两家公司的结合背后反映出数据中心互联技术路线的深刻分歧。Marvell 首席执行官正在全力押注共封装光学(CPO)和光纤激光互连,坚信未来连接必须全面走向光学化。当前数据中心互联可以划分为四个层次:
1. **数据中心到数据中心(Data Center to Data Center)**:目前几乎已全面普及光纤连接。
2. **机架到机架(Rack to Rack)**:正在逐步用光纤替换传统线缆,以实现更低延迟和更高带宽,支持响应要求极高的人工智能交互(如语音 AI、智能体 Agent 等)。
3. **芯片到芯片(Chip to Chip)**:随着传输速率极速提升,传统铜线正在逼近物理极限。
4. **芯片内部模块到模块(Intra-Chip)**:未来预计也将采用光连接来突破性能瓶颈。
> “On optics, oh, I try to avoid bright, shiny objects.” —— Broadcom CEO
```mermaid
flowchart TD
accTitle: AI Interconnect Four-Layer Hierarchy
accDescr: Diagram illustrating the four interconnection layers from data centers down to intra-chip, contrasting optics and copper dominance.
subgraph Macro ["Macro Interconnect: Optics Dominated"]
L1["Layer 1: Data Center to Data Center<br/>(Fiber Optics Standard)"]
L2["Layer 2: Rack to Rack<br/>(Transitioning to High-Speed Fiber)"]
end
subgraph Micro ["Micro Interconnect: Battleground"]
L3["Layer 3: Chip to Chip<br/>(Copper Wall vs. Optical Links)"]
L4["Layer 4: Intra-Chip<br/>(Co-Packaged Optics & Silicon Photonics)"]
end
面对铜退光进的争议,英伟达首席执行官黄仁勋有着极具务实风格的表态。Kevin 在引述时提到:“Jensen's quote on all this, by the way, is use copper. When you can't, use optics when you must.” 这种“能用铜就用铜,万不得已才用光”的策略,展示了芯片龙头在成本控制与性能极限之间的权衡艺术。
```mermaid
flowchart LR
accTitle: Off-rack AI Data Center Architecture
accDescr: Storage racks connecting to compute racks through high-speed fiber optics to handle KV cache growth
subgraph StorageRack["Storage Room"]
NAND["NAND SSD Clusters<br/>(Off-rack Storage)"]
end
subgraph ComputeRack["Compute Facility"]
Compute["GPU & ASIC Clusters<br/>(Agentic AI / KV Cache)"]
end
NAND <==>|"Ultra-fast Fiber Optics"| Compute
```
面对软硬件演进带来的剧变,Kevin 警告投资者切忌重仓单一标的,主张在 AI 硬件板块建立广泛分散的底仓,以避免单点暴跌的风险:“I think in this environment, spoiler just between us, okay? Don't tell anyone. Don't tell anyone. Thank you. I think you lean in on hardware, not personalized financial advice, but I think you have to be pretty damn diversified inside it because if you go all in on one of them it could end up pulling a Google on you right.”
尽管并购消息公布后,常规市场反应往往是 Lumentum 股价大涨而 Marvell 股价走低,但 Kevin 明确将这视作千载难逢的建仓良机,直言:“I would buy the Marvell dip on this. Because I want the combined company. Like these are, I'm very happy if this goes through.” 在他看来,度过财务稀释阵痛期后,两家公司制造与设计结合所催生的光通信巨头,将在接下来的 AI 硬件浪潮中具备无与伦比的协同效应。
深入拆解其财务数据可以发现,扣除短期地缘局势因素后,其净营收预期能够实现 1.8 倍增长,毛利润增长更是高达 2.7 倍,这反映出其产品具备极强的市场定价权。与此同时,其运营支出仅小幅上升 14%,整体营业利润率高达 41%。主讲人对这种财务杠杆效益赞不绝口:“Their operating expenses are only up 14%, margins 41%. This is sexy, man.” 至于报表中出现的一笔账面亏损,主讲人明确指出那是由于债务清偿(extinguishment of debt)带来的一次性财务支出,分析时必须剥离此类噪音。在漫谈中,主讲人甚至开起玩笑插科打诨,把日期调侃成悉尼·斯威尼(Sydney Sweeney)的生日,随后迅速收回心神,核对资产负债表中 38 亿美元应收账款等核心资产项目。
视线转向整个光通信产业链的核心原材料提供商康宁(Corning, GLW)。康宁目前手里握有大量供货协议,其当前的 PEG 估值约为 1.39 倍,同样展现出了卓越的定价能力。然而,投资康宁存在一个明显的权衡:它并非纯粹的 AI 光通信概念股。康宁庞大的业务版图中,有一半是缺乏增长动能的传统工业制造与显示玻璃业务,只有另一半光纤光学业务处于强劲的景气周期中。
买入康宁相当于以合理估值买下一整家公司,但其中只有一半资产在享受行业红利。不过,主讲人以戴尔(Dell)作为对比例证指出,戴尔同样只有很小一部分业务直接受益于 AI 服务器繁荣,但其整体股价表现依然十分亮眼,甚至在近期调整后估值变得非常诱人。对于康宁而言,虽然业务纯度不及 Lumentum,但其作为光纤基础设施基石的垄断地位不可小觑。
主讲人剖析道,面对市场的短期波动,Marvell 管理层展现出了极具攻击性的企业家魄力:“Even if we have to tank it in the short term, we want the full stack. We want the laser. We want the CPOs. We've already got the DSPs. We've got the ASICs. We've got the connectivity to get inside of the NVIDIA rack. We almost have everything to be fully vertically integrated.” Marvell 现已手握 DSP(数字信号处理器)、定制 ASIC 设计能力,以及嵌入英伟达生态机架的互连技术,补全 Lumentum 的激光器与光电共封装(CPO)制造能力后,将构建起近乎完美的全栈垂直体系。主讲人盛赞 Marvell 首席执行官敢于冒着执行风险效仿埃隆·马斯克式的大开大合,比作风保守的博通管理层更具远大野心。尽管收购消息传出后,主讲人持仓的 Marvell 短期承压下跌,而曾经看好却错过的 Lumentum 股价大涨,他依然由衷认为这是一场战略上的神来之笔。在 AI 硬件 2.0 周期即将引爆、市场极度便宜的当下,这笔整合交易正是泡沫全面成型前绝佳的逢低布局良机。
```mermaid
flowchart TD
accTitle: Marvell's Full-Stack Optical Integration
accDescr: Flowchart illustrating Marvell's acquisition of Lumentum to achieve full vertical integration across AI optical networking hardware.
[0:00] Broadcom CEO: On optics, oh, I try to avoid bright, shiny objects.
Original transcript
