] Amazon. He slightly reduced Amazon. This [17:12] one has done really well, so I believe [17:13] he's taking some gains out of this one [17:15] and simply reallocating it. When we look [17:16] at Microsoft, this is another one that [17:18] he added to recently, another 10%. Bill [17:20] Ackman did the exact opposite trade of [17:22] Chris Hohn. Bill Ackman sold Google at a [17:25] high to buy Microsoft at a low, and that [17:27] was a really good trade in his [17:28] portfolio. So, Microsoft has grown to a [17:30] bigger position. He still has Brookfield [17:33] Corporation, which is in the AI [17:35] business, funding it, doing a lot of the [17:37] big infrastructure projects. And I think [17:39] that he really likes this one as well. I [17:40] don't see it going anywhere. And then [17:42] finally, he added even more to his Uber [17:44] position, making it currently his top [17:47] holding in the portfolio. Currently at [17:49] 12.72%. [17:51] So, I think in terms of business [17:53] quality, growth, and valuation, Bill [17:56] Ackman would say that Uber is the top [17:57] buy today. That would be at least my [17:59] assessment. The only other one that I [18:01] think he would argue for [18:03] would likely be Meta. He's been adding [18:05] to that one even more aggressively, and [18:07] it's not that much smaller than Uber, [18:09] especially for how new of a position it [18:11] is. So, I believe if Bill Ackman was to [18:13] tell you to buy two companies, it would [18:14] be Uber and Meta, which I agree with [18:16] both. I've been buying both of these [18:17] companies. Now, next we have Pat Dorsey, [18:19] whose portfolio I believe has been on a [18:21] winning streak. He manages $1.5 billion. [18:24] He's been buying up companies as he's [18:26] getting more funds. More investors are [18:28] attracted to what Pat Dorsey has been [18:30] doing. [18:31] First of all, he has a massive winner, [18:32] which is ASML. As much as I love the [18:34] qualities behind ASML, I believe the [18:36] valuation is very stretched today, and [18:38] so I've actually been trimming a little [18:40] bit of my position, despite the fact [18:42] it's been one of my best performers over [18:44] the past 2 years. So, he has ASML as a [18:46] big winner, and likewise, he's also [18:49] reduced his position a little. That's [18:50] smart. I think he played this one very [18:52] smart. If we look at his history of [18:54] ASML, he was buying it at $600, $800, [18:58] $900, $1,000. Great buys. This is great [19:02] trading. I I love seeing this. At the [19:04] same point in my channel, I was buying [19:06] the stock. I have buys at 660. I have a [19:08] lot of buys in between here at around [19:10] $700 per share. That's where I bought [19:12] the majority of my stake. So, I'm right [19:14] there with Pat Dorsey on this one. I [19:16] think it's amazing. He added the [19:18] majority of his position and bought more [19:19] of it right around these price points. [19:21] So, excellent trading here. I I love [19:24] everything about this trading. Buying [19:25] before the market gets a hold of the [19:27] story. While the market was concerned [19:29] about the tariffs or different problems, [19:32] he was buying the stock. The only thing [19:34] that I have a slight criticism for is I [19:36] think he did his first trim just a tad [19:38] too early. I also thought, "Wow, I'm at [19:40] $1,300 per share. I've doubled my [19:42] initial price on this company." But, I [19:45] realized it had so much momentum that I [19:47] just wanted to let it ride for a little [19:48] bit longer. I think it's the smart thing [19:50] to do. When a stock has this much good [19:53] sentiment behind it, they travel up a [19:54] lot further than you'd think. So, you [19:57] can be very slow to take gains in stocks [19:59] like this. And it traveled up from [20:01] $1,300 per share up to around 2,000. [20:04] Fantastic handling of this top position [20:07] and this top performer. Apple oven is [20:09] his second largest position. He added [20:11] meaningfully to it over the past 3 [20:12] months. And this is one that has [20:14] outstanding growth. It's one that helps [20:16] different companies monetize and [20:18] advertise, especially on mobile. They've [20:20] carved out a very good market position [20:22] for themselves there. So, it's the type [20:23] of one that you're going to see it trade [20:24] around with a lot more volatility. It's [20:26] growing 47% year over year on a trailing [20:29] 12-month basis. The next one that we're [20:31] looking at here is called Royalty [20:32] Pharma. Look at the price chart of this [20:34] company. It almost looks made up. It's [20:36] just going at a 45° angle up and to the [20:39] right. That's the type of price chart [20:41] that you would look at and you'd think, [20:43] "Man, this looks like it's a scam. It [20:44] almost looks too good." So, he's likely [20:46] riding a lot of momentum with that [20:48] company. He also built up Booking to a [20:50] large position. Now, I'm very familiar [20:52] with Booking Holdings. I believe it's [20:53] one of the highest quality companies in [20:54] the world. I did analysis on it to find [20:56] that it was a very capital efficient, [20:58] super profitable company that benefited [21:00] as travel continues to grow around the [21:02] globe. It went up in stock prices. They [21:05] do a ton of buybacks. [21:06] And I made good gains on this one in a [21:08] couple of years. I took profits from it. [21:11] I removed the position to concentrate my [21:12] portfolio. And I made a decision to go [21:15] from Booking Holdings, which is a [21:16] vacation aggregator, to move into [21:19] DoorDash and Uber, which are travel and [21:22] ride-sharing and delivery aggregators. [21:24] The reason why is while Booking Holdings [21:26] is really good, and it's more mature, [21:27] more profitable, I believe Uber and [21:29] DoorDash are more early in their [21:31] respective journeys. So, they're just a [21:33] bit earlier in the arc of making these [21:36] big aggregation platforms. Booking's [21:38] already won the game, and it's already [21:39] towards the end. Now, having said that, [21:41] I think it's a great company. It does [21:43] have some minor disruption risk with [21:45] Google. There's some disintermediation [21:47] risk. But, it just has such a big [21:49] back-end, such a big infrastructure, [21:51] that I don't believe that's going to [21:52] happen. So, I understand the buying [21:54] Booking here. I like it. I think it's a [21:56] great company. I also like SB Global, of [21:58] course. He also bought Uber [21:59] Technologies. You can see a lot of these [22:01] investors are thinking alike. They want [22:03] to buy these big digital networks as the [22:06] stock price goes down. They dive in when [22:08] the market's not giving them their [22:10] credit. And Pat Dorsey has been very [22:12] good at this over the past couple of [22:13] years. He did this with Meta as well, [22:15] and he continues to pour more money into [22:18] Meta, increasing the position size by [22:20] 24%. These are great trades. I really [22:23] like what Pat Dorsey has been doing. So, [22:24] overall, you see the actions of these [22:26] super investors where they're piling [22:27] into some of the highest quality [22:29] companies that have temporary discounts [22:31] and dislocations from their intrinsic [22:33] value. And I believe that this is where [22:35] they separate themselves from most [22:36] investors. They typically don't panic. [22:38] They buy companies that are high [22:40] quality. They don't look for speculative [22:42] bets and things that they don't know how [22:44] it will turn out. And they stick with [22:45] that plan even when it gets difficult. [22:47] You're seeing investors like Chris Hohn, [22:49] like Dev Kantesaria, like Bill Ackman, [22:52] all exercise discipline in that [22:53] strategy. [22:55] Now, moving on, we get to some big news [22:57] about Meta. And it's not the news that [22:59] you want if you're a Meta investor like [23:00] me. Today, all across the Wall Street [23:02] Journal, all across Bloomberg and CNBC, [23:05] we have headlines like this being [23:07] plastered. Meta faces astronomical [23:09] consequences as legal fight reaches [23:11] critical moment in California. The jury [23:13] was seated last week in Oakland's [23:15] federal courthouse. The trial involves a [23:17] coalition of 29 state attorney generals [23:19] in a unified case against Meta that was [23:21] brought in 2023. It'll be argued by [23:23] lawyers representing California, [23:25] Colorado, New Jersey, Kentucky, and so [23:28] on. The stakes are enormous as leading [23:30] government officials across the country [23:32] push for Meta to be held accountable for [23:34] allegedly violating federal and state [23:37] laws including children's online privacy [23:39] protection