[0:00] Well, on the same day that we get crazy Google earnings, which we already broke down in a separate segment, we just got a mega deal between Mar-Vell and Lumentum, supposedly in the works that could happen as soon as next time. Well, the deal could be announced as soon as next week. Now, this is crazy because you're talking about Marvell, which is a $221 billion company, which Jensen himself has suggested could be the next $1 trillion company. And another company called Lumentum, ticker Lite, L-I-T-E, which is appropriate given that they work on lasers for fiber optics. Get it? Light? Anyway... They are an $83 billion company. This is an insane potential acquisition for Mar-Vell, which does not have the balance sheet to justify this. That's why the stock's going down. And that's why light is going up. So let's understand a little bit of the background here. So the basic gist of what's going on is the Marvell CEO is going all in on co-packaged optics, CPO, and Fiber optics, laser connections, Okay, that's different. from a copper connection. Who's in the copper camp? Jensen says you use copper as... much as you can, because it's way cheaper, right? So think about this as just connecting a few different things, either a data center to a data center. Iraqis. to a rack at the other side of the data center. or inside of the rack, Chip, To a chip. or even inside of a chip, a part of a chip to another part of a chip. Those are four layers that you can connect stuff in. Fiber optics pretty much already handled data center to data center and they're slowly getting to rack to rack. fiber optic cabling to have faster, lower latency connectivity between these data centers, which all becomes much more important when you're working artificial intelligence and you want rapid responses for either customer service or voice AI or agents or whatever, all this stuff is going to get a whole lot more extreme and the investments in all this or just beginning But the point is, Mar-Vell takes the argument that we are going to start seeing... rack to rack basically go all fiber. we are going to see chip to chip GoFiber, And then we're going to see inside of the chip Fiber to fiber because the speeds are going to get so insane that you're going to hit what they call a copper wall. Now, Jensen says use copper as long as you can. It's cheaper, better margins for NVIDIA that way. Broadcom CEO, he says, Look. We'll do lasers... but we like copper. Okay, so Broadcom CEO guy, I actually like him. I think he's a very humble guy. Broadcom, I've got some notes here. Broadcom does 60% of the ASIC market. I'll just show them to you. This is actually in our course member only kind of like research tab. but whatever. Broadcom does 60% of the ASIC market. Meta and Anthropic joined Broadcom in co-development as well. Real competition they see is, you know, NVIDIA. But GPUs are like, your general purpose workhorse. ASIC is very specific. It's in the name. Specific. Application Specific Integrated Circuit. Marvell does only about 15 to 25% of the ASIC marketplace. So Broadcom is the leader over here. And so Marvell is taking a different approach to Broadcom. Broadcom says, look, we'll do copper as long as we can. In fact, we've got some new copper products that can go really fast. We're good for a while. Marvell is like, no, man, we're going to go optics because we think optics are going to be the future proof of the future. Well, that's redundant, but you know what I mean. And that copper is going to get left behind. You know what the Broadcom CEO literally says? He says... So he's asked about fiber optic, right? And this is literally his line. I wrote this down. This is in the course member research tab. Remember, you could be a member, you get lifetime access to this kind of stuff at reinvestone.com. This is just a sample of the stuff that we'll be talking about in the research terminal later this year. But anyway. He writes: on optics, Oh. I try to avoid bright, shiny objects. Obviously, you know, he's being facetious here because hyperoptics are bright and shiny. Anyway, I like the guy. I actually think he's a smart guy. I think the answer is you buy both, right? Like Broadcom and Marvell. Not personalized advice. I have exposure to both of them. full transparency. But Broadcom is used by Google to manufacture the TPUs. Marvell would get some TPU revenue as well. But these are two very big differences between Broadcom and NVIDIA's point of view.
[5:00] and Marvell and Lumentum. Now you might think that makes Nvidia bearish on fiber. No. Nvidia invested $2 billion into... Mar-Vell, and $2 billion into... Lumentum. into both of them, NVIDIA has a collective $4 billion investment. Now that's really interesting. I think what Jensen is doing, he's hedging his bet. hey, let's use copper today. It's good for the margins. But, you know, if fiber works out great, We called it! We invested, and we call Marvell the future $1 trillion company. That would be like a 5X from here. Okay, well that's cool, and they want to obviously ride that wave up, but what do they see? Well, what they see is they're going to set up, NVIDIA is going to set up Marvell to do its best to integrate their products. into NVIDIA ecosystems. So that way NVIDIA and the whole CUDA moat can still be strong, and Marvell doesn't... you know chip away at Nvidia's lead. They're basically saying look, we want everybody to buy our GPUs. This is our ecosystem. Okay, we got the, we got the Ethernet, we got NVLink, we got the Vera CPUs, we got the Rubin GPUs, the Blackwells, whatever we got the whole stack baby, we got switches, you name it, we got Spectrum X, which is a copper based Ethernet, we have it all. You don't need anyone else, says NVIDIA. And then you got Mar-Vell, which is this little squeaky animal, going, yeah, but we're designing all these Asics! You know, all these people are doing custom chips, and, you know, they'd love to be able to integrate them in your NVIDIA system, you know, your NVIDIA ecosystem. And so you might wonder, like, okay, well, what kind of chips are they integrating with? And the answer is a lot of them. Marvell... Does the Tranium XPU, which represents about 15.5% of Mar-Vell's revenue, they do 8.4% of their revenue comes from the, I don't know how to say it, Maya. custom XPU for Microsoft, and then the Axion CPU from Google some of their TPUs as well. And then a custom chip designed with Meta. So Marvell's doing all these deals with Amazon, Microsoft, Google Meta. Those are companies that happen to be blowing a lot of money on AI. And so NVIDIA is kind of like... You got to deal with all those guys? Alright, alright, alright. How about this? we'll create something called NVLink Fusion And you can be one of the few people to use it. We'll open our arms to you, Mar-Val. You can bring your crap into our racks. You want to ride my rack? Just plug into NVLink Fusion and Mar-Vell will be one of the partners. And then Mar-Vell's like, great. We have infiltrated the NVIDIA Rack. This is wonderful. We're deep, boys. We're deep. How can we go deeper? Let's buy the whole damn stack. That's basically what they're saying. By the whole damn stack. Because see, Marvell is a fabulous ASIC manufacturer. So they could design, but they don't actually do everything inside of the rack. So you kind of have to think like there's rack, Then you have cables. These cables can be produced by a company like Corning, which manufactures the glass that goes inside of the fiber optic cabling. And then you have something that injects the light, a device that's shooting the light, right? Lumentum manufactures those. then Mar-Vell does the chips that collector translate... that light data switch-to-switch data. But then Mar-Vell also has... these Custom ASICs. And so Marvell's like, look, we could do the GPU work for you. We could do the Marvell DSP. This is, you know, server to switch. We could do switch to switch, which is our photonics chip. We could then buy Lumentum, which injects the light. The only thing they haven't bought is Corning. which is in that vertical, which is essentially the glass and fiber manufacturer. Now, Corning is a $113 billion company. This is like a 150-year-old company I actually am really excited about Corning. I don't own Corning. I'm also really excited about... and I'm kind of pissed. Because... We've been talking about Lumentum in the course member live streams and I've been talking about how much I like them and how interested I am in them. You know, I'm not convinced I want to buy yet. And so I was a little pansy weenie baby and I didn't buy them yet. And, you know, now they're up 10% because of this acquisition. Of course, you know, whatever. But we've been talking about Lumentum because this whole fiber optic thing, this is just getting started. I think it's still early on this. I know some people are like, "Oh, it's late!" The DSPs are the digital signal processor, by the way. These are like the brain inside of the optical modules for fiber optics in Marvell So, you know, I think that's a good thing.