acts, COPPA, uh the various [23:42] consumer protection statutes, and so on. [23:45] Industry experts are calling it social [23:46] media's big tobacco moment with Meta as [23:49] the centerpiece. [23:50] In the 1990s, tobacco companies were [23:52] forced to pay billions of dollars for [23:54] misleading the public about safety and [23:56] potential harms. And their products [23:58] subsequently, their power and influence [24:00] dramatically diminished. Do you see the [24:02] narrative being painted here? [24:04] First of all, Meta is being accused of [24:06] heinous crimes. Crimes against children, [24:10] which no one ever wants to defend. If [24:12] someone accuses anybody of a crime [24:13] against children or anything like that, [24:16] you can't defend it even if there is a [24:18] sound defense, even if there's a [24:19] reasonable explanation, it's just bad to [24:22] defend it in general. After all, you're [24:23] arguing against crimes against children. [24:26] So, that's one aspect of the dynamic [24:28] here. This is not aimed at adult users [24:31] of Meta, it's aimed at children. The [24:32] other aspect is the branding of it. It's [24:35] a big tobacco moment. The big tobacco [24:37] moment was when tobacco's product was [24:39] considered no longer safe, but in fact [24:41] being very dangerous and harmful. At its [24:43] core, tobacco harms its users. So, Meta [24:46] is now being viewed the same way with [24:48] the same branding. Earlier this month, [24:50] Meta lost a case in New Mexico that will [24:53] require the company to make changes to [24:54] its service and pay nearly $1 billion. [24:57] But California carries such power and [24:59] influence that a bad result in Meta's [25:01] home state could lead to much steeper [25:03] penalties, including a broader overhaul [25:06] that forces fundamental fundamental [25:08] alterations to the algorithm. Now, [25:10] during time periods like this, [25:11] specifically when there is enormous [25:13] amounts of bad news, big headlines, huge [25:15] accusations, things that sound heinous [25:18] or sound incredibly bad for my company, [25:20] that's the time period where investors [25:22] should be the most focused, the most [25:23] grounded, the most level-headed and look [25:26] at things from first principles of how [25:28] this can actually affect the company. [25:30] Because in many cases, what people do is [25:32] we just get emotional. We look at these [25:33] headlines, you see them as big red [25:35] flags, you react and you make bad [25:37] decisions as a result. So, the first [25:38] important thing to highlight here is [25:40] that almost all of this is regarding [25:41] people that are under 18, children. [25:43] Under 18 demographic of users of Meta [25:46] products makes up a very small minority. [25:48] It's estimated between 2 to 4% of the [25:50] total daily active user base. So, the [25:53] vast majority of users, 90 to 95%, are [25:57] adults using Meta. [25:58] And of those users, the children, 2 to [26:01] 4%, the ad revenue that comes from that [26:04] cohort is also even lower because [26:07] children don't have as much money. It's [26:09] the parents that buy things. So, it's [26:10] not so important that Meta advertises to [26:12] children, it's important that Meta [26:14] advertises to parents of children. [26:17] That's where they get the transactions [26:18] from. [26:19] So, this is also not a cohort that's [26:21] incredibly important in terms of [26:23] advertising dollars. [26:25] Now, there is an argument that they'll [26:26] grow up to be Meta users, but people [26:28] change which social media platforms they [26:30] use all the time as an adult. So, this [26:32] is a small cohort to begin with. [26:34] Now, there's two ways that the court [26:36] will land on this. One of them, which is [26:37] the most likely, is that Meta will [26:39] receive a big fine. They'll navigate to [26:41] a big fine, multiple tens of billions of [26:43] dollars that they'll have to pay out as [26:45] restitution for all the bad deeds that [26:47] they did. That'll be one option. And [26:50] under that, they'll also have to make [26:52] with their children accounts. They'll [26:54] have to make them more locked down and [26:56] more controlled. But Meta has already [26:58] been doing that for some time. For [27:00] example, if we look at just a basic [27:02] timeline of the restrictions and changes [27:04] they've made to different children [27:05] accounts, in 2021, adults generally [27:08] could no longer DM teens who didn't [27:09] follow them. And also 2021, under 16 [27:13] Instagram accounts were defaulted to [27:14] private. Also in 2021, accounts showing [27:17] suspicious or adult behavior stopped [27:19] being shown in teen accounts in explore [27:21] reels and suggested accounts. These are [27:24] all restrictions to make make it more [27:25] safeguarded for for children. In 2022, [27:29] suspicious adults were removed from [27:30] teens, people you may know. Meta tested [27:33] removing the message button entirely. [27:35] In 2023 and 2024, message requests [27:38] became much more restricted. Strangers [27:40] couldn't initially send photos, videos, [27:41] or voice. Also later on, teens defaulted [27:45] to receiving DMs only from people they [27:47] already follow and are connected to. [27:49] Also in 2024, they have enhanced [27:51] warnings about explicit accounts. Also [27:53] later in 2024 and 2025, they launched [27:56] teen accounts with private accounts, [27:58] strict messaging, and content settings, [28:00] and parental permissions. Then we have [28:02] later on in 2025 and 2026, teen accounts [28:05] expanded to Facebook and message. AI age [28:07] detection looks for teenagers lying [28:09] about their age. And we also have AI [28:11] being expanded to detect under 13 [28:14] accounts and deactivate them. Now, the [28:16] reason that I bring all of this up is to [28:17] highlight that this isn't a story of [28:19] Meta not doing anything. They've taken [28:21] clear steps year after year after year, [28:23] numerous steps, making teen accounts and [28:25] children accounts more restricted, more [28:27] guardrails, more parental controls. This [28:30] has been a process over a period of [28:31] time. Now, that doesn't mean that Meta [28:33] did no wrong. I'm not arguing that, and [28:35] I believe that there's going to be a big [28:36] settlement. They'll pay out a big amount [28:38] of money. [28:39] But the bigger question for investors is [28:41] if this will result in huge changes in [28:43] how the algorithm works, and if Meta has [28:45] to restrict their product. If they do [28:48] that, and especially if it has to apply [28:49] to other states, if it has to apply to [28:51] adult accounts, that could change the [28:53] entire game for Meta. I believe the [28:55] probability of that happening is much [28:57] lower. I'd put it in the range of around [28:59] 10%, maybe less. [29:01] But I think it's more than likely [29:02] they're going to pay a huge amount of [29:03] money uh further restrictions on teen [29:06] accounts, and then they might have to [29:07] change some algorithms or some things [29:10] like infinite scroll specifically for [29:12] underage accounts. It's unlikely for the [29:14] judge to rule in the case that Meta [29:16] needs to completely overhaul its [29:18] product, and that it can't use AI [29:20] recommendations, that it can't make its [29:22] algorithm as good as TikTok's or other [29:24] platforms. That doesn't make sense for [29:26] Meta. So, when I look at this, I'm not [29:28] as worried as the market is today, and [29:30] that's why I continue to hold this [29:31] position and continue to buy in. [29:33] The other thing that I'd mention is we [29:35] can look at other scary times in past [29:37] for Meta. For example, we can highlight [29:39] Cambridge Analytica. [29:42] Remember how visceral the headlines were [29:44] from the Cambridge Analytica scandal? [29:46] Everything was going wrong. Every [29:48] advertiser was leaving Meta. Users were [29:51] fleeing the platform. The company was [29:53] part of a big data harvesting scandal. [29:56] Everything, all the most serious [29:58] allegations were against Meta at the [30:00] time. [30:01] There's a news article like this, March [30:03] 20th, 2018. "The UK investigates [30:05] Facebook over data breach to raid [30:07] Cambridge Analytica." [30:09] The stock dropped 7% on the day, the [30:11] lowest it's been in years. [30:13] We have other articles like this, "Wall [30:14] Street starts to trim Facebook targets [30:16] as shares fall. Zuckerberg finally plans [30:18] to speak, called in front of Congress. A [30:21] hurricane flattens Facebook." As [30:23] Cambridge Analytica story broke over the [30:25] weekend, Facebook has struggled to [30:27] formulate a response. From Vanity Fair, [30:29] "Silicon Valley