[10:00] manufacturer. So by buying Lumenta, Marvell would also be buying the manufacturing capabilities that they do not have right now, which is pretty remarkable. So Jensen's quote on all this, by the way, is use copper. When you can't, use optics when you must. Hmm. Kind of an interesting little take there from Jensen. He's always got the little hot takes, right? But I personally think this is very exciting because Marvell... I was also reviewing another Marvell interview. This was a legacy one. But this legacy interview, just to kind of get some insight into where the CEO's head is, he thinks the next... This video is... This sponsor is brought to you by meetkevin.com/silo. Wait a second, points for stocks? You may have heard about our sponsor Silo today. It's basically what Bilt did for rent. But this time... It's for investing. So if you're not familiar with this, here it is. Silo is the first and only investing platform that gives you credit card style points, but on your brokerage account. Every month, they give you points based on your account value. You get an annual multiplier of 0.5x points on your total account value. So if you got $500,000 in an investing account, you'd earn $500,000. 50 bips. That's 250,000 points every single year. Dang, I'm missing out on some points. Points are redeemable for cash. You know, a lot of us are probably thinking that. We're like, man. Wait. What? I want points. What can I do with them? And here you go. Points are redeemable for cash at one cent Per point. or you could use their travel portal to book at 1.3 cents per point depending on your membership tier so here's the big thing they are also now launching their very first transfer partner It may even be live by the time you're seeing this integration. Now, What is really worth noting? is that while I can't yet reveal the airline, as I can say, It is a Star Alliance partner at a one to one transfer rate, which is pretty neat because Star Alliance partners allow you to book flights with 26 different airlines, including United, Turkish, Swift Air, Lufthansa, Singapore Airlines. And so if you're clever with how you redeem and use these points, you could fly around with some, you know, pretty nice seats, business class or even first class, simply because you had your portfolio at silo and they were paying you. basis points on your portfolio. And so with the launch of their very first transfer partner, Silo is officially exiting beta and switching to their long-term points earning rate of 0.25%. in November. But... Anybody who signs up this month locks in those 50 basis points for at least the first year. and you might even get grandfathered in but of course check their program details so if you want to lock in .5x points on your stocks, 50 bips, and earn up to 250,000 points. as a new member, make sure to use my link, meetkevin.com slash... Silo. It's easy. Meet Kevin Alcom/Silo. S-I-L-O, to get started by the end of this. He thinks the next phases of growth are not just moving data. Like, moving data is what they're doing with fiber optics. It's also storing data. And this gets really deep. And I'm sorry, this is like... This is like so niche and nerdy, And I apologize, but I have this belief that First of all, I... How should I put it? I think the next boom... isn't necessarily going to go directly to memory, but a place that got sold off with memory that might recover faster is storage. This sounds crazy, but... Agentic AI uses so much damn KV cash over time and robotics is just going to make this worse, what's going to happen is you're going to need more storage. And eventually you might use a lot of off-rack storage where you have like All the NAND SSD you know, whatever, is over in that room over there. And all the GPUs in the A6 are over here. Well, how are you gonna connect those two things together? How about fiber optics? Fast, baby. See how all these things start? linking together you know, plugging into each other. It's crazy. And I'm not here to say that I can tell you exactly. which company is going to perform the best out of this whole stack. I think in this environment, spoiler just between us, okay? Don't tell anyone. Don't tell anyone. Thank you. I think you lean in on hardware, not personalized financial advice, but I think you have to be pretty damn diversified inside.
[15:00] it because if you go all in on one of them it could end up pulling a google on you right So you diversify amongst these hardware plays and you just bet that the whole damn ship of AI is going everywhere. bump Unless you're a bear, then you do the opposite. But if you're a bear, you're... possibly not even watching. Okay, so let's look at the actual fundamentals a little bit. So the last fundamental that we did on Marvell in the course member live stream was on October 5th. Now remember, all this stuff that we go through, some of it's going to be, well, we're going to have a lot in our research terminal in the future. That's part of what's coming out in the Reinvest One. You pay once, you get lifetime access. But Reinvest Research is coming out. But you also get, if you join our course member live streams, analysis, technical analysis. We'll look at these plays and we'll try to understand, hey, where are the technicals? Where are the fundamentals? What's a buy? And we're just trying to understand more. We're trying to learn more. This is a learning exercise where every day we're trying to expand our knowledge with what the hell is actually going on with artificial intelligence. And there's a lot. So we think we do a really good job of this, but we're going to do an even better job when our research terminal comes out. And the terminal is literally going to have a module on building an agentic AI business or improving your business with agentic AI, being a better consumer with agentic AI. You get the course member live streams, the nine courses, the research terminal, the stock terminal, the homes terminal. Like you get it all in one bundle at reinvestone.com. We think it's a killer deal. And... You really want to join it in 2026. This is going to be like full self-driving where all of a sudden you can't get lifetime access to it anymore after 2026 ends. And then it's going to be like, damn, I wish I got lifetime access. Because I think it's in a year from now, people are going to go, holy crap. That's actually really good. We'll see. It's early. Okay, so this is the Mar-Vell... Statement of operation. So this is our income on Marvell. We have a 36% increase in net revenue. Cost of goods sold actually grew less than that, so their pricing power grew. So we've got strengthening pricing power at Marvell. Very bullish about Marvell's pricing power. I love them. They also divested an automotive business, and they had free cash flow, a free cash flow yield of only about 1.68%, which is $1.6%. On the lower side. But you've got some free cash flow. They did also borrow... And they issued a little bit of stock. So, you know, they're also in this race of, "Hey, we got some building to do here." You can see my note over here I wrote... Broadcom Has some optical ambitions, but Copper Connectivity, they're a Copper Connectivity heavyweight. Marvell leans into CPO. a CPO optics. Okay. Right. I wrote, I think of Mar-Vell as the discount... StepSys to Broadcom. She's a bit more pricey, which is kind of ironic because I actually think Marvell has a higher price than Marvell right now. But I guess what I mean by this is market cap wise. OK, market cap wise, you're talking a 200 billion dollar market cap versus about a trillion dollar market cap at Broadcom. It might even be more than might be like a trillion and a half now. I can't remember. But anyway, that's so when I say it's a discount, the Broadcom valuation is lower than Marvell's. But Mar-Vell is that smaller... up-and-coming step row that's making the bet on optics... And this absorption of light. Damn, it pisses me off. No, it's actually great. I'm actually really bullish Marvell on it. I would buy the Marvell dip on this. Because I want the combined company. Like these are, I'm very happy if this goes through. obviously the Marvell stock is going to go down, Light stock is going to go up. That happens every time there's an acquisition because Marvell doesn't have the money. They do not have $83 billion in cash sitting around. They got like $6 billion in free cash sitting around. So this is going to be debt and shares. It's going to be dilutive. Yeah, Light's going to have some cash on their balance sheet as well, but not much, dude. They got $3.8 billion in bills. And they got 3.4... in cash and receivables. So there's no cash in their $80 billion market cap. So you're going to have to take on debt and stock to do this at Marvell. So yes, Marvell stock goes down in the near term. But this is a behemoth that they are creating. This is delicious. Oh, thank you for the shout-out, per 82, 36. I love Reinvest1 Thanksgiving. Oh, yeah. Appreciate that. So So, Take a look at this. This is what I wrote. Okay. This is what I wrote on September 25th. Oh, 925. That's my crush's birthday. Well, this was my high school crush. I don't know why I still remember her birthday. It just makes Lauren mad. Don't tell her I said that. It's very transparently known. I got rejected by the girl in middle school, okay? I asked her out for pizza, and she said no. And I still haven't forgotten. Anyway, this is a mass