insiders think that [30:31] Facebook will never be the same after [30:32] the Cambridge Analytica scandal." It [30:34] didn't end. There were more and more [30:35] headlines every single day about how big [30:37] and bad Facebook was. "US regulators, [30:40] state attorneys look for answers from [30:42] Facebook. Facebook cuts ties with data [30:44] broker and blow to targeted ads. From [30:46] Time magazine, these companies have cut [30:48] their ties with Facebook amid the [30:50] Cambridge Analytica data scandal. [30:53] Advertisers were fleeing the platform. [30:55] Meta, or then Facebook, was selling at [30:57] $130 per share. That's during the [30:59] Cambridge Analytica scandal. It's now [31:01] selling for around $560 per share. So, [31:04] investors that bought the dip during [31:05] that time period saw around a 400% [31:07] return. There's been some volatility in [31:10] between, but when investors put aside [31:11] all the noise and focus on the likely [31:13] outcome from these type of events, in [31:15] many cases it's the best time to buy. [31:17] Now, moving on, we get to the fail of [31:18] the week, which in this case was an [31:20] individual that tried to trick a court [31:22] with a potential AI injection. So, [31:24] basically what happened here is this guy [31:27] went to court and one of the documents [31:29] that he submitted, he hid text in the [31:32] document. It says, "A state judge in [31:34] Connecticut said the plaintiff in the [31:35] case before him included, {quote} hidden [31:37] text in a court filing meant to serve as [31:40] instructions to any AI system reviewing [31:42] the document." Now, how did he hide the [31:44] text within the document? The court [31:45] identified the text that was, {quote} [31:47] set in tiny point type and colored [31:50] white. So, basically all he did was he [31:52] emailed in a document, then he had [31:54] normal text, normal size document, you [31:56] know, black text on a white background, [31:58] but then for a portion of it in the [32:00] middle of the document, he had around [32:02] three pixel text that was also all [32:04] white, matching the background. So, as [32:06] you're browsing the document, you would [32:07] never come across that text. It just fit [32:09] in with the back background of the [32:11] document, but in it he gave instructions [32:13] to AI. The judge said the plaintiff was [32:15] attempting to use a technique called [32:17] prompt injection to direct any AI system [32:20] reviewing or analyzing the filing to, [32:22] {quote} produce an output only favorable [32:25] to the plaintiff's position and to treat [32:27] prior clerk's ruling as an error to be [32:29] corrected in their favor. [32:31] So, he wrote he put this in tiny text in [32:34] a document. Now, of course, this didn't [32:36] work out like he wanted. The plaintiff [32:38] and Connecticut resident is representing [32:41] himself in this case, and he told [32:42] Reuters that he included the hidden text [32:44] as a way to audit the court's review [32:46] process. In any case, he's calling this [32:48] an audit. He's saying, "Hey, system, [32:50] agree with me and and rule in my favor." [32:52] And then when he's caught, he just says, [32:54] "Oh, I was just auditing the system. I [32:55] was just making sure you were doing your [32:56] job right." I don't think so. I think if [32:59] the the judge ruled in his favor, I [33:01] don't think he would have brought it up. [33:02] I think he would have just been happy [33:04] that he outsmarted the judicial system. [33:07] But in this case, since he's caught, he [33:09] can he can back up and say, "Oh, it was [33:10] just an audit. I was just making sure [33:12] that you guys are doing your jobs, [33:13] making sure that you're keeping track of [33:14] this stuff." Now, of course, the courts [33:16] didn't like this. They believed it was [33:17] evidence of a malicious purpose and [33:19] intent, so it's not helping out his [33:22] case. But this is something that we're [33:23] going to see more and more as time goes [33:25] on. As systems become more reliant on [33:27] AI, the amount of prompt injections, [33:29] hidden text, the amount of of context [33:32] changes that people are going to try to [33:33] do is going to become more meaningful. [33:35] This is just one of the first and [33:37] funniest failed attempts. That's all for [33:39] this episode. Hope you enjoyed. See you [33:40] in the next one.