[20:00] Photonics play for artificial intelligence. Mega boom, like, memory has already happened. So there's been this mega boom in light. The stock's actually come down a lot since we did this analysis. And I thought they were a little expensive then. So the last, you know, four weeks, the stock has come down a little bit. So I said at 1.2 peg, there are cheaper options like Broadcom and Marvell are actually cheaper. you know, post the Iran situation. They see the net revenues growing 1.8x and gross profits are up 2.7x. So you're talking massive pricing power here. Their operating expenses are only up 14%, margins 41%. This is sexy, man. Yes, we did have a loss over here. Why did the loss happen? That was because of an extinguishment of debt. So you kind of have to ignore this nonsense over here on the right. It's more one time. That's Sydney Swee's birthday. Was her name Sarah? Nope. Name was Kristen with a Y. Uh, anyway. So, um... Okay, investing activities. and let's see a hundred billion okay okay okay accounts receivable 3.8 billion of bills oh yeah we already covered that this is the financial information assets Yeah, we've already covered that as well. Okay. Let's look at... Let's go into this a little bit more. Okay, so corning has massive supply agreements. Corning's an interesting one too. Let me do a quick valuation check on Corning. uh, Corning is GLW. They're at about a 1.39 peg. Great pricing power. Um, But they have a legacy business in it, right? So half of the business at Corning is eh. And the other half is great for fiber optics. It's just not as pure of a play. So you're really paying a fair price for an entire company when only half of the business is booming. That said, you know, Dell did really well when only a tiny portion of their business is booming. And honestly, Dell has gotten cheap. Dell has gotten a whole lot better. cheaper. So. This is very interesting. Now if I go look a little bit more here right now inside of racks gpu to gpu links are 100 copper But Copper can't scale beyond three meters... at the speeds desired for the next generation clusters. And the more the speed goes up, the more the copper distance that you could cover, like halves. I think they say for every doubling... in speed you want to accomplish, you have the distance that copper can cover. Thank you. And this is why Corning is seen as such a big opportunity in scaling out with fiber. But this is why Mar-Vell is going, F it. Even if we have to tank it in the short term, we want the full stack. We want the laser. We want the CPOs. We've already got the DSPs. We've got the ASICs. We've got the connectivity to get inside of the NVIDIA rack. We almost have everything to be fully vertically integrated. This CEO is going full on Elon on your butt. and I like the guy I think... I think he's... more ambitious than the Broadcom guy. I think the Broadcom guy is more conservative. That does increase execution risk. But I like the guy. I respect the guy. I respect his acquisition. I'm a big fan. Uh, uh, and, and even though the one that I own, Marvell is going down on this and light, the one I wanted to buy, the one that got away is going up on this. I have to say, overall, this is brilliant. Big fan. And this just reiterates the AI boom that is coming. It is just getting started. And you get an Iran deal, man. Come on, baby. Here's Kevin with that Iran deal. But everything flip-flops. And we go towards hardware 2.0 rally. And these valuations that are super cheap now, then you're going to get the euphoric rally. Then people are going to go, holy smokes. That's what a bubble actually looks like. That's my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong. So in the meantime, I'll just play this. Here we go, come on, push it. Find the dip, find the dip. - If you liked that video, check this one out. I think you're gonna love it. - Why not advertise these things that you told us here? I feel like nobody else knows about this. - We'll try a little advertising and see how it goes. - Congratulations, man, you have done so much. People love you, people look up to you. - Kevin Paffer, financial analyst. And YouTuber, Meet Kevin, always great to get